Best player from the 2017 draft

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Created by: mhockey91

Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 5, 2021

Published: Feb. 5, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

COL

Pettersson, Elias

Additional Details:

Who would you rather have? And no, heiskanen isn’t an option.

VAN

Makar, Cale

Retained Salary Transactions

Ian Cole: $800,000 (18.82%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$78,714,721	$0	$5,350,000	$2,785,279

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Landeskog, Gabriel $5,571,429$5,571,429 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 1	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Rantanen, Mikko $9,250,000$9,250,000 RW, C UFA - 5
Burakovsky, André $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C, LW UFA - 1	Saad, Brandon $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Nichushkin, Valeri $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Donskoi, Joonas $3,900,000$3,900,000 RW UFA - 3
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Jost, Tyson $874,125$874,125 C UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 7	Johnson, Erik $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Grubauer, Philipp $3,333,333$3,333,333 G UFA - 1
Toews, Devon $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD UFA - 4	Byram, Bowen $894,167$894,167 ($2,500,000$2M) LD/RD RFA - 3	Miska, Hunter $725,000$725,000 G UFA - 2
Graves, Ryan $3,166,667$3,166,667 LD UFA - 3	Timmins, Conor $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
O'Connor, Logan $725,000$725,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Calvert, Matt $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Francouz, Pavel $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Pateryn, Greg $2,250,000$2,250,000 ($1,175,000$1M$1,175,000$1M) RD UFA - 1
Werner, Adam $842,500$842,500 ($0$0$0$0) ($57,500$58K) G UFA - 1
Dries, Sheldon $771,750$771,750 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Sherwood, Kiefer $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1
MacDonald, Jacob $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 2

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.

habsfan00

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Nick Suzuki? Yamamoto? Patrick? Hischier?

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.

EsoYeezus69

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Heiskanen>Makar

Fight me.

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:11 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Makar probably.

Hischier and Patrick should remain in conversation too

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: habsfan00

Nick Suzuki? Yamamoto? Patrick? Hischier?

Absolutely not LOL what are you saying

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.

Xqb15a

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Depends on your team. If you have a 1C it’s Makar, if you have a 1D it’s Petersson, for me and I am biased it is Makar if everything is equal.

3,4, and 5 in that draft are heads and shoulders above everybody else.

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Makar probably.

Hischier and Patrick should remain in conversation too

I highly doubt they ever reach the levels of Makar/EP. the only guy who you could argue is Heiskanen

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: Xqb15a

I agree 100%. It’s very close between Makar and EP, with Heiskanen close behind. 3,4,5 way better than anyone else in that draft

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Makar probably.

Hischier and Patrick should remain in conversation too

No they shouldn’t. Patrick first needs to prove he can stay healthy and then that he can produce. Hischier needs to prove he can produce at a higher level.

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: EsoYeezus69

Heiskanen>Makar

Fight me.

Makar has been the best D in the NHL this year. Heiskanen is excellent but I’m still taking Makar

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Makar has been the best D in the NHL this year. Heiskanen is excellent but I’m still taking Makar

We both have different opinions, but I respect yours.

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.

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KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

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Quoting: EsoYeezus69

Heiskanen>Makar

Fight me.

This

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Makar has been the best D in the NHL this year. Heiskanen is excellent but I’m still taking Makar

Makar is WAY worse at defense than MH

In terms of overall play, MH is the very best young d-man in the league

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.

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L I L J E G R E N

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:23 p.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

Makar is WAY worse at defense than MH

In terms of overall play, MH is the very best young d-man in the league

Again I strongly disagree with that. Makar is great two way, especially for a young D. He plays like a veteran out there

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.

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SevenLeg

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1C Nick Suzuki

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:31 p.m.

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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

Makar is WAY worse at defense than MH

In terms of overall play, MH is the very best young d-man in the league

Statistically that's just not true. Makar is in a league of his own this year and that's why there's a lot of talk about him being the early Norris favourite.

Heiskanen was a monster in the playoffs though.

If given a choice I'd take Makar because Norris level RHD's are the rarest breed in hockey. Oh and he was also the first rookie to pace for near PPG last season in like 20-30 years, just insane. And he's not even in his prime yet.

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:32 p.m.

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Heiskanen
Pettersson
Makar
Yamamoto
Hischier
Suzuki

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:38 p.m.

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Edited Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.

Quoting: mhockey91

I highly doubt they ever reach the levels of Makar/EP. the only guy who you could argue is Heiskanen

Quoting: Xqb15a

No they shouldn’t. Patrick first needs to prove he can stay healthy and then that he can produce. Hischier needs to prove he can produce at a higher level.

No, they should. Need to healthy, sure, but they are 21-year old 1Cs from the best division in hockey.

EDIT - they are 22 yrs old. Sorry.

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.

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Makar
Hischier
Heiskanen
Suzuki / Pettersson

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.

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Quoting: SevenLeg

1C Nick Suzuki

LOL ya right. He’s good but he’s not in EP/Makar level

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Makar
Hischier
Heiskanen
Suzuki / Pettersson

Is this some sort of joke.

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

What is "the level" of EP exactly? And what would keep a guy like Hischier from reaching it? Or Suzuki or Patrick or others?
It is not like Pettersson has been lighting the league on fire. (lighting the Senators up, maybe)

No, they should. Need to healthy, sure, but they are 21-year old 1Cs from the best division in hockey.

EDIT - they are 22 yrs old. Sorry.

I’d bet my whole savings account that Suzuki never reaches the level of EP/Makar. He’s just not that type of player. Could he be a 1C? Yeah. It’s not a knock on Suzuki. EP is just so much more dynamic and more gifted offensively. He’s just not in that class. Same goes with Heischer and Patrick

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Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Is this some sort of joke.

No. If you want to switch Hischier and Heiskanen, I'm cool with that.

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:51 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

No. If you want to switch Hischier and Heiskanen, I'm cool with that.

Just gonna disregard your opinion then cause it clearly doesn’t hold much weight

Feb. 5, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

I’d bet my whole savings account that Suzuki never reaches the level of EP/Makar. He’s just not that type of player. Could he be a 1C? Yeah. It’s not a knock on Suzuki. EP is just so much more dynamic and more gifted offensively. He’s just not in that class. Same goes with Heischer and Patrick

Quoting: mhockey91

LOL ya right. He’s good but he’s not in EP/Makar level

What is "the level of Pettersson / Makar"?

Point totals? Overall? Is even Petterson at that level?

If its one player to build a team around for next 10+ years...I have no problem taking Hischier over Petterson.

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