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Palmieri or Gusev

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Team: 2020-21 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 8, 2021
Published: Feb. 8, 2021
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One will probably be dealt by the deadline. Which would you rather keep?
My pick would be Palmieri

Palmieri:
From NJ
RW (which Devils need)
Better defensively
Better shooting
More likely to resign
Bad start to the season

Gusev:
Younger
Better playmaking
Higher ceiling
Bad start to the season
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 9:41 p.m.
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Neither sign them both (as long as they want to stay)
You know what ya got in both
A down yr is better for our wallets
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:10 p.m.
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Palmieri will be easier to sign (but cost more)
Gusev will be more likely to test free agency

For that reason, my money is on Palms as more likely staying put.
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
Neither sign them both (as long as they want to stay)
You know what ya got in both
A down yr is better for our wallets


I assume Devils would trade one and keep one (to make room for Holtz, Mercer, etc)
Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:22 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Palmieri will be easier to sign (but cost more)
Gusev will be more likely to test free agency

For that reason, my money is on Palms as more likely staying put.


Agreed but Palmieri might not be more expensive than Gusev

Palmieri around $5.5
Gusev $5-5.5
Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
I assume Devils would trade one and keep one (to make room for Holtz, Mercer, etc)


Not sure either is ready
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.
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Agreed but Palmieri might not be more expensive than Gusev

Palmieri around $5.5
Gusev $5-5.5


Pre-COVID, Palms gets Brendan Gallagher type deal. Now, 4x$6 million sounds right.

Gusev probably gets same deal he has now 2x$4.5 million.
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Pre-COVID, Palms gets Brendan Gallagher type deal. Now, 4x$6 million sounds right.

Gusev probably gets same deal he has now 2x$4.5 million.


Gusev would want and get more in the open market imo.
Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.
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Not sure either is ready


Gotta imagine Holtz will be here. Mercer would need strong camp. Foote and Thompson may have quicker path to roster.
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Smitty426
Not sure either is ready


True but thinking about it for the future (2022-23). We would have a lot of competition for that spot.
Feb. 8, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Gotta imagine Holtz will be here. Mercer would need strong camp. Foote and Thompson may have quicker path to roster.


Apparently Foote looked very good for the B-Devils today. He could maybe be called up soon
Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:06 p.m.
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Apparently Foote looked very good for the B-Devils today. He could maybe be called up soon


Yeah, wouldn’t be shocked if Foote steps into lineup soon (whenever that is- they postponed another week of games). Need him and Nico on power play. Have seen Bastin, Kuokkanen, almost everyone in that near slot.

Thompson possibly 10 game stretch in end of year.
Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.
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Yeah, wouldn’t be shocked if Foote steps into lineup soon (whenever that is- they postponed another week of games). Need him and Nico on power play. Have seen Bastin, Kuokkanen, almost everyone in that near slot.

Thompson possibly 10 game stretch in end of year.


What do you think of these PP Lines?

Hughes-Nico-Bratt
Smith-Palms

Foote-Zacha-Goose
Subban-Severson
Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.
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What do you think of these PP Lines?

Hughes-Nico-Bratt
Smith-Palms

Foote-Zacha-Goose
Subban-Severson


Johnsson?
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Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:41 p.m.
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Neither sign them both (as long as they want to stay)
You know what ya got in both
A down yr is better for our wallets


Its not the popular opinion, but Id drop both, if you could get the right return & look to sign best fit UFAs in offseason.

Maybe one of those best fit UFAs is Palms ...
Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.
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Johnsson?


Could see him instead of Sevo
Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:53 p.m.
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Its not the popular opinion, but Id drop both, if you could get the right return & look to sign best fit UFAs in offseason.

Maybe one of those best fit UFAs is Palms ...


Maybe we can sign a guy like Hall or Hoffman in FA with extra money but idk if they would want to come to Jersey
Feb. 8, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
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Agreed but Palmieri might not be more expensive than Gusev

Palmieri around $5.5
Gusev $5-5.5


Considering Dadanov got 3yr 5 mil after 3 straight seasons of almost 30g 70+ pts
and Mike Hoffman took a 1 yr 4 mil deal (after 2 35+ goal seasons (last year 29 in 66)

I would be astonished if anyone gave Gusev even close to 5mil per

My bet is he'd be more likely to fall in the Anthony Duclair or Jack Roslovic range just around 2 mil
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Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.
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Considering Dadanov got 3yr 5 mil after 3 straight seasons of almost 30g 70+ pts
and Mike Hoffman took a 1 yr 4 mil deal

I would be astonished if any gave Gusev even close to 5mil per

My bet is he'd be more likely to fall in the Anthony Duclair or Jack Roslovic range just around 2 mil


If he bounces back to normal he would make around 5. If he continues how he would make 2-3 mil like you said
Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.
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Maybe we can sign a guy like Hall or Hoffman in FA with extra money but idk if they would want to come to Jersey


We could say that about so many guys, but fact of the matter is that NJ has some exciting young talent with serious cap room in a year other teams will be tight. They could target one really solid vet and get competitive. Doubt that's what Fitz wants, but look how many wings are out there ... its a solid list. Brandon Saad? Jaden Schwartz? Coleman? Tatar? Phillip freakin Danault (move Zacha)? RNH? And on and on ... so many
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Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:25 a.m.
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I think if he stays healthy (big if), I'd prioritize resigning Murray over any other NJ UFA. He's only going to get better as the injuries drift further in the rear view ... only 27.

If he gets to market, he's gone. Not many D options this year. He will be in demand.
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