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Created by: Missouri

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 27, 2021

Published: Jan. 27, 2021

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With the injury list on defense pilling up, I think we may need to make a small trade. Now here is what I am thinking....

Drew O'Connor was lights out good in last nights game.
-He fit in on the PP like a regular
-He is a physical big body
-He is young with potential to grow

So hear me out now...

I would expect O'Connor to become a full-time NHLer at some point in this season. With him jumping into the lineup, that leaves us with an excess of Forwards and the odd one out is....

Zach Aston-Reese

I am truly a big fan of Zach but with 3 seasons of playing on the Penguins he hasn't shown much in my eyes. 17 points being his highest point total is far from anything spectacular. (Please leave an explanation if you think I am wrong by saying this)

FINAL SUMMARY:

Now with all that being said, I believe that we trade Zach while he still has some value and he could potentially become a top 6 player that we all expected him to be if he gets a fresh start. I suggest we trade him for a strong top 6 or 7th dman.

Now the part that I need help with is what Dman would you guys suggest????? I gave 5 of my top guys but I would love to hear more ideas!

Here are my thoughts and please give me yours in the comments!

Thanks and keep it positive!
Missouri

Trades

PIT

Hamonic, Travis

Additional Details:

Idea 1 - JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER.

VAN

Aston-Reese, Zach

PIT

Graves, Ryan

Additional Details:

Idea 2 - We would have Salary issues for sure. Maybe Matheson goes the other way? JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER

COL

ZAR

PIT

Hunt, Brad

Additional Details:

Idea 3 - I really like this one. With Ian Cole added, Minnesota has an overabundance of Dmen, soooooooo. JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER

MIN

ZAR

PIT

Additional Details:

Idea 4 - One of these guys. If its Demers ARZ would have to retain and we would have Salary issues. JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER

ARI

ZAR

PIT

Mete, Victor

Additional Details:

Idea 5 - I've always been a big fan of Mete. The guy needs a chance and Pittsburgh would be a GREAT fit!!! ZAR and Mete both need fresh starts sooooo... JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER

MTL

ZAR

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $1,166,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$81,500,000	$75,059,167	$0	$1,912,500	$6,440,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
McCann, Jared $2,940,000$2,940,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW UFA - 2	Jankowski, Mark $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Sceviour, Colton $1,200,000$1,200,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 3
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2	Ceci, Cody $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 2
	Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Mete, Victor $735,000$735,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Riikola, Juuso $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 2
Oesterle, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5
Demers, Jason $3,937,500$3,937,500 RD UFA - 1		Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3
Hunt, Brad $700,000$700,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Rodrigues, Evan $700,000$700,000 LW, C UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan $3,166,667$3,166,667 LD UFA - 3		Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD UFA - 6
Hamonic, Travis $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD NMC UFA - 1		Trotman, Zach $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Lafferty, Sam $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, C, LW UFA - 2
D'Orio, Alex $733,333$733,333 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 2
Czuczman, Kevin $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1
Lagacé, Maxime $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Jan. 27, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.

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Missouri

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Quoting: coga16

Zar doesn’t have anything close to that value. He’s. 4th liner and still injured

Come on

Hey hey, re-read the trades. "JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER" Obviously we would need to add something... like jeez. Come on

Jan. 27, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.

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SevenLeg

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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37

im not comparing him to brent burns im saying he could be the next brent burns

What's the difference? And being the next Brent Burns means winning the Norris, and being a 6-times NHL All-Star

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.

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Quoting: Missouri

You know maybe later in the season, but at this point I would say defense is our main concern. I personally wouldn't mind Gaudette tho! Virtanen I'm not a huge fan of.

Yea I was thinking probably an offseason move anyway. Would Gaudette for Kapanen be of interest? I know you just got him back so fair if you're hesitant to move him.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Foppa21

Outside of Letang, your whole d-corp would be battling for a roster spot on the Avs, so...

NOOOO. Letang, Dumo, Marino and even MP are better than a majority of your d-core. Johnson is old and overpaid. Graves is basically another Matheson, just puts up less points, Toews is worse than Dumo 100%. Byram and Timmins I haven't seen enough of to know. Makar and Girard I am huge fans of so I can't argue there.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.

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Quoting: Canucks33

Yea I was thinking probably an offseason move anyway. Would Gaudette for Kapanen be of interest? I know you just got him back so fair if you're hesitant to move him.

No, I would hope that since we overpaid on Kappy that we keep him until we get his full value out of him. I am optimistic we will but who knows. I'm really not sure what would be a fair trade for Gaudette that we would want to give.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.

