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Can we trade Dermott for Dunn

Created by: KeepUps15
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 29, 2021
Published: Jan. 29, 2021
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I like the idea of running 7d and 11f more. There should be a rotation between Bogosian, Lehtonen and sandin, as well as a rotation for fd and 12f. As for the expansion draft we can protect Dunn, Mo and Muzzin. I don't think Holl gets taken because there will be other good bottom pairing defenseman who are probably better then Holl and younger
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  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
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this draft sucks. use it as an asset
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.
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It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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Trade aside, you have to protect both Muzzin and Brodie in the expansion draft.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:06 p.m.
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Leafs don't need him
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
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Leafs don't need him


he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
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Nice that you don't protect Reilly in the expansion draft. Leafs don't need Dunn and it really puts the Leafs against the cap,
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


Gee better than Reilly, Muzzin, Brodin, maybe even Holl.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.


Please explain why you believe Dermott is struggling?
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He’s not struggling at all, our top 4 is set. Dunn will be in the same position
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


Your hot takes are just amazing. How is Dunn going to be better than Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie or even Holl? Just absolute nonsense.
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Please explain why you believe Dermott is struggling?
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He’s not struggling at all, our top 4 is set. Dunn will be in the same position


He plays for the Leafs, that means he's struggling.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.
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Maybe on Xbox
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.


He has looked great to me, struggled for minutes maybe. Dermott deserves a place where he can get more ice time.,
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Trade aside, you have to protect both Muzzin and Brodie in the expansion draft.


why Brodie? Does his NTC not expire?

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Nice that you don't protect Reilly in the expansion draft. Leafs don't need Dunn and it really puts the Leafs against the cap,

I just said Mo. Dermott hasn't been for the past 2 years, while Dunn has just had a bad start. We can even sell higher on him in the future
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Please explain why you believe Dermott is struggling?
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He’s not struggling at all, our top 4 is set. Dunn will be in the same position


0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
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why Brodie? Does his NTC not expire?


No, his NMC carries through the expansion draft and the becomes an NTC.
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Gee better than Reilly, Muzzin, Brodin, maybe even Holl.


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Your hot takes are just amazing. How is Dunn going to be better than Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie or even Holl? Just absolute nonsense.


I think you guys are underrating Dunn - he's only 24, already elite and still getting better. Muzzin and rielly are the only two D that are better than him right now. I doubt a 33 YO muzzin is going to better than dunn next season.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then


So a guy that gets 8 maybe 10 mins a night is supposed to be an offensive player. 😂 At least if your going to comment have some knowledge
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then


Some of those games were 7D games. In general I don’t think he has played more than 10 min a night, sometimes less. He has been really good defensively but is still lacking the confidence to jump up in rushes. He has all the tools. Whoever gets him (my guess is Seattle) will be really pleased.
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
I think you guys are underrating Dunn - he's only 24, already elite and still getting better. Muzzin and rielly are the only two D that are better than him right now. I doubt a 33 YO muzzin is going to better than dunn next season.


Fair but Dunn won’t be beating out Muzzin or Rielly next year. Dunn will be in the same position as Dermott
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.


I wouldn't exactly say struggling. Sure, the offence hasn't been there, but I've found him to be real good so far this season. Very reliable.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Fair but Dunn won’t be beating out Muzzin or Rielly next year. Dunn will be in the same position as Dermott


Yeah that's true.

tbh if it was possible I would trade Rielly for Dunn+ and sign Dunn to a a 5-6 year deal.
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


mmm, that's a bit much, imo. I appreciate the talent that this kid has, but he's never had to play in an unsheltered role, and as much as people like to rag on the Leafs D, Rielly, Muzzin, and Brodie are all very good quality Dmen.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Yeah that's true.

tbh if it was possible I would trade Rielly for Dunn+ and sign Dunn to a a 5-6 year deal.


Now you are talking. I’m sure my fellow Leaf fans will not support that but it’s inevitable that Rielly gets moved. Mainly because of the flat cap. Something has to give to keep this team competitive and he will command 7-8 mil on he’s next deal
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Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:41 p.m.
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I think you guys are underrating Dunn - he's only 24, already elite and still getting better. Muzzin and rielly are the only two D that are better than him right now. I doubt a 33 YO muzzin is going to better than dunn next season.


How is he elite? What a joke
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
mmm, that's a bit much, imo. I appreciate the talent that this kid has, but he's never had to play in an unsheltered role, and as much as people like to rag on the Leafs D, Rielly, Muzzin, and Brodie are all very good quality Dmen.


The sheltered role doesn't mean much because his quality of teammates is very low. Dunn's role is harder than if he was facing top competition with more skilled teammates.

Muzzin and Rielly are still better than Dunn, but by next season in an increased role Dunn will likely be a top 20 D man.
Jan. 29, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.
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How is he elite? What a joke



 
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