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Three Way Cuz IDK Why

Created by: Anus_McLeod
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 27, 2021
Published: Jan. 27, 2021
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Description
I started this mainly as an attempt to be funny and make the end result close to the Isles swapping Toews for Dunn straight up.

Ended up throwing in a Wahlstrom for Kaut swap for good measure too though because (1) I don't think Colorado trades Helleson for a second, (2) I'm not sure Wahlstrom is a Trotz/Lou type guy, and (3) I'm an Avs fan and I like him, lol.

Really if I'm being honest you should just ignore this ACGM.

In case you didn't take the advice directly above, here is the summary:

Blues:
Out: Dunn
In: Helleson, 2021 2nd

Isles:
Out: Wahlstrom, Colorado 2nd (x2)
In: Kaut, Dunn

Avs
Out: Helleson, Kaut
In: Wahlstrom, 2022 2nd
Trades
1.
NYI
COL
  1. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
2.
STL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Helleson, Drew
Buyouts
Buried
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2021
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22$81,500,000$78,469,167$0$2,537,500$3,030,833
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 5
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RW, LW, C
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C
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UFA - 1
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$894,166$894,166 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 ($1,425,000$1M$1,425,000$1M)
LD
UFA - 2
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$786,666$786,666 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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Jan. 27, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
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To be fair No one under the age of 25 with skill is a trotz guy
Jan. 27, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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Based on the description I was expecting a much less reasonable 3-way trade but to be totally honest, its not bad. I think someone a little more valuable than Helleson should be in his place but the rest looks pretty solid.
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Jan. 27, 2021 at 12:59 p.m.
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Haven’t you guys robbed us enough
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Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.
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Haven’t you guys robbed us enough


I really don’t want to trade wahlstrom, but in this case you have to do it if dunn is on the table. Wahlstrom is more of a need for the isles but dunn is already an elite defenseman.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Club_de_Hockey_le_Canadien
Based on the description I was expecting a much less reasonable 3-way trade but to be totally honest, its not bad. I think someone a little more valuable than Helleson should be in his place but the rest looks pretty solid.


I wanted to make it at least somewhat legit. Really I just don't see why there would be a third team without the frivolity factor, which was why I went there in the description.

Mostly agree on Helleson not being a good enough piece, but I will also say that I also think he's underrated.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.
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Haven’t you guys robbed us enough


Probably, but I'm all for engaging in more robbery if at all possible!
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
I really don’t want to trade wahlstrom, but in this case you have to do it if dunn is on the table. Wahlstrom is more of a need for the isles but dunn is already an elite defenseman.


Here’s my problem w this tho: I’m this case we’re essentially trading Toews and Wahlstrom for Dunn, while Toews is better than Dunn. That wouldn’t sit well w me
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
Probably, but I'm all for engaging in more robbery if at all possible!


Fair, you could probably do it too considering the dunce we have as our gm
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Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Here’s my problem w this tho: I’m this case we’re essentially trading Toews and Wahlstrom for Dunn, while Toews is better than Dunn. That wouldn’t sit well w me


That’s a fair take, doubt the isles are interested in dunn anyways and apparently Lou has not been willing to include wahlstrom or Dobson in a trade over the last few years so I don’t think you have to worry
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Here’s my problem w this tho: I’m this case we’re essentially trading Toews and Wahlstrom for Dunn, while Toews is better than Dunn. That wouldn’t sit well w me


TBH, that was another motivation for sticking my team in this, lol.
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Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:10 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Here’s my problem w this tho: I’m this case we’re essentially trading Toews and Wahlstrom for Dunn, while Toews is better than Dunn. That wouldn’t sit well w me


You're getting Kaut though, so really it's Toews and a prospect downgrade for Dunn. Kaut, being more of a Trotz type guy (imo) might actually play though, so there's that.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
You're getting Kaut though, so really it's Toews and a prospect downgrade for Dunn. Kaut, being more of a Trotz type guy (imo) might actually play though, so there's that.


Wahlstrom was solid defensively during his 9 game stint with the isles. Everything with Trotz is about age and experience. If wahlstrom was 28, he’d be a trotz guy. He’s physical, shooters mentality etc...
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Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
That’s a fair take, doubt the isles are interested in dunn anyways and apparently Lou has not been willing to include wahlstrom or Dobson in a trade over the last few years so I don’t think you have to worry


Makes sense considering how well were developing them
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
You're getting Kaut though, so really it's Toews and a prospect downgrade for Dunn. Kaut, being more of a Trotz type guy (imo) might actually play though, so there's that.


Personally, I’m not a big Kaut fan tbh
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Makes sense considering how well were developing them


Lol I mean Dobson has been incredible but that’s in spite of how Lou /trotz have handled him. But Yeah isles have no clue how to develop forwards.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.
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Lol I mean Dobson has been incredible but that’s in spite of how Lou /trotz have handled him. But Yeah isles have no clue how to develop forwards.


Dobson is too talented to ruin
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Personally, I’m not a big Kaut fan tbh


Neither am I (never liked the pick), but I'm in the minority with Avs fans. He did actually look pretty good in his 9 games last year though. Certainly exceeded my expectations.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Dobson is too talented to ruin


Lol old hockey men are going to be praising Lou/trotz for how they handled him though

I think wahlstrom with end up as a high end 2nd liner, average 1st liner
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:24 p.m.
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pass on that avs trade.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
pass on that avs trade.


Really? Which piece bothers you the most? I like Helleson but can part with him due to the depth at RHD. Kaut doesn't bother me too much.

Wahlstrom next to Newhook for the next however many years is something I like the sound of.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
Really? Which piece bothers you the most? I like Helleson but can part with him due to the depth at RHD. Kaut doesn't bother me too much.

Wahlstrom next to Newhook for the next however many years is something I like the sound of.


it's not what the avs are giving it's what they're getting.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:09 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
it's not what the avs are giving it's what they're getting.


You don't like Wahlstrom? Personally I think he could be a great piece for the Avs.

It's not a slam dunk though, as losing Helleson for essentially a second hurts. Might be worth it to get (imo) the better prospect though.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 4:31 p.m.
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According to Friedman the Blues' asking price for Dunn is a 1st. Not sure a very late 2nd and Helleson really gets there.

I could see Dunn being a fit with NYI though. But they'd probably do a deal directly with Blues and just cut the Avs out. I do understand that you're trying to include those 2 2nd's for the Toews comparison though.
Jan. 27, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.
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According to Friedman the Blues' asking price for Dunn is a 1st. Not sure a very late 2nd and Helleson really gets there.

I could see Dunn being a fit with NYI though. But they'd probably do a deal directly with Blues and just cut the Avs out. I do understand that you're trying to include those 2 2nd's for the Toews comparison though.


The Avs not being necessary is why I titled it the way I did. This one is really just for fun, but I tried to make it not totally ludicrous too.
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