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the fact you are trying to justify the actions of a guy who has a long and troubling history of racism....there is no place in the 2021 NHL for guys like him. He will cry that he is being prosecuted for his beliefs, no its bc hes an awful person and an awful teammate that has finally had too many chances. Should have been told to hit the bricks a long time ago

I'm not justifying anything he did or did not do. I don't care if Tony is an awful person or a good person. I'm pointing out that he has rights as labor and outrage culture is designed to strip those rights. It has nothing to do with his beliefs, it has to do with his contract. The Rangers are very tight against the cap with their bonuses. They probably regret giving Tony that contract, primarily for financial reasons. Rest assured, the general process here is NOT actually about Tony DeAngelo on a broader level. He is just an easy target for prolefeed consumers like you. The point is to make the position of labor more precarious and to increase corporate power. The "allegations" that can be used against someone to strip them of their contract (and then access to banking, housing, whatever, which is already a reality for people lower on the pole that corporate power has taken aim at) will get more and more spurious. Less and less evidence will be required to prove it. In a hard cap league like the NHL, you can bet there is incentive for certain players to try to get someone's contract terminated so that an extension might come their way.

The NHL is a business. Not having Deangelo as a part of their business is the right fiscal decision. It’s a no brainer. Enjoy Russia kid.

Tony, is that you?

Man, you guys really bend over backwards to try to craft the narrative around your point of view.

For what? Punching the goalie? I mean, if that is the standard, does Kreider go too?



"Allegations" is the not the standard. Need more than that. If there is evidence, he is gone. But still need to maintain standards.



Deangelo is an a-hole. He has a history. But that 2014 event did not occur under this contract. The Rangers signed him knowing full well his history. Cannot fire him for that now, since they were aware of his history. He would have had to break a clause in current contract. And maybe punching Georgiev applies...and certainly racial abuse towards Miller would apply, but that latter point is speculation.



NHL is a business, and this is thankfully a free-market capitalist society.
But it is a system based on trust and on laws. In some countries, contracts are meaningless. Here they are not. That is what allows free markets to operate. Anyone can freely enter into contracts, knowing they will be enforced. Thus you get full participation, which allows free-markets to follow normal laws of economics.

The NHL and the NHLPA collectively bargained an agreement under which conduct detrimental to the league can result in termination of contract. It’s really clear the league thinks he did something that falls into that category, as do the rangers. Deangelo has every right to file a lawsuit against the league. I think he would probably get laughed out of the court house, but its his right to try.

What’s the alternative here? It’s some giant conspiracy, and the NHL is just running around trying to get conservatives kicked out of the league one by one?

If Rangers terminate his deal for punching a teammate, but do not terminate Kreider's deal for the same...I do not think it would be hard for DeAngelo to find sympathetic court if those are the only circumstances to adjudicate.

If Rangers terminate his deal for 'fiscal' reasons, the NHLPA would back him whole-heartedly.

If Rangers terminate for racial abuse, and back it up with evidence, he is clearly done.

But cannot create a new standard for him since he is an a-hole, or since he has history, or since someone disagrees with his politics. All of those things would be easily dismissed before he ever sets foot in courtroom. No lawyer would ever even argue on those points.

This has nothing to do with politics. It has nothing to do with everyone on the planet hating him. It has to do with racism. You know this. You know he was suspended in other leagues for bigoted speech.

You get this, stop pretending you don’t. You understand that this isn’t because he hit a teammate. This is hockey. You know this is because hes a bigot. His contract will be terminated. He’ll talk to a lawyer, the lawyer will tell him there’s no chance, and off to Russia.

One fact you are missing, a team can’t terminate a contract until the offseason that is considered a buyout, so unless player and team agree to terminate the contract there’s nothing the Rangers can do except assign him to the AHL, ECHL or Taxi squad. Unless they agree to loan him to another team in which they’d still get him back next year, kinda like what they did with Andersson last year.

If Bettman wants him gone, they’ll figure it out

He was suspended in 2014 for using racial slurs. I know that. So did the NY Rangers when they signed him. That has no bearing here.

And we have no idea if race or politics had anything to do with this event. But since, (a) he has a history and (b) his politics are out of style...we assume it did. I disagree wholeheartedly with him politically, but I don't think that is fair.

If a mob showed up to your workplace with pitchforks and statements you made at age 16/17...would you quietly exit to Russia?

If he was in breach of contract, they can certainly end the contract. May need a court to do so, but doable. Not sure how it would impact salary cap.

He’s on waivers. If this was jsut a tiff between teammates, he wouldn’t be on waivers.

He could also be on waivers since he was not a very good player, at least not one deserving of $4.8m contract. Or of a spot in top-six....and couldn't demote/taxi-squad him without waiving him.

Also 'being placed on waivers' is not evidence of wrongdoing...it is response to it. A punishment does not prove a crime.

Holy sheesh. Cmon dude. You know what’s going on

Yes I do. Social pressures are in a tug-of-war with due process.

I don’t think it should be a fair fight.

Bye

Wait, maybe this one is Tony too.
That you guy?

No Mike Gartner, I am not

I've been following your posts on here and I think you'd be a great addition to the GM Game here on CapFriendly. The game is basically a season long Arm-Chair team where you get to make trades, draft, etc. and we have a formal scoring system for playoffs. If you are interested and want to know more, just quote and reply to this post and I'll answer any questions you've got. We've got some openings for assistant GMs that would involve you helping GMs by offering input on all aspects of the game.

FWIW, John Davidson said this had nothing to racism and that the rumor about Miller was 100% false.