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Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2021
Published: Jan. 24, 2021
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22$81,500,000$78,901,924$0$925,000$2,598,076
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,538,462$7,538,462
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,487,500$1,487,500
C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,166,667$4,166,667
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UFA - 1
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
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$7,538,462$7,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,937,500$3,937,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 2
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 24, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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MN needs Soucy to be an expansion draft eligible d-man.
Jan. 24, 2021 at 5:50 p.m.
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Not sure exactly why, but I just don't like what I've seen of Schmaltz.
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Jan. 24, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
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Not sure exactly why, but I just don't like what I've seen of Schmaltz.


He doesn’t play defense, and we don’t like that. As for the Soucy deal, I find him more valuable than McCann especially when considering his addition probably pushes PIT out of the lottery. You’d really have to tale JR to the cleaner for me to be ok with a Soucy deal. Even though Cole had issues with Sullivan, I find him a much more likely guy to be moved unless BG wants to force Seattle to take a forward.
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Jan. 24, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
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This seems okay actually.
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Jan. 24, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.
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HUGE NO from Pittsburgh. Values are not even in the same ball-park.
Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:16 p.m.
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I like Schmaltz. He scored 11 goals in the shortened season last year. I fully expect he'd be similar or better this year.

With PLD-Laine/Roslovic showing us the market, I think we're out of the running for Barkov. Schmaltz seems like a good choice in that case.
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Jan. 25, 2021 at 9:02 a.m.
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HUGE NO from Pittsburgh. Values are not even in the same ball-park.


Explain
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Jan. 25, 2021 at 9:05 a.m.
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I like Schmaltz. He scored 11 goals in the shortened season last year. I fully expect he'd be similar or better this year.

With PLD-Laine/Roslovic showing us the market, I think we're out of the running for Barkov. Schmaltz seems like a good choice in that case.


PLD/Laine are both RFAs. Barkov will be a UFA. It's not the same market.
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Jan. 25, 2021 at 10:03 a.m.
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Ok, so its always a little harder to set value on forwards to defenceman or vice-versa, but here is my reasoning.

McCann is too valuable to Pittsburgh. He is an example of what the penguins team is... or hopes to be again anyways. In 2016-17 the penguins went back 2 back cups, one of the main reasons that the team prided on was there speed and never quit talent. Since those years the penguins have went the opposite way getting slower with additions of Johnson, Marleau, Gudbranson, Brassard and more. My point being is that McCann's main talent is his shot and speed. So JR and the pens organization love to see speed and youth. That is why they got him and probably their main reason to getting Kappy back too.

Ok now onto the stats charts to break things down even more.

McCann - 7 seasons in the NHL - Had a career high last season 35 pts and he is expected to have a higher point total by this seasons end!!
Soucy - Now don't get me wrong, I think Soucy is a top 6 dman. Has played 1 full NHL season and put up 14 pts.

Summary:

So to sum it all up, I don't ever see Soucy being anything more than a top 6 dman, and potentially an overpaid one. The votes in CF poll when the signing was made show a tie of 22 votes saying that it was good and 22 saying it was bad. So time will tell how that goes.

But, my main point is that he is nothing more than a top 6 dman and McCann is a bubbling top 6 winger. He has seen time with Malkin before and this season he has again.

So yeah thats kinda my thinking towards the situation. Again, this is just my opinion, yours and others can be very different, and thats ok!
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Jan. 25, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Missouri
Ok, so its always a little harder to set value on forwards to defenceman or vice-versa, but here is my reasoning.

McCann is too valuable to Pittsburgh. He is an example of what the penguins team is... or hopes to be again anyways. In 2016-17 the penguins went back 2 back cups, one of the main reasons that the team prided on was there speed and never quit talent. Since those years the penguins have went the opposite way getting slower with additions of Johnson, Marleau, Gudbranson, Brassard and more. My point being is that McCann's main talent is his shot and speed. So JR and the pens organization love to see speed and youth. That is why they got him and probably their main reason to getting Kappy back too.

Ok now onto the stats charts to break things down even more.

McCann - 7 seasons in the NHL - Had a career high last season 35 pts and he is expected to have a higher point total by this seasons end!!
Soucy - Now don't get me wrong, I think Soucy is a top 6 dman. Has played 1 full NHL season and put up 14 pts.

Summary:

So to sum it all up, I don't ever see Soucy being anything more than a top 6 dman, and potentially an overpaid one. The votes in CF poll when the signing was made show a tie of 22 votes saying that it was good and 22 saying it was bad. So time will tell how that goes.

But, my main point is that he is nothing more than a top 6 dman and McCann is a bubbling top 6 winger. He has seen time with Malkin before and this season he has again.

So yeah thats kinda my thinking towards the situation. Again, this is just my opinion, yours and others can be very different, and thats ok!


Thank you!
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Jan. 25, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.
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Basically:
Pit fans are higher on McCann than Soucy.
MN fans are higher on Soucy than McCann.
In a vacuum as players aren't far apart in value. Like if either team tossed a 3rd into the deal I don't think there would be much complaining from the fanbase getting the 3rd + player for the other player.

MN needs McCann more than PIT needs Soucy. Soucy is a UFA and McCann is a RFA when their contracts end. Their AAV and term is close. The team control of McCann tips the balance to MN having to add something more.
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