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Ottawa would you do this

Created by: sammy1414
Initial Creation Date: Feb 5, 2021
Published: Feb 5 at 11:51
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
EDM
  1. Stützle, Tim
OTT
  1. Holloway, Dylan [Reserve List]
  2. Broberg, Philip
  3. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
  4. Puljujärvi, Jesse
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
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2021
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EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
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EDM
EDM
EDM
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2023
EDM
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$72,888,824$341,326$3,230,000$8,611,176
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
OTT
Stützle, Tim
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
EDM
Kahun, Dominik
$975,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$875,000
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Haas, Gaëtan
$915,000
C
UFA - 1
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Turris, Kyle
$1,650,000
C
UFA - 2
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Koekkoek, Slater
$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Grosenick, Troy
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Lagesson, William
$725,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$850,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
LD/RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$1,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000 ($125,000)
C, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Ennis, Tyler
$1,000,000 ($0)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Skinner, Stuart
$784,166 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
EDM
Wells, Dylan
$745,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
EDM
Shore, Devin
$700,000 ($0)
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Patrick
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Feb 5 at 11:57
#1
AHHHH OUAIS
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no
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Feb 5 at 11:58
#2
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Quoting: Borocop
no


like a big no
Feb 5 at 12:00
#3
Trade is one for one
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Why would either team do this?
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Feb 5 at 12:02
#4
gavinray
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LOL no thank you
Feb 5 at 12:06
#5
Thread Starter
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lol. the kid has a couple of good games and he's valued like McDavid!
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Feb 5 at 12:09
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Quoting: wardbell92
like a big no


such a stretch lol
Feb 5 at 12:10
#7
master of coin
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You forget a critical component of this trade.

Melnyk paying 1 player smile
Melnyk paying 4 players frown
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Feb 5 at 12:12
#8
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3 of these players are not gettin paid
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Feb 5 at 12:13
#9
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Quoting: OilersNation
Why would either team do this?


the Oilers instantly become better
Feb 5 at 12:39
#10
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As an oilers fan, no.
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Feb 5 at 1:00
#11
The other ones Drai
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As either fan base
No thanks
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Feb 5 at 1:04
#12
Drshnuckels
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Neither team wins this
Feb 5 at 1:15
#13
Serf
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Quoting: sammy1414
lol. the kid has a couple of good games and he's valued like McDavid!


Sens fans don't value Stützle like McDavid, they just value him more than a quantity offer like this. The Sens have their own prospects, pretty good ones too, they don't need more. They need high end players, and that's Stützle, so why would they trade him for quantity?
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Feb 5 at 2:47
#14
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Quoting: sammy1414
lol. the kid has a couple of good games and he's valued like McDavid!


hes not mcdavid but theres not much there to entice the sens, they're fine on d prospects, puljujarvi is meh, RNH is a pending UFA, basically the only piece they would actively want is holloway and he would maybe be a top 5 prospect in our pool
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Feb 5 at 3:18
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Sens fans don't value Stützle like McDavid, they just value him more than a quantity offer like this. The Sens have their own prospects, pretty good ones too, they don't need more. They need high end players, and that's Stützle, so why would they trade him for quantity?


I should add, this is a very good offer, it's just not likely to happen.
Feb 5 at 3:19
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Quoting: Borocop
hes not mcdavid but theres not much there to entice the sens, they're fine on d prospects, puljujarvi is meh, RNH is a pending UFA, basically the only piece they would actively want is holloway and he would maybe be a top 5 prospect in our pool


who in your prospect pool are better than Holloway and Broberg?
Feb 5 at 3:30
#17
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Quoting: sammy1414
who in your prospect pool are better than Holloway and Broberg?


sanderson, norris, pinto mainly, its more that neither holloway or broberg have gamebreaker potential like tim, its not a bad offer it just doesnt really make sense
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Feb 5 at 3:32
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Quoting: sammy1414
who in your prospect pool are better than Holloway and Broberg?


