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Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 7, 2021
Published: Feb. 7, 2021
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Free Agent Signings
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3$925,000
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7$7,000,000
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2$1,000,000
2$3,000,000
3$2,750,000
2$1,750,000
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ANA
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Konovalov, Ilya [Reserve List]
  3. Koskinen, Mikko
  4. Russell, Kris
  5. Savoie, Carter [Reserve List]
  6. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
  7. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
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Konovalov could be very good, he projects as well as guys like Samsonov, Shesterkin and Sorokin did/do. Just don't think they can wait 3 years for him.
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: Salzy
    It isnt even a top 15 in the league prospect pool


    Bouchard, Broberg, Samarukov, Holloway, Lavoie, Savoie, McLeod are all solid prospects.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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    He’s also not a blue chip prospect.


    Oh man.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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    It’s actually not. It’s close to bottom third in the league.


    Good chat
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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    When we're talking "franchise level prospect" we're talking about Elias Pettersson or Cale Makar or Alexis LaFreniere or Dylan Cozens. I'm not sure even Cole Caufield (and as a Badger graduate, I LOVE that kid) makes the grade. That's the sort of value we'd be looking for, and their GMs aren't about to trade any of them.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    Oh man.


    Yeah oh mans right. You gotta take off the homer glasses. The athletic just rated the systems. EDM is 19th. Even if you disagree it’s not gonna change the fact that EDM is in bottom half of the league when it comes to prospect pools.
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    Bouchard, Broberg, Samarukov, Holloway, Lavoie, Savoie, McLeod are all solid prospects.


    Ottawa, LA, Carolina, Montreal, Anaheim, Minnesota, Florida, Philly, New Jersey, Colorado, Toronto, Vegas, Buffalo, Rangers, Detroit, Vancouver all have better prospect pools.

    A few solid prospects doesnt equal a full pool. Bouchard is the best and he isnt even anything special, a top 4 ceiling for sure but not enough to get Gibson
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jah1722
    Yeah oh mans right. You gotta take off the homer glasses. The athletic just rated the systems. EDM is 19th. Even if you disagree it’s not gonna change the fact that EDM is in bottom half of the league when it comes to prospect pools.


    Oh my gosh the Athletic did a ranking 🙄 Bouchard is has elite traits and so does Broberg. Holloway is lighting up the Big 10. And no he doesn't play on a line with Caufield. Those 3 alone make their prospect pool good. The others a good players who could become solid top 9 players. It's not homerism, it's just common sense. Sorry I triggered you by adding Gibson to a trade. Have a good day my friend.
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Ottawa, LA, Carolina, Montreal, Anaheim, Minnesota, Florida, Philly, New Jersey, Colorado, Toronto, Vegas, Buffalo, Rangers, Detroit, Vancouver all have better prospect pools.

    A few solid prospects doesnt equal a full pool. Bouchard is the best and he isnt even anything special, a top 4 ceiling for sure but not enough to get Gibson


    Top 4 ceiling hahahahaha
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    Oh my gosh the Athletic did a ranking 🙄 Bouchard is has elite traits and so does Broberg. Holloway is lighting up the Big 10. And no he doesn't play on a line with Caufield. Those 3 alone make their prospect pool good. The others a good players who could become solid top 9 players. It's not homerism, it's just common sense. Sorry I triggered you by adding Gibson to a trade. Have a good day my friend.


    The only one triggered here is you.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jah1722
    The only one triggered here is you.


    TRIGGERED
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    Top 4 ceiling hahahahaha


    Ah yes the hahahahaha aka im mad that youre right response tears of joy
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Ah yes the hahahahaha aka im mad that youre right response tears of joy


    You don't know anything about other teams prospects lol. Don't pretend like you do.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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    Edited Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    You don't know anything about other teams prospects lol. Don't pretend like you do.


    I do, I know alot about other teams prospects, I do alot of research and watching of all teams prospects. But yeah I know nothing because someone on the internet is upset his teams bad prospect pool cant get the most valuable goalie in the league tears of joy
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Jah1722
    Ducks don’t need 3 or 4 good pieces. They have plenty of quantity with their young players and prospects. They need quality and there isn’t any in this offer.


    Broberg is quality and so is the 1st, I agree it doesn't get it done for the Ducks but there's some good pieces in there for a base of a deal, fully aware the Ducks likely aren't trading Gibson though.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    I do, I know alot about other teams prospects, I do alot of research and watching of all teams prospects. But yeah I know nothing because a mad little kid on the internet is upset his teams bad prospect pool cant get the most valuable goalie in the league tears of joy


    I'm sure you do.
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    When we're talking "franchise level prospect" we're talking about Elias Pettersson or Cale Makar or Alexis LaFreniere or Dylan Cozens. I'm not sure even Cole Caufield (and as a Badger graduate, I LOVE that kid) makes the grade. That's the sort of value we'd be looking for, and their GMs aren't about to trade any of them.


    Fair enough
    Feb. 7, 2021 at 4:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    You don't know anything about other teams prospects lol. Don't pretend like you do.


