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Rebuild

Created by: Fixitf
Initial Creation Date: Feb 9, 2021
Published: Feb 9 at 2:33
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Blueger, Teddy4$3,000,000
Miletic, Sam2$750,000
Zohorna, Radim2$800,000
Jankowski, Mark2$1,000,000
Juulsen, Noah1$750,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Savoie, Carter [Reserve List]
  2. Neal, James
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Rust, Bryan
PIT
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Virtanen, Jake
  3. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Zucker, Jason
PIT
  1. Juulsen, Noah [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
PIT
  1. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Letang, Kris ($3,625,000 retained)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
PIT
  1. 2022 1st round pick (STL)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Malkin, Evgeni ($4,750,000 retained)
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (FLA)
PIT
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
TOR
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Aston-Reese, Zach [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2023 5th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Kris Letang: $3,625,000 (50%)
  • Evgeni Malkin: $4,750,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
EDM
BOS
STL
PIT
VAN
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
VAN
BOS
STL
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,151,008$0$827,500$4,348,992

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$2,550,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Poulin, Samuel
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$3,000,000
C, LW
RFA
PIT
Légaré, Nathan
$795,000
RW
RFA - 2
VAN
Eriksson, Loui
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jankowski, Mark
$1,000,000
LW, C
RFA
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 6
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 4
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Maniscalco, Joshua
$853,333
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
PIT
Miletic, Sam
$750,000 ($0)
LW, C
RFA
PIT
O'Connor, Drew
$925,000 ($0)
LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Zohorna, Radim
$800,000 ($0)
LW, RW
RFA
PIT
Angello, Anthony
$725,000 ($0)
C, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
D'Orio, Alex
$733,333 ($0)
G
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kapanen, K.
Crosby, S.
Guentzel, J.
Marino, J.
Joseph, P.
Power Play 2
Virtanen, J.
McCann, J.
Poulin, S.
Liljegren, T.
Pettersson, M.
Penalty Kill 1
Blueger, T.
Tanev, B.
Pettersson, M.
Marino, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Jankowski, M.
Poulin, S.
Joseph, P.
Maniscalco, J.

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Feb 9 at 2:35
#1
Judd Bracket ripoff
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Canucks fans may disagree but I would do that trade in a heart beat if I was Van
Feb 9 at 2:40
#2
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Trolling im assuming
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Feb 9 at 2:45
#3
Bcarlo25
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Bruins are pretty set at RD.
Feb 9 at 2:51
#4
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Two 1st rd picks for a 4th best center in StL. Seems reasonable....
Feb 9 at 2:53
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I think Rust will be good for the oilers he can play with Mcdavid.
Feb 9 at 2:55
#6
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Fixitf
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Trolling im assuming


It’s not, why do u think so?
Feb 9 at 2:56
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Fixitf
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Quoting: Riley816
Two 1st rd picks for a 4th best center in StL. Seems reasonable....


Who other than O’reilly is better than Malkin?
Feb 9 at 2:59
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Quoting: Riley816
Two 1st rd picks for a 4th best center in StL. Seems reasonable....


Is this some sort of stupid joke? Wow
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Feb 9 at 3:00
#9
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Quoting: Fixitf
Who other than O’reilly is better than Malkin?


Better than a 35 year old with 2 goals??? Schenn. Thomas. Probably Sundqvist..
Feb 9 at 3:01
#10
mokumboi
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The Blues cannot afford that, don't need any more centers and definitely need to rebuild the prospect base. So that's gonna be a no.
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Feb 9 at 4:34
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Fixitf
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Edited Feb 9 at 4:39
Quoting: Riley816
Better than a 35 year old with 2 goals??? Schenn. Thomas. Probably Sundqvist..


He has had a slow start to the year, but he is still Malkin and will most likely pick it up. He had 74 points in 55 games last year, and the blues are getting him at 50% salary.
Feb 9 at 4:50
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Quoting: Fixitf
It’s not, why do u think so?


