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tough choices for next year

Created by: Jakethesnake97
Initial Creation Date: Feb 5, 2021
Published: Feb 5 at 2:07
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
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Does this make sense ? You'll have to find a way to create cap space for Nick, Romanov and Primeau in 2 years. Mayber Guhle or Harris or Norlinder could replace Chiarot and Kulak. You also have + 1M with Alzner's contract. Give me your thoughts?

IMO Tatar will not get more on the free agency next summer with a flat cap.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Caufield, Cole3$925,000
Harris, Jordan3$900,000
Mysak, Jan3$900,000
Norlinder, Mattias3$900,000
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël3$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fleury, Cale2$850,000
Mete, Victor2$1,000,000
Leskinen, Otto2$750,000
Poehling, Ryan2$850,000
McNiven, Michael2$750,000
Lehkonen, Artturi4$2,500,000
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi3$3,000,000
Aston-Reese, Zach2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Danault, Phillip6$5,000,000
Tatar, Tomas4$4,500,000
Trades
MTL
    seattle
    ANA
    1. Allen, Jake
    MTL
    1. Aston-Reese, Zach [RFA Rights]
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
    3. 2022 4th round pick (PIT)
    PIT
    1. Mete, Victor
    2. Lehkonen, Artturi
    Buyouts
    • Karl Alzner: $1,958,333
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    MTL
    MTL
    TBL
    MTL
    CHI
    WSH
    MTL
    STL
    VGK
    MTL
    OTT
    PHI
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    PIT
    MTL
    PIT
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    STL
    2023
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$80,078,809$0$1,475,000$1,421,191
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MTL
    Tatar, Tomas
    $4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $5,000,000
    C
    UFA
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $6,500,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Toffoli, Tyler
    $4,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Suzuki, Nick
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Caufield, Cole
    $925,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Drouin, Jonathan
    $5,500,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    MTL
    Anderson, Josh
    $5,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    $850,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    MTL
    Evans, Jake
    $750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $1,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MTL
    Edmundson, Joel
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $6,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Chiarot, Ben
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
    MTL
    Primeau, Cayden
    $880,833
    G
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    $1,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Romanov, Alexander
    $894,167
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Fleury, Cale
    $850,000
    RD
    RFA

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    Feb 5 at 2:13
    #1
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    pass on pitsburg trade
    Feb 5 at 2:14
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    Snake97
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    Quoting: habsfan00
    pass on pitsburg trade


    from pittsburgh or mtl ?
    Feb 5 at 2:14
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    Habs4ever
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    Suzuki is the #1 C now, so do not understand why he would drop to #2 next season. By next season KK will be #2C, so you are paying a lot for a 3rd line C that does not give you much offence. Don't get me wrong but I just think Danault is gone next season.
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    Feb 5 at 2:15
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    Quoting: Jakethesnake97
    from pittsburgh or mtl ?


    mtl
    Feb 5 at 2:17
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    Habs4ever
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    Separate point. Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a heck of a line, not sure why you would break them up. And lastly, I do not think Caufield is going to go from college hockey to 2nd line in the NHL. He needs more seasoning.
    Feb 5 at 2:18
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    Opie
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    Agree on Tatar, Habs may even be able to get him on a shorter deal (3?) ... he'll want to stay and as you say, hard to imagine the money will be better out there ... and there will be plenty of other UFA LWs looking for work competing with him for $$$.
    Feb 5 at 2:33
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    Quoting: Jakethesnake97
    from pittsburgh or mtl ?


    Both. I don’t think it’s enough for Mete and Lehkonen, Pittsburgh has an over-abundance of LD and wingers and probably wouldn’t want to give up their cheaper and best defensive forward. Even if he is injury prone.
    Feb 5 at 2:38
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    MTL says no. Leckie out produces Reese and leckie's defensive game is amazing, PK incredible.
    Feb 5 at 3:25
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    Quoting: Habs4ever
    Separate point. Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a heck of a line, not sure why you would break them up. And lastly, I do not think Caufield is going to go from college hockey to 2nd line in the NHL. He needs more seasoning.


    Defenseman is a more challenging position than forward, primarily because it requires greater attention to defense. Cale Makar was 20, with 2 years' experience in college, when he came out of the NCAA and went straight into the Stanley Cup playoffs. Caufield will have the same resume when he joins the Canadiens next fall. I'm not saying he'll be an All-Star like Makar, either now, soon or ever, but I think that you'll be pleasantly surprised by my fellow Badger. Have a little faith!
    Feb 5 at 3:44
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    Habs4ever
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Defenseman is a more challenging position than forward, primarily because it requires greater attention to defense. Cale Makar was 20, with 2 years' experience in college, when he came out of the NCAA and went straight into the Stanley Cup playoffs. Caufield will have the same resume when he joins the Canadiens next fall. I'm not saying he'll be an All-Star like Makar, either now, soon or ever, but I think that you'll be pleasantly surprised by my fellow Badger. Have a little faith!