    You have four first-class prospects (that I would be glad to have on either of my two crummy local teams): Dylan Holloway (at my alma mater), Raphael Lavoie, Evan Bouchard and Philip Broberg.

    Trevor Zegras is a better prospect than Holloway.

    Max Comtois is a better prospect than Lavoie.

    Jamie Drysdale is a better prospect than Bouchard.

    Josh Mahura is about as good a prospect as Philip Broberg.

    In addition to prospects as good or better than your four best youngsters, we have Brayden Tracey at LW, Jacob Perreault at RW, and Henry Thrun and Jackson LaCombe at LD, all of whom are rated as A prospects. And our best goalie prospect (Lukas Dostal) is also better than yours.
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    You have four first-class prospects (that I would be glad to have on either of my two crummy local teams): Dylan Holloway (at my alma mater), Raphael Lavoie, Evan Bouchard and Philip Broberg.

    Trevor Zegras is a better prospect than Holloway.

    Max Comtois is a better prospect than Lavoie.

    Jamie Drysdale is a better prospect than Bouchard.

    Josh Mahura is about as good a prospect as Philip Broberg.

    In addition to prospects as good or better than your four best youngsters, we have Brayden Tracey at LW, Jacob Perreault at RW, and Henry Thrun and Jackson LaCombe at LD, all of whom are rated as A prospects. And our best goalie prospect (Lukas Dostal) is also better than yours.


    I'd agree with most of this. Zegras is a stud and I wish the Oilers took him over Broberg.
    I don't think it's a good idea to compare players who are 2+ years apart in age as prospects though. Mahura is over 3 years older than Broberg. Who knows what Broberg will be in 3 years.
    Drysdale will be solid. I think him and Bouchard have a lot of similarities. But again, the age difference is a factor. Bouchard already played a full year in the AHL where he played great, and it's starting to translate to the NHL. Drysdale is off to a good start hopefully he can keep it up.

    But honestly who knows how these players will turn out. Especially the defensemen.
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Eberles_Backcheck
    But honestly who knows how these players will turn out. Especially the defensemen.


    . . . and the goalies!!
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    Feb. 7, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    . . . and the goalies!!


    And the goalies haha goalies are voodoo
    Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:49 a.m.
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    Haha There are certainly a couple of trolls in here. Great discussion starter Eberles_Backcheck

    Gibson with the Oilers is a dream but it's unlikely to happen, it doesn't make sense to trade a goalie that is playing that good regardless of the state of the rest of the NHL team (Not Prospects, God forbid I mention prospects that are apparently guaranteed down in Ana..) In hindsight Holland should have paid Markstrom but Chirelli pooched the Cap and, at the time, the deal Markstrom got in Calgary made me anxious. He has proved me wrong so far (especially Saturday *facepalm). Fingers crossed for some good Holland decisions next year with room.
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    Feb. 9, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.
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    The problem with this page is that fans from other team very rarely have any idea how good a teams prospect pool is and how each of those prospects project. I have very rarely ever seen a trade proposal that the fans from the other team don't over value their own players. The ducks are at least 5+ years away from becoming a serious contented again (probably more) and if a team stepped up and made an interesting offer for Gibson I'm sure they would take it.
    Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: NunyaBitness
    Haha There are certainly a couple of trolls in here. Great discussion starter Eberles_Backcheck

    Gibson with the Oilers is a dream but it's unlikely to happen, it doesn't make sense to trade a goalie that is playing that good regardless of the state of the rest of the NHL team (Not Prospects, God forbid I mention prospects that are apparently guaranteed down in Ana..) In hindsight Holland should have paid Markstrom but Chirelli pooched the Cap and, at the time, the deal Markstrom got in Calgary made me anxious. He has proved me wrong so far (especially Saturday *facepalm). Fingers crossed for some good Holland decisions next year with room.


    I hope he doesn't overpay for a guy this year in UFA. The goalie market is underwhelming, and there's not a Markstrom calibre guy this year. I don't think Binnington gets to UFA. The guys I'd look at are Raanta, Mrazek, and Driedger. Shorter term deals. I'm really intrigued by Driedger actually. He's a young guy by goalie standards (26) and his numbers are very good the last 2.5 years. If his numbers stay above average this year, he should be a guy Holland takes a long look at.
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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    Zero chance Ken Holland throws the farm at anyone for a goalie. His MO is that you can get average goaltending for below average cap and that cap spent elsewhere on the roster is better spent. He's won a bunch of Cups without having a big name goalie.
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.
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    Zero chance Ken Holland throws the farm at anyone for a goalie. His MO is that you can get average goaltending for below average cap and that cap spent elsewhere on the roster is better spent. He's won a bunch of Cups without having a big name goalie.


    I think if the right goalie (age and calibre) became available, he would look at any option. He offered Markstrom 5x7. So he knows its an area that needs to be dealt with. That being said, Konovalov looks legit, so maybe they think they can continue to find stop gaps until his arrival.

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