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Created by: SadSensFan14
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2021
Published: Feb. 10, 2021
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Get some discussion flowing.
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Marner, Mitchell
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2022 4th round pick (TOR)
  5. 2022 5th round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Paul, Nicholas
  2. Stützle, Tim
  3. Tkachuk, Brady
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Anderson, Joey
  2. Matthews, Auston
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$69,102,408$0$5,000,000$12,397,592
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$749,250$749,250
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$874,125$874,125
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000 ($175,000$175K$175,000$175K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 2

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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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The Leafs lose both trades
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
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Flames easily decline tkachuk is way better than marner and backlund is way better than Kerfoot, a few picks doesn’t even come close to make it up the difference, garbage trade for Calgary
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Flames easily decline tkachuk is way better than marner and backlund is way better than Kerfoot, a few picks doesn’t even come close to make it up the difference, garbage trade for Calgary


I agree. Tkachuk is in the top 3 players on our team rn and would take a massive overpayment to get him
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Flames easily decline tkachuk is way better than marner and backlund is way better than Kerfoot, a few picks doesn’t even come close to make it up the difference, garbage trade for Calgary


You're, you're joking right?
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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You're, you're joking right?


Nope but I wouldn’t expect a leafs fan to understand that their players aren’t the best ever, leafs fans are delusional so no point in arguing
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.
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The Leafs are not trading Mitch Marner before William Nylander, considering Marner's production and incredible season lmao
Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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Nope but I wouldn’t expect a leafs fan to understand that their players aren’t the best ever, leafs fans are delusional so no point in arguing


Leafs fans believe Sam Bennett is worth Pierre Engvall lmao
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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The Ottawa trade is bad for both teams.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Nope but I wouldn’t expect a leafs fan to understand that their players aren’t the best ever, leafs fans are delusional so no point in arguing


3rd in league scoring means nothing obviously
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Nope but I wouldn’t expect a leafs fan to understand that their players aren’t the best ever, leafs fans are delusional so no point in arguing


Way better eh, I guess that's one person's opinion. The irony is apparently we are delusional.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: flamesfan
Nope but I wouldn’t expect a leafs fan to understand that their players aren’t the best ever, leafs fans are delusional so no point in arguing


It delusional to think Marner and Tkachuck would ever be anything more than a 1 for 1. That being said I don't see why either team has any interest in trading them. Using the whole "Leaf fans overvalue" rhetoric when we are taking about two players who are both high end players is nonsense. Marner has almost 70 more points in almost the same games played.

Saying you would prefer Tkachuck over Marner is understandable, saying he's worth Marner and a 1st is just silly.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
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The Leafs lose both trades


No they don't.Not the Ottawa trade at least.
Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Brad21
No they don't.Not the Ottawa trade at least.


Take out Anderson and the 3rd and make the 2nd a 1st and it’s maybe fine
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
It delusional to think Marner and Tkachuck would ever be anything more than a 1 for 1. That being said I don't see why either team has any interest in trading them. Using the whole "Leaf fans overvalue" rhetoric when we are taking about two players who are both high end players is nonsense. Marner has almost 70 more points in almost the same games played.

Saying you would prefer Tkachuck over Marner is understandable, saying he's worth Marner and a 1st is just silly.


I guess when he says that there is no point in arguing, it means that he has no credible evidence to back up his ridiculous claim.
Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Take out Anderson and the 3rd and make the 2nd a 1st and it’s maybe fine


Any trade in which Auston Matthews leaves the Leafs is a bad trade for the Leafs. End of story.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
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No they don't.Not the Ottawa trade at least.


Yeah they do, Matthews is so much better than any piece coming back will ever be.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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I guess when he says that there is no point in arguing, it means that he has no credible evidence to back up his ridiculous claim.


I don't mind people pointing out a personal bias and we all have one. However, when you criticize people for being bias while being insanely bias as well you just look silly.

Personally I can totally understand why some would want Tkachuck over Marner but both are terrific players.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:08 p.m.
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OTT laughs and laughs as they decline.

AM34 leaves in 3 years, or asks for a crushing contract. **** that noise.

And the 2023 1st? Just laughable.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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OTT laughs and laughs as they decline.

AM34 leaves in 3 years, or asks for a crushing contract. **** that noise.

And the 2023 1st? Just laughable.


You are exactly right and we do not need or want Matthews, especially if we are trading Stützle. This might sound bold, but I wouldn't want Matthews even if it was Matthews+Anderson for Stützle. He is untouchable. I am only interested if we aren't trading prospects and getting Sandin, Liljegren, Hyman, Spezza (I am really high on him, but I know it will never happen) or Robertson in return.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.
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Nope but I wouldn’t expect a leafs fan to understand that their players aren’t the best ever, leafs fans are delusional so no point in arguing


What a stupid thing to say. Just because some leafs fans are delusional doesn't mean all of them are. Besides, Marner is 3rd in the league in points so maybe you want to have at least some way to prove your statement? I get it, Tkachuk is a great play and if they were traded one for one would be "fair", but the difference between them is not a first round pick.

Quoting: PLDGEY
OTT laughs and laughs as they decline.

AM34 leaves in 3 years, or asks for a crushing contract. **** that noise.

And the 2023 1st? Just laughable.


That's fine and I don't disagree but leafs decline too so it's all good.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
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You are exactly right and we do not need or want Matthews, especially if we are trading Stützle. This might sound bold, but I wouldn't want Matthews even if it was Matthews+Anderson for Stützle. He is untouchable. I am only interested if we aren't trading prospects and getting Sandin, Liljegren, Hyman, Spezza (I am really high on him, but I know it will never happen) or Robertson in return.


He's not that untouchable lol. That's fine if you like him but no amount of liking him makes him worth more than Matthews. An unproven as a superstar rookie is not worth more than a probable Rocket Richard winner.
Feb. 10, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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He's not that untouchable lol. That's fine if you like him but no amount of liking him makes him worth more than Matthews. An unproven as a superstar rookie is not worth more than a probable Rocket Richard winner.


I never said he was worth more than Matthews. We're just not moving him.
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Feb. 10, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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Yeah they do, Matthews is so much better than any piece coming back will ever be.


Sure, but you’re getting back many GOOD pieces back!
Feb. 10, 2021 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Brad21
Sure, but you’re getting back many GOOD pieces back!


Doesn't matter none will be what Matthews is.
Feb. 10, 2021 at 5:52 p.m.
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Doesn't matter none will be what Matthews is.

Quit being all bias, Steutzel will be almost as good.
 
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