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The Crosby talks

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2021
Published: Feb. 14, 2021
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Should we trade the future (Caulfield) or try to give something to get Pittsburg to listen. Picks, veterans, and 2 future good players. Remember, we can't just give picks and prospects, since we're at the top of the cap. So this has to be creative, yet fair for a rebuild in Pitts...
Free Agent Signings
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3$850,000
3$750,000
3$900,000
3$800,000
3$950,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Evans, Jake
  3. Mete, Victor
  4. Tatar, Tomas
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  6. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Mete and Evans are part of the rebuild; Danault to resign at an estimated 5M$/yr (3 to 4 yrs); Tatar is a piece to plug current points; and throw in 1st and 3rd rounders to help rebuild. If Crosby was the player he once was, I'd given 2 1st rounders, but he's on the down slide so he has 2 maybe 3 years to help get a cup max.
2.
MTL
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2021 4th round pick (MTL)
  3. 2021 7th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Trade Byron for cap space, Detroit get a seasoned winger, and only give up a 3rd pick but get a 4th and a 7th in return.

Mtl wins dollars, Detroit get a veteran.
Buyouts
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2021
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2022
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2023
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21$81,500,000$72,797,976$0$3,987,500$8,702,024
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 4
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$838,333$838,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
C
UFA - 3
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$753,333$753,333 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3

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Feb. 14, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.
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KFTW
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No way Pittsburgh considers this. You’re going to have to trade pieces you don’t wanna move
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.
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Keep the first round pick in the trade, and then build a completely new one. If the penguins are blowing it up, the first round pick is the only interesting piece in there.

Spoiler alert, it’ll cost Suzuki.
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.
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I dont see how you get crosby without Suzuki or atleast kk and a bunch of young stuff. I'll take byron if you pay me. but I'm not giving a 3rd. I dont hate the player but im not paying a guy in the bottom 6 that money in this market. I could get 2 of him in free agency next season.
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Keep the first round pick in the trade, and then build a completely new one. If the penguins are blowing it up, the first round pick is the only interesting piece in there.

Spoiler alert, it’ll cost Suzuki.


Not suzuki, but kotkaniemi probably

Suzuki, Romanov, Primeau are the futur of their position with montreal.

If crosby want out, the price will be lower than if he want to stay by logic
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Stop. Please... Crosby will be a Thornton is 3 years.

Stop selling the future... it's trading McDonagh for Gomez all over again... Stop.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
Not suzuki, but kotkaniemi probably

Suzuki, Romanov, Primeau are the futur of their position with montreal.

If crosby want out, the price will be lower than if he want to stay by logic


No, Suzuki. The penguins are likely very happy to let their legend retire a penguin. There’s no indication that Crosby wants out.

No Suzuki, no Crosby. Amazingly, the rest of the league doesn’t exist to benefit the habs. Need to make a case for Pittsburgh being happy with the trade too.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Keep the first round pick in the trade, and then build a completely new one. If the penguins are blowing it up, the first round pick is the only interesting piece in there.

Spoiler alert, it’ll cost Suzuki.


I'm guessing Pitts will ask the moon from all teams, but won't get it. Plus, while Suzuki is a great player, he's not the type to build around. They'll need to take in some cap money back from whoever they trade with.

Avs may trade with Pitts, but they have expensive players that are at the end of the line else they get rid of their core players which makes no sense. Tatar is a filler here, Danault can help until they are back on track with a solid 2nd line center, Mete and Evans fill in long term help in the third line and 2nd pairing.

But That's just my view.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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There are no Crosby talks.

It’s all just speculation and conjecture.

He is not being shopped or discussed.

It would take something you are not willing to part with to do it.

There will come a time when they might have to consider it. But it isn’t now.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
Not suzuki, but kotkaniemi probably

Suzuki, Romanov, Primeau are the futur of their position with montreal.

If crosby want out, the price will be lower than if he want to stay by logic


Crosby basically said if he left it’d be to help rebuild the team, he wouldn’t put them in a position to take pennies in the dollar
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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You forgot to take Nielsen and dekeyser back to Montreal in that horrible the guy just got waived and could be had for free trade cracker jack
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
No, Suzuki. The penguins are likely very happy to let their legend retire a penguin. There’s no indication that Crosby wants out.

