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Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2021
Published: Feb. 14, 2021
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ANA
    2nd round pick 2021
    Cdnt’l 2nd round pick 2022
    Niku
    2.
    CHI
      Poolman
      2nd round pick 2021
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      EDM
        1st round pick
        4.
        NJD
          1st round pick 2021
          Perreault
          Chisholm
          5.
          WPG
          1. Pulock, Ryan
          2. 2021 4th round pick (NYI)
          NYI
            1st round pick 2021
            Pionk
            Perreault
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            CAR
              1st round pick 2021
              4th round pick 2023
              Perreault
              Samberg
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              CAR
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                Conditional 2nd round pick in 2022. Becomes a 2nd if Hamilton re signs in Winnipeg. If not Carolina receives 3rd rounder
                Samberg
                Perreault
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                $5,000,000$5,000,000
                C
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                $750,000$750,000
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                $2,280,000$2,280,000
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                G
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                $700,000$700,000
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                LD
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                G
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                RD
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                RD
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                RD
                UFA - 1
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                RD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 4
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                $4,025,000$4,025,000
                RD
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                $5,000,000$5,000,000
                RD
                UFA - 2
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                $4,166,666$4,166,666
                RD
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                Taxi Squad
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                $817,500$817,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                LW, C
                RFA - 2
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                $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
                RD
                UFA - 2
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                $