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Hes just taking up space at this point

Created by: The_Rocket
Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 26, 2021
Published: Jan. 26, 2021
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Jake has been very uninspiring this season. Canucks should seek to dump him if they can
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
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You're a Canucks fan and this is your analysis of Virtanen and the trade you would do? My lord.

You could definitely get north of a 2nd round pick for him.
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
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Holl for Norris
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:41 p.m.
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Then bench him, like Holland did with Jones, and Bear when they were playing awful.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.
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leafs decline holls been great so far and vesey has been decent
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Then bench him, like Holland did with Jones, and Bear when they were playing awful.


You say this like Virtanen was ever as good as Bear or Jones.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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You say this like Virtanen was ever as good as Bear or Jones.



Well.... they play at different positions, so it’s hard to compare, however that doesn’t give a right to trade him for scraps. He’s just having a rough start... I say bench him.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Then bench him, like Holland did with Jones, and Bear when they were playing awful.


He was benched in the playoff’s and scratched for a few games. Didn’t help
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
You're a Canucks fan and this is your analysis of Virtanen and the trade you would do? My lord.

You could definitely get north of a 2nd round pick for him.


If he was worth a 2nd he would have been traded in the offseason for sure
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
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He was benched in the playoff’s and scratched for a few games. Didn’t help



At that point if he doesn’t improve you may be A. Rushing him, or B. He needs a change of scenery.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
You're a Canucks fan and this is your analysis of Virtanen and the trade you would do? My lord.

You could definitely get north of a 2nd round pick for him.


Jack Roslovic = 3rd pick
Jake Virtanen = 3rd pick
Are they not comparable?
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
You're a Canucks fan and this is your analysis of Virtanen and the trade you would do? My lord.

You could definitely get north of a 2nd round pick for him.


Holl is much better than Virtanen and Vesey is likely a better cost effective contract.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
At that point if he doesn’t improve you may be A. Rushing him, or B. He needs a change of scenery.


Or he just isn’t good.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Or he just isn’t good.




Nah he needs time. No need to rush. And if that doesn’t work, then trade him for a good return.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Jack Roslovic = 3rd pick
Jake Virtanen = 3rd pick
Are they not comparable?


Roslovic is a better player than Virtanen. Also, no one said he was worth a 3rd. If anything, it seems like he was valued more than a 3rd, because Kekalainen said the deal wouldn’t have happened if Roslovic wasn’t included.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.
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Nah he needs time. No need to rush. And if that doesn’t work, then trade him for a good return.


He’s 24. There’s not much room to grow. And if you’ve ever seen Virtanen play, you know he’s not going to be a full time NHLer for the rest of his career. He’s just overvalued by people because he was a 1st round pick that can sometimes score goals, just like Alex Galchenyuk. However, his attitude and defensive play aren’t even close to being good enough to play in the NHL.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
He’s 24. There’s not much room to grow. And if you’ve ever seen Virtanen play, you know he’s not going to be a full time NHLer for the rest of his career. He’s just overvalued by people because he was a 1st round pick that can sometimes score goals, just like Alex Galchenyuk. However, his attitude and defensive play aren’t even close to being good enough to play in the NHL.


Honestly it’s not even the attitude. The guy does put in work and obviously wants to be here and throws his hits and everything, but he’s so oblivious on the ice. Every game there’s a handful of dumb plays that are aggravating.

Dump and change in 3 on 3 ot, ignore open teammates when he has the puck, chase a hit and be out of position, standing in the slot in his own end with his stick at waist height.

The worst part is: he’s fast, big, has a wicked shot, and his hands are pretty decent. He’s also started taking the game much more seriously over the past year and a half. He could easily be a Josh Anderson level player if there was anything at all going on In between his ears.
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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Again VAN decline. They would much rather hold onto to Virtanen. They lack depth on right wing. Also they cannot afford to lose another top 9 forward. Leafs should hold onto Holl.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
Again VAN decline. They would much rather hold onto to Virtanen. They lack depth on right wing. Also they cannot afford to lose another top 9 forward. Leafs should hold onto Holl.


Bottom 6 RW is the most overcrowded position on the team. What do you mean they lack depth??
Jan. 29, 2021 at 9:17 p.m.
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Bottom 6 RW is the most overcrowded position on the team. What do you mean they lack depth??


Besides Boeser and Pod. MacEwen is not a regular yet. Hog is a natural LW. Lind is yet to make any noise and Lockwood is another project.
 
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