#31

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I think the minny one makes the most sense and is the fairest in a one for one. A fwd we won’t protect for a dmen we won’t protect so we don’t get screwed there. Plus if I’m not mistaken, Guerin recruited ZAR when he was with the pens so could convince him that way. Although I think Minny is looking to trade one of their top D that will bring them return.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.

#32

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Quoting: pharrow

yeah Except Letand, Dumo Marino would officially be half your Dcore.

Quoting: Missouri

Lol. "My team's so much better than yours."

Last year: Makar outscored Letang. Girard, Toews, and Graves all outscored Dumo and Marino.
This year: Makar, Girard, and Toews are all outscoring Letang.
To top it off: https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-four-defenses/

But sure, you keep believing all that.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.

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Quoting: Missouri

Hey hey, re-read the trades. "JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER" Obviously we would need to add something... like jeez. Come on

you need to add something....ZAR isn't a piece you built around in a. trade, hes one you throw in.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Foppa21

Points don't make the man. The defensive plays do.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:23 p.m.

#35

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Quoting: Foppa21

Also re-read the spot where its says "ATTENTION ALL PENGUINS FANS"

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.

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I've got another counter offer for you: Hunt + GMBG + $12 tin of chocolates from Walgreens for ZAR.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.

#37

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Quoting: Missouri

Points don't make the man. The defensive plays do.

Okay, sure. Let's follow that argument:

CF Percentages for Defenseman this season:
Erik Johnson: 67.6%
Cale Makar: 62.8%
Bowen Byram: 57.9%
Brian Dumoulin: 57.4%
Devon Toews: 57.1%
Marcus Pettersson: 57.0%
Sam Girard: 53.8%
Kris Letang: 53.1%
Ryan Graves: 52.8%
John Marino: 49.0%

Looks like your argument doesn't hold much water, my friend.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.

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Hamonic signed a cheap deal in Vancouver because he was adamant about staying in western Canada. He'd probably not be happy to move to Pittsburgh, to the point that he'd probably retire. Remember this is the guy who sat out the playoffs due to the bubble.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.

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Quoting: Richard88

Yeah good point. I am just a fan of him thats why i suggested him

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.

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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37

no hes not we play 7 d makar girard toews johnson graves patryn and ether timmins or byram

Our D right now is

Toews -- Makar
Byram -- Girard
Graves -- Johnson
Timmins

Bednar wants to have that big 3rd pairing so that gives Graves the inside track on Timmins, but if he has more bad games that might change.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.

#41

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Quoting: Foppa21

Alright alright jeez. Cool it dude

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:49 p.m.

#42

Richard88

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Why would the Avs have interest in ZAR?

I mean, you kinda said it yourself in the description: "I am truly a big fan of Zach but with 3 seasons of playing on the Penguins he hasn't shown much in my eyes. 17 points being his highest point total is far from anything spectacular. (Please leave an explanation if you think I am wrong by saying this)"

ZAR isn't an upgrade on what we have. He's the sort of player/contract you throw into a bigger deal just to balance contracts or roster numbers.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:49 p.m.

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Quoting: Foppa21

Outside of Letang, your whole d-corp would be battling for a roster spot on the Avs, so...

It's funny because it's true

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Quoting: Foppa21

when internet kids think defense is about points.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37

im not comparing him to brent burns im saying he could be the next brent burns

Ryan Graves is not the next Brent Burns.

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Richard88

Quoting: Foppa21

Hey you Colorado fans.!! READ THE TITLE. PENGUINS FANS ONLY, SO BACK OFF WITH YOUR TROLLING COMMENTS

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Missouri

Hey hey, re-read the trades. "JUST A BASE TRADE REMEMBER" Obviously we would need to add something... like jeez. Come on

Why not propose a semi-realistic trade then, instead of saying "your top 4 LHD for our 4th liner, as a base"....

Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:54 p.m.

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Quoting: Foppa21

Nice use of analytics to win an argument

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Jan. 27, 2021 at 3:56 p.m.

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Quoting: Missouri

Hey you Colorado fans.!! READ THE TITLE. PENGUINS FANS ONLY, SO BACK OFF WITH YOUR TROLLING COMMENTS

It's only natural that an AGM with Avs involved is going to attract Avs fans, regardless what the title says. Figured you might want to hear our point of view to form a realistic trade scenario.

Jan. 27, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.

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Quoting: wabit

I think the d-man PIT needs from MN is Soucy not Hunt.

Making a trade around Soucy (he shouldn't be too expensive) as the main piece coming back would make PIT's defense much better than Hunt (fringe NHLer) would.

Soucy will be exposed for expansion. No reason for Minnesota to trade him unless it's a deal Minnesota can't say no to

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