Because every trade sucks

anyone who thinks the bruins would give up two first for Kris letang either doesnt know hockey or is trolling.
Can you tell me who the bruins current RHD are ? ill do it for you because i dont want to wait for your response which will likely be self defense.
McAvoy and Carlo (with Clifton and Miller switching off as the 3rd)...
Bruins DONT need OR WANT Letang, AND the price sucks ass

As for your other trades:
Assuming Erikkson costs a 1st to take (less about what Backes was for the bruins), Zucker will CERTAINLY not get you a 2nd and Virtanen
Dumolin for Juulson and a 2nd is a joke
STL doesnt need or want more Centers so thats wrong
and the only one that might be ok (though I think it sucks) is the oilers one (but thats MY OPINION so up to you)

The rest of it tho besides the oilers one HAS TO be a troll job
Feb 9 at 5:01
#13
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Fixitf
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Edited Feb 9 at 5:15
Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Because every trade sucks

anyone who thinks the bruins would give up two first for Kris letang either doesnt know hockey or is trolling.
Can you tell me who the bruins current RHD are ? ill do it for you because i dont want to wait for your response which will likely be self defense.
McAvoy and Carlo (with Clifton and Miller switching off as the 3rd)...
Bruins DONT need OR WANT Letang, AND the price sucks ass

As for your other trades:
Assuming Erikkson costs a 1st to take (less about what Backes was for the bruins), Zucker will CERTAINLY not get you a 2nd and Virtanen
Dumolin for Juulson and a 2nd is a joke
STL doesnt need or want more Centers so thats wrong
and the only one that might be ok (though I think it sucks) is the oilers one (but thats MY OPINION so up to you)

The rest of it tho besides the oilers one HAS TO be a troll job


It’s not trolling, I’m gonna tell you my thought process on these, but just as an FYI I’m not arguing with you. Sucker was worth Addison, galchenyuk and a 1st and while his price has gone down I would say that virtanen is as valuable as Addison, and the first is still the first you would be removing galchenuk from the deal value wise. Boston I feel would be great on the second pairing and you would just push Carlo down to the third, and Malkin I feel would be the second best center on St. Louis along with the retention. Dump is worth a little less than a first so the second is reasonable and Julsenn was just on waivers. And finally, I had the same thought process for both letang and Malkin, that the players are worth firsts and the retention plus a second is worth another first.
Feb 9 at 6:07
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Bruins laugh decline and thank you for the chuckle.

No need for a RD. At all. Even if he was a LD. Would not pay that.
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Feb 9 at 6:59
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Bruins laugh decline and thank you for the chuckle.

No need for a RD. At all. Even if he was a LD. Would not pay that.


While yes, I agree that the bruins don’t need letang, if he becomes available, he will be the best piece on the market to change the bruins from a Stanley cup contender to a Stanley cup favorite.
Feb 9 at 8:00
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Quoting: Fixitf
While yes, I agree that the bruins don’t need letang, if he becomes available, he will be the best piece on the market to change the bruins from a Stanley cup contender to a Stanley cup favorite.


Wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

They need an LD1 or a wing that can score. He is neither.
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Feb 9 at 8:15
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Edited Feb 9 at 8:25
Quoting: Gofnut999
Wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

They need an LD1 or a wing that can score. He is neither.


Ok, but I have made posts in the past where the bruins receive either zucker (a scoring winger) or dumoulin (a good LHD) and bruins fans always say that they don’t want/need them. I feel like having McAvoy, Letang, and Carlo on the right side would be amazing, and as long as McAvoy and Letang have a defensively capable player on the left side the pairing would be lights out. I do agree that the winger and LHD would be beneficial to the bruins too though.
Feb 9 at 8:59
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Quoting: Fixitf
Ok, but I have made posts in the past where the bruins receive either zucker (a scoring winger) or dumoulin (a good LHD) and bruins fans always say that they don’t want/need them. I feel like having McAvoy, Letang, and Carlo on the right side would be amazing, and as long as McAvoy and Letang have a defensively capable player on the left side the pairing would be lights out. I do agree that the winger and LHD would be beneficial to the bruins too though.


Dumolin is not a 1.

