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Dumoulin Matheson

Created by: Chigurrhh
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 11, 2021
Published: Feb. 11, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Purpose of this trade is to clear the LD logjam the Penguins have (when healthy) while adding bottom six help. Dumoulin is the oldest LD. Matheson is the most expensive LD.

Basically using Dumoulin (who has good value) to facilitate a trade for Matheson and White, younger players who are underperforming their long-term deals.

Though they have similar contracts, Matheson is the worse deal. The idea is that Dumoulin makes up that difference. Ottawa gets a good player to provide leadership and solid play in tough minutes.

Stepan is just a throw in to make the money work for Pittsburgh and get a player for the bottom six.
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23$81,500,000$78,095,175$0$1,062,500$3,404,825
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
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$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
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$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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Feb. 11, 2021 at 6:12 a.m.
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Crazy because POJ I would cal this crazy to move Dumo, but a left side of POJ, Pettersson, and Riikola is strong still and really good and young which we need bad after this season
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Feb. 11, 2021 at 8:21 a.m.
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If we are trading a Top pair Dman like Dumo, I want Batherson, Formention, & a High pick back. But Mathy for White sounds around fair by itself
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Feb. 11, 2021 at 9:10 a.m.
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TkachukNorris79
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Quoting: Sidstick87
If we are trading a Top pair Dman like Dumo, I want Batherson, Formention, & a High pick back. But Mathy for White sounds around fair by itself


No offence, but there are much, much better defensemen that Ottawa could get for Batherson + Formenton + a high pick. Just because the pens trade Top-15 picks for above-average players, doesn't mean your above-average players are worth Top-15 picks.

Also, Ottawa is likely going to be running into a massive log jam at LD in the next 2 years... Chabot, Sanderson, Brannstrom, Wolanin, Kleven.

The OP trade value isn't that bad by any means, but White has been playing well for the past couple weeks and looks like a solid 3C/RW. I'm fine with his contract if that's the case. There's gonna be 2-3 years left on it by the time we could even run into cap issues, so don't really care to get rid of it. If he does sh*t the bed for the rest of the year, they can just buy him out at 1/3 of the cost. But I don't see that happening.

I think the pens should ride out the Matheson deal for at least the rest of the year. And losing Dumoulin would hurt them big time in the short term.
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Feb. 11, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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If we are trading a Top pair Dman like Dumo, I want Batherson, Formention, & a High pick back. But Mathy for White sounds around fair by itself


ain't that about the truth.
Feb. 11, 2021 at 10:09 a.m.
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Leafhater
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This is not good asset management of Dumo.
Feb. 11, 2021 at 10:23 a.m.
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Serf
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Ottawa doesn't want Matheson, Pettersson, or Dumoulin, as has been repeated again and again in many many ACGM threads.

This is pretty simple, Matheson has five more seasons after this season at $4.875MM cap hit, and is not better than Chabot, and will be quickly passed by Sanderson, and Ottawa is not paying Matheson $4.875MM to play 3rd pair for 5 seasons. Dumoulin's cap hit is $4.1MM for two more seasons, and is in the same position as Matheson, even though he's better than Matheson, he's not beating out Chabot, and will be passed by Sanderson. Pettersson has a cap hit of $4.025MM for four more seasons after this season, and even though he's not listed here in this trade, he's in the same position as Matheson and Dumoulin.

Here's a nice visual, if Ottawa made this trade, this off season

LD Chabot, $8MM until 27/28
LD Matheson, $4.875MM until 25/26 <--- this guy is really really bad at hockey
RD Zaitsev, $4.5MM until 23/24
LD Dumoulin, $4.1MM until 22/23
LD Brannstrom, $863K, needs a new contract in 22/23
RD Zub, RFA next season
LD Wolanin, RFA next season
RD JBrown, $1.2MM until 21/22
LD Sanderson - likely to compete for a roster spot in training camp 21/22

RD Jacob Bernard-Docker - likely to compete for a roster spot in 21/22 at some point
RD Lassi Thomson - likely to compete for a roster spot in 21/22 at some point

There's too many LD, and two need to be removed

LD Chabot, $8MM until 27/28
RD Zaitsev, $4.5MM until 23/24
LD Brannstrom, $863K, needs a new contract in 22/23
RD Zub, RFA next season
LD Wolanin, RFA next season
RD JBrown, $1.2MM until 21/22
LD Sanderson - likely to compete for a roster spot in 21/22

RD Jacob Bernard-Docker - likely to compete for a roster spot in 21/22
RD Lassi Thomson - likely to compete for a roster spot in 21/22

Fixed, Ottawa has their 7 NHL defencemen for next season already
 
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