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Time for Benning to go

Created by: eVANder
Initial Creation Date: Feb 12, 2021
Published: Feb 12 at 12:35
Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Team Explanation
There may be a max # of buyouts a team is allowed but, if not, and ownership was willing, I would have preferred this. Lol
Trades
VAN
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
VGK
  1. Schmidt, Nate
VAN
  1. Markström, Jacob
CGY
  1. Holtby, Braden
VAN
  1. Tanev, Christopher
CGY
  1. Hamonic, Travis
VAN
  1. Stecher, Troy
DET
    VAN
    1. Toffoli, Tyler
    MTL
      Buyouts
      • Ryan Spooner: $1,033,333
      • Loui Eriksson: $5,666,667
      • Sven Baertschi: $1,766,666
      • Antoine Roussel: $1,233,333
      • Jay Beagle: $1,366,667
      • Jordie Benn: $933,333
      Recapture Fees
      • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2022
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2023
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      20$81,500,000$80,131,878$1,700,000$4,750,000$1,368,122
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      VAN
      Miller, J.T.
      $5,250,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Pettersson, Elias
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 1
      MTL
      Toffoli, Tyler
      $4,250,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      VAN
      Pearson, Tanner
      $3,750,000
      LW
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Horvat, Bo
      $5,500,000
      C
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Boeser, Brock
      $5,875,000
      RW
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Höglander, Nils
      $891,667
      LW, RW
      RFA - 3
      VAN
      Gaudette, Adam
      $950,000
      C
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Virtanen, Jake
      $2,550,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Motte, Tyler
      $1,225,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Sutter, Brandon
      $4,375,000
      RW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      MacEwen, Zack
      $825,000
      C, RW
      RFA - 2
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      VAN
      Hughes, Quinn
      $916,667
      LD
      RFA - 1
      CGY
      Tanev, Christopher
      $4,500,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      CGY
      Markström, Jacob
      $6,000,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      VAN
      Edler, Alexander
      $6,000,000
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Myers, Tyler
      $6,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      VAN
      Demko, Thatcher
      $1,050,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Juolevi, Olli
      $863,333
      LD
      RFA - 1
      DET
      Stecher, Troy
      $1,700,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      VAN
      Ferland, Micheal
      $3,500,000
      LW, RW
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      Taxi Squad
      VAN
      Chatfield, Jalen
      $700,000 ($0)
      RD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Bailey, Justin
      $750,000 ($0)
      RW
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Rathbone, Jack
      $925,000 ($0)
      LD
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      DiPietro, Michael
      $811,667 ($0)
      G
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Brisebois, Guillaume
      $700,000 ($0)
      LD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Michaelis, Marc
      $700,000 ($0)
      LW, C
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Rafferty, Brogan
      $700,000 ($0)
      RD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Hawryluk, Jayce
      $800,000 ($0)
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1

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      Feb 12 at 12:41
      #1
      Joined: Apr 2019
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      Even with how this season has gone I still wouldn't have signed Markstrom or Tanev
      Wqrrior liked this.
      Feb 12 at 12:46
      #2
      Thread Starter
      Canuck
      Joined: Jul 2019
      Posts: 150
      Likes: 33
      Quoting: TheAlien
      Even with how this season has gone I still wouldn't have signed Markstrom or Tanev


      Tanev is severely underrated. They're missing him back there.
      The Marky deal is tough though, you're right. I'm fine with Holtby.
      Feb 12 at 12:50
      #3
      Lankinen for Hart
      Joined: Jul 2020
      Posts: 2,119
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      Ouch.... The Markstrom one has to hurt the most, the man is a stud rn with Calgary
      eVANder and TML_Tika liked this.
      Feb 12 at 1:04
      #4
      Wqrrior
      Joined: Feb 2019
      Posts: 7,155
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      Quoting: TheAlien
      Even with how this season has gone I still wouldn't have signed Markstrom or Tanev


      Nor would I... hurts next offseason and long term.