    Well makar is very abnormal. He truly is a major stud. I cannot believe the numbers he is putting up. If Caufield can do similarly to that, then I say wow and will be pleasantly surprised. Hey I hope he does and I am wrong.
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    Feb 5 at 3:49
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    Quoting: Habs4ever
    Separate point. Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a heck of a line, not sure why you would break them up. And lastly, I do not think Caufield is going to go from college hockey to 2nd line in the NHL. He needs more seasoning.


    I think Caufield is NHL ready right now. He is pretty much carrying the offense for the entire Badgers team this season. He is being used in all situations and is putting up almost 2 ppg. The kid is really really good and already outplaying the competition at the college level. He needs stiffer competition to grow as a player and Laval does not provide that as the AHL is pretty close to the level of the NCAA.
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    Feb 5 at 3:50
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    Quoting: Habs4ever
    Well makar is very abnormal. He truly is a major stud. I cannot believe the numbers he is putting up. If Caufield can do similarly to that, then I say wow and will be pleasantly surprised. Hey I hope he does and I am wrong.


    I'll bet that he outperforms Josh Anderson next season. Enjoy!
    Feb 5 at 3:52
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    PittsburghModelMyAss
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    Quoting: Habs4ever
    Separate point. Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a heck of a line, not sure why you would break them up. And lastly, I do not think Caufield is going to go from college hockey to 2nd line in the NHL. He needs more seasoning.


    At least this is more reasonable than the ppl having Norlinder as a top-4 when he comes over from sweden lol but ya I agree I don't think MTL will want Caufield playing in a bottom 6 position when in the NHL and it wld be hard to imagine him being ready right away out of college for a top 6 role.
    Feb 5 at 3:57
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    Pay Seattle a 2nd or 3rd to take Edmundson over Allen and drop the Lehky\Mete trade
    Feb 5 at 4:06
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    Quoting: TheGHANDI90
    At least this is more reasonable than the ppl having Norlinder as a top-4 when he comes over from sweden lol but ya I agree I don't think MTL will want Caufield playing in a bottom 6 position when in the NHL and it wld be hard to imagine him being ready right away out of college for a top 6 role.


    Have you been paying attention to the Badgers season this year?

    Here is an updated report card with some video's of his game currently.

    https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/catching-the-torch/2021/2/3/22259243/catching-the-torch-cole-caufield-doing-things-you-rarely-see-in-ncaa-canadiens-prospect-analysis
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    Feb 5 at 4:08
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    Habs4ever
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    Quoting: Campabee
    I think Caufield is NHL ready right now. He is pretty much carrying the offense for the entire Badgers team this season. He is being used in all situations and is putting up almost 2 ppg. The kid is really really good and already outplaying the competition at the college level. He needs stiffer competition to grow as a player and Laval does not provide that as the AHL is pretty close to the level of the NCAA.


    While I agree with some of what you are saying the AHL is far far far superior to college hockey. I have had over 100 players go from NCAA to AHL and all of them told me it was a step up. The players were bigger stronger faster.
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    Feb 5 at 4:26
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    PittsburghModelMyAss
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Have you been paying attention to the Badgers season this year?

    Here is an updated report card with some video's of his game currently.

    https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/catching-the-torch/2021/2/3/22259243/catching-the-torch-cole-caufield-doing-things-you-rarely-see-in-ncaa-canadiens-prospect-analysis


    I've been keeping track yes. Just because he is lighting up the NCAA doesn't mean he is ready for the NHL and won't get bullied around by 25-30 yr old men. But needless to say I'm liking his development against his peer group so far. Only time will tell if his game will translate to the big leagues I guess...
    Feb 5 at 4:31
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    Habs4ever
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    I'll bet that he outperforms Josh Anderson next season. Enjoy!


    if you are right on this. wow! can't think of a better word!
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    Feb 5 at 4:33
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    Quoting: TheGHANDI90
    I've been keeping track yes. Just because he is lighting up the NCAA doesn't mean he is ready for the NHL and won't get bullied around by 25-30 yr old men. But needless to say I'm liking his development against his peer group so far. Only time will tell if his game will translate to the big leagues I guess...


    I was not sure if you were following his development LOL. I think he will be fine but that may just be wishful thinking as Caufield is actually the only prospect I have ever followed their development lol.
    Feb 5 at 4:38
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    PittsburghModelMyAss
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    Quoting: Campabee
    I was not sure if you were following his development LOL. I think he will be fine but that may just be wishful thinking as Caufield is actually the only prospect I have ever followed their development lol.


    Well let's keep our fingers crossed, because we've had far too many promising prospects growth get stunted once they join the habs... Maybe times are finally a changin : D
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    Feb 6 at 3:29
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    Mete is quickly becoming the most over valued 7th dman in the whole league.

    he's played 82 games over 4 years now. his even strength is 12 points his 5v5 is 12. His total is a whopping 15.
    Now there is more to playing defense than points. But his advance metrics are pedestrian replacement value. barely 50% corsi, barely 50% FF.
    Which explains why he's on the bench.
    Feb 8 at 11:25
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    Snake97
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    Quoting: TheLastOfUs
    MTL says no. Leckie out produces Reese and leckie's defensive game is amazing, PK incredible.


    if you want to keep tatar and danault you have to sacrifice something. Maybe the return isn't enough I was just supposing something.
     
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