Zucker I’d take for the right price. But not the guy I really want.
Feb 9 at 8:59
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Quoting: Fixitf
Ok, but I have made posts in the past where the bruins receive either zucker (a scoring winger) or dumoulin (a good LHD) and bruins fans always say that they don’t want/need them. I feel like having McAvoy, Letang, and Carlo on the right side would be amazing, and as long as McAvoy and Letang have a defensively capable player on the left side the pairing would be lights out. I do agree that the winger and LHD would be beneficial to the bruins too though.


Dumolin is not a 1. A 15 point d man is not what they need.

Zucker I’d take for the right price. But not the guy I really want.
Feb 9 at 11:05
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Edited Feb 9 at 11:10
Quoting: Gofnut999
Dumolin is not a 1. A 15 point d man is not what they need.

Zucker I’d take for the right price. But not the guy I really want.


Quoting: Gofnut999
Dumolin is not a 1. A 15 point d man is not what they need.

Zucker I’d take for the right price. But not the guy I really want.


Quoting: Gofnut999
Dumolin is not a 1. A 15 point d man is not what they need.

Zucker I’d take for the right price. But not the guy I really want.


Quoting: Gofnut999
Dumolin is not a 1. A 15 point d man is not what they need.

Zucker I’d take for the right price. But not the guy I really want.


In my opinion, Dumoulin is a 1st pairing dman, look at his advanced stats, he is an excellent stay at home defenseman and would play great with McAvoy. He isn’t going to score many goals, but he will allow his defensive partner to play more offensively and help him get some. I know that +/- is an arguable stat, but he has a +54 which has to mean something about his defensive capabilities. I also think that Zucker’s in your face style of play would be perfect for the bruins and would be a great fit for playing with Charlie Coyle.
Feb 10 at 12:04
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Quoting: Fixitf
In my opinion, Dumoulin is a 1st pairing dman, look at his advanced stats, he is an excellent stay at home defenseman and would play great with McAvoy. He isn’t going to score many goals, but he will allow his defensive partner to play more offensively and help him get some. I know that +/- is an arguable stat, but he has a +54 which has to mean something about his defensive capabilities. I also think that Zucker’s in your face style of play would be perfect for the bruins and would be a great fit for playing with Charlie Coyle.


Agree with Zucker not Dumolin. Not that he isn’t what you say he is, not what they need. They need a 35-40 point 2way d man for LD1. If they can’t get one then go with what they have.
Feb 10 at 12:17
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Agree with Zucker not Dumolin. Not that he isn’t what you say he is, not what they need. They need a 35-40 point 2way d man for LD1. If they can’t get one then go with what they have.


Quoting: Gofnut999
Agree with Zucker not Dumolin. Not that he isn’t what you say he is, not what they need. They need a 35-40 point 2way d man for LD1. If they can’t get one then go with what they have.


I get that. Just wondering, who would you go for that may hit the market to fit that role?
Feb 10 at 12:24
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Quoting: Fixitf
I get that. Just wondering, who would you go for that may hit the market to fit that role?


Ekholm
Feb 10 at 9:55
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Quoting: Fixitf
It’s not trolling, I’m gonna tell you my thought process on these, but just as an FYI I’m not arguing with you. Sucker was worth Addison, galchenyuk and a 1st and while his price has gone down I would say that virtanen is as valuable as Addison, and the first is still the first you would be removing galchenuk from the deal value wise. Boston I feel would be great on the second pairing and you would just push Carlo down to the third, and Malkin I feel would be the second best center on St. Louis along with the retention. Dump is worth a little less than a first so the second is reasonable and Julsenn was just on waivers. And finally, I had the same thought process for both letang and Malkin, that the players are worth firsts and the retention plus a second is worth another first.


Listen I wasnt gonna comment on the others cuz I will be the first to admit that I dont know as much about some of those others guys values, but I was just going on the other comments I saw and my previous knowledge of hockey stuff.
In saying that, your analysis is still probably off with most of them, because value isnt the problem with most of them.
And the bruins one is just way off overall: value, team needs, etc...

Thats why I just assumed it was a trolljob. If not im sorry but your trades are just wrong.
 
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