      Besides, watching the last two games - this is a different team the last two than the 5 before that.... shows that once the team meshes they are capable of more. Far better cap future with the IRL canucks than this build
      Feb 12 at 1:10
      #5
      theleano1
      Joined: Feb 2020
      Posts: 239
      Likes: 75
      Really think this is a coaching issue more then management this team is miles better on paper then how they are playing
      OldNYIfan liked this.
      Feb 12 at 1:28
      #6
      Joined: Feb 2020
      Posts: 1,029
      Likes: 199
      Letting Markstrom and Stecher walk was a total joke........now sitting Virtanen makes absolutely no sense even if you are trying to trade him........time for Benning and Green to go.
      Feb 12 at 1:33
      #7
      NHL Trade Inspector
      Joined: Feb 2020
      Posts: 6,893
      Likes: 2,989
      Quoting: theleano1
      Really think this is a coaching issue more then management this team is miles better on paper then how they are playing


      Benning is probs fired in the summer

      if the canucks continue to struggle under green for 2021-2022 then hes gone

      but than again hes not signed so they may move on from him
      OldNYIfan liked this.
      Feb 12 at 1:40
      #8
      First NY Then LA
      Joined: Jun 2018
      Posts: 17,340
      Likes: 8,586
      As an outsider, but someone who's familiar with your team because we're in the same division (until this season), I am quite surprised at how badly your results are. I haven't seen the team play too often, but 6 and 11 is not the record I foresaw at the beginning of the year. I thought you guys would build on your finish last year and be second or third in the Canadian division. The reason for the poor outcomes didn't dawn on me until I saw this very post: that's four significant players you lost, and the two replacements haven't made any impression yet. Something needs to happen, and soon.
      Feb 12 at 3:28
      #9
      Joined: Apr 2017
      Posts: 171
      Likes: 21
      It feels like the Canucks gave up on their 'Fluery' a.k.a. Marky for their 'Murray' a.k.a. Demko and we can see how that went. Hi, Ottawa...how ya doing?
      Feb 12 at 7:40
      #10
      Joined: Jun 2017
      Posts: 9,335
      Likes: 5,598
      Loui would be cheaper if you just sent him to Utica instead of buying him out.
      Feb 12 at 7:41
      #11
      Joined: Jun 2017
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      Quoting: Beetlejuice
      Ouch.... The Markstrom one has to hurt the most, the man is a stud rn with Calgary


      Not really though, since if the Canucks had given Markstrom what he wanted, they’d lose Demko to Seattle. If anything, not signing Markstrom was the best move Benning made this offseason.
      Feb 12 at 9:07
      #12
      Thread Starter
      Canuck
      Joined: Jul 2019
      Posts: 150
      Likes: 33
      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Loui would be cheaper if you just sent him to Utica instead of buying him out.


      It's $400,000 cheaper to send him to utica this year, yes. But next year his buyout penalty is 3.3 rather than 4.9 in utica.
      Feb 12 at 9:10
      #13
      Thread Starter
      Canuck
      Joined: Jul 2019
      Posts: 150
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      Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
      Not really though, since if the Canucks had given Markstrom what he wanted, they’d lose Demko to Seattle. If anything, not signing Markstrom was the best move Benning made this offseason.


      I hear ya but the ultimate goal is the have an elite goalie to help this team win. We don't know if Demko will ever be as good as Marky is now. We've seen glimpses but no consistency. It doesn't help that the D is a siv rn.
      Feb 12 at 9:11
      #14
      Thread Starter
      Canuck
      Joined: Jul 2019
      Posts: 150
      Likes: 33
      Quoting: Canuckel_head
      It feels like the Canucks gave up on their 'Fluery' a.k.a. Marky for their 'Murray' a.k.a. Demko and we can see how that went. Hi, Ottawa...how ya doing?


      Hate comparing Demko to murray but, yeah haha, might be right.
      Feb 12 at 9:14
      #15
      Thread Starter
      Canuck
      Joined: Jul 2019
      Posts: 150
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      Quoting: aadoyle
      Benning is probs fired in the summer

      if the canucks continue to struggle under green for 2021-2022 then hes gone

      but than again hes not signed so they may move on from him


      Benning needs to go. He's done an unreal job scouting and drafting but the bad contracts and poor asset management have hurt this team. Thanks for Brock, Petey, Huggy and Hoglander but it's time to go... Or maybe we just demote him to director of scouting.
      Feb 12 at 9:19
      #16
      Thread Starter
      Canuck
      Joined: Jul 2019
      Posts: 150
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      Quoting: TML_Tika
      Letting Markstrom and Stecher walk was a total joke........now sitting Virtanen makes absolutely no sense even if you are trying to trade him........time for Benning and Green to go.


      I like Greener, it's unfortunate his contract is up this year. There were too many changes to his D in the O season and they only had a week long training camp and only 5 practices since then to work things out. The team got worse and he hasn't had time to adjust the way they play.
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