Here's Ottawa's top 10 prospects, go ahead and rip each one and tell us all how much better the guys you want to trade are.

Tim Stützle
Jake Sanderson
Drake Batherson
Logan Brown
Alex Formenton
Josh Norris
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Erik Brannstrom
Shane Pinto
Lassi Thomson
Feb 5 at 3:36
#19
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Quoting: sammy1414
the Oilers instantly become better


Nope. They aren't better now, they aren't better in the future. Huge win for Ottawa here.
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Feb 5 at 3:38
#20
mokumboi
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I don't know if they would, but they definitely should given the chance.
Feb 5 at 3:52
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Here's Ottawa's top 10 prospects, go ahead and rip each one and tell us all how much better the guys you want to trade are.

Tim Stützle
Jake Sanderson
Drake Batherson
Logan Brown
Alex Formenton
Josh Norris
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Erik Brannstrom
Shane Pinto
Lassi Thomson


to be fair i would take holloway and brobeg over a most of those guys pretty easily, sens just wont move tim unless its a for an upgrade like Eichel or something
Feb 5 at 4:11
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Quoting: Borocop
to be fair i would take holloway and brobeg over a most of those guys pretty easily, sens just wont move tim unless its a for an upgrade like Eichel or something


Broberg might be a bigger Mike Reilly. He's probably an NHL player, just not an important one.

Holloway should be decent, but might be more like Nick Paul than not, it's hard to say right now.

Of these four pieces, only RNH is, or has a chance to be, a top6 F or a top3 D.

Bouchard would have to replace Broberg to even start a conversation, and an extension by RNH. They are the two main pieces, with Puljujarvi headed to Paajarvi status, which isn't bad, just not great, and Holloway is an unknown right now.
Feb 5 at 4:28
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Broberg might be a bigger Mike Reilly. He's probably an NHL player, just not an important one.

Holloway should be decent, but might be more like Nick Paul than not, it's hard to say right now.

Of these four pieces, only RNH is, or has a chance to be, a top6 F or a top3 D.

Bouchard would have to replace Broberg to even start a conversation, and an extension by RNH. They are the two main pieces, with Puljujarvi headed to Paajarvi status, which isn't bad, just not great, and Holloway is an unknown right now.


i think you're kind of underrating both of them to be fair, broberg is pretty good he could get to a 3d spot but holloway is pretty nice id probably put him right with formenton
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Feb 5 at 4:35
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Broberg might be a bigger Mike Reilly. He's probably an NHL player, just not an important one.

Holloway should be decent, but might be more like Nick Paul than not, it's hard to say right now.

Of these four pieces, only RNH is, or has a chance to be, a top6 F or a top3 D.

Bouchard would have to replace Broberg to even start a conversation, and an extension by RNH. They are the two main pieces, with Puljujarvi headed to Paajarvi status, which isn't bad, just not great, and Holloway is an unknown right now.


Quoting: Borocop
i think you're kind of underrating both of them to be fair, broberg is pretty good he could get to a 3d spot but holloway is pretty nice id probably put him right with formenton


Holloway is 1.6 P/GP in NCAA right now. Nick Paul was 0.69 P/GP in a lower league in his draft+1. That's an extremely unintelligent take.
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Feb 5 at 4:51
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Quoting: Borocop
i think you're kind of underrating both of them to be fair, broberg is pretty good he could get to a 3d spot but holloway is pretty nice id probably put him right with formenton


Exactly, this is what I'm saying.

Broberg is going to be an NHL defenceman, and that's a successful draft pick. He could be a number 3 on a bad team, probably will be a 4/5 on a decent team.

Holloway could be like Formenton, who may not be any better than Paul, but very different than Paul. Now look where Formenton is on the Ottawa prospect list, and that makes Holloway barely a top5 prospect for Ottawa, and he's the better of the two prospects we're discussing right now.
 
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