No Suzuki, no Crosby. Amazingly, the rest of the league doesn’t exist to benefit the habs. Need to make a case for Pittsburgh being happy with the trade too.


I said IF, huge IF, IMO crosby stay to teach young futur core for Pittsburgh.

But are saying that kk as no value?? Why spit on kk??
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Stop. Please... Crosby will be a Thornton is 3 years.

Stop selling the future... it's trading McDonagh for Gomez all over again... Stop.


I know, hence why no Suzuki, Kk or Ghule in the trade. Evans and Mete are very good players that can help, with Danault and Tatar you provide a solid 2nd line help Pitts, Tatar may leave next year or stay for a lower cost. With the number of picks Habs have in the next draft, they can give the 1st to get Crosby.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: SuspendedAgain
There are no Crosby talks.

It’s all just speculation and conjecture.

He is not being shopped or discussed.

It would take something you are not willing to part with to do it.

There will come a time when they might have to consider it. But it isn’t now.


Well.... That's what these armchair GMs post are about... Those speculations...
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.
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I said IF, huge IF, IMO crosby stay to teach young futur core for Pittsburgh.

But are saying that kk as no value?? Why spit on kk??


How could you possibly take what i said and turn it into that? Holy crap dude. Be better.
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
Crosby basically said if he left it’d be to help rebuild the team, he wouldn’t put them in a position to take pennies in the dollar


Kotkaniemi is a pennie????🤨🤨🤨
Suzuki, romanov, primeau are untouchable period.
Kotkaniemi + picks +++ others to balance (not byron alike)
Are not necessarily pennies.

Just to repeat myself: IMO crosby stay to teach young futur core for Pittsburgh. Period

Crosby a legend and will stay in Pittsburgh IMO
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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How could you possibly take what i said and turn it into that? Holy crap dude. Be better.


Because you show no consideration to KK , we both need to be better,
I agreed i can choose better words to express my opinion,
But be open to discuss about ideas that others people bring on this forum.

Choose a better way to say No suzuki no crosby, be open to discuss
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.
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Because you show no consideration to KK , we both need to be better,
I agreed i can choose better words to express my opinion,
But be open to discuss about ideas that others people bring on this forum.

Choose a better way to say No suzuki no crosby, be open to discuss


You just took a ridiculous angle. I didn’t mention KK and you start ranting and raving about how I’m spitting on him?

No, I’m not going to choose a better way of saying that.

If the Habs want to trade for Crosby, they would have to send Suzuki in return.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
I dont see how you get crosby without Suzuki or atleast kk and a bunch of young stuff. I'll take byron if you pay me. but I'm not giving a 3rd. I dont hate the player but im not paying a guy in the bottom 6 that money in this market. I could get 2 of him in free agency next season.


I agree!
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
You just took a ridiculous angle. I didn’t mention KK and you start ranting and raving about how I’m spitting on him?

No, I’m not going to choose a better way of saying that.

If the Habs want to trade for Crosby, they would have to send Suzuki in return.


I ask you about KK
Why not KK explain yourself,
Feb. 14, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
I ask you about KK
Why not KK explain yourself,


KK is good. He has value. Never said he didn’t. Never mentioned him.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.
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No way a rebuilding team gives up a 3rd for a 31yr old bottom 6 winger. Have you read any other Montreal ACGMs lately. There were a couple from yesterday hoping someone will claim Bryon off waivers because Byron just doesn't have much value to another team.
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Feb. 14, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
KK is good. He has value. Never said he didn’t. Never mentioned him.


So you don’t want him even if he as value?
Feb. 14, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
So you don’t want him even if he as value?


Never said I (Pittsburgh, I have no personal value for these players) wouldn’t want him.

Never mentioned him.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Never said I (Pittsburgh, I have no personal value for these players) wouldn’t want him.

Never mentioned him.


So you say Pittsburgh wouldn’t want him; why? He’s a young center with great potential
Feb. 14, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: CeceHuey
So you say Pittsburgh wouldn’t want him; why? He’s a young center with great potential


I’ll give you 10 billion dollars if you could show me where i said Pittsburgh wouldn’t want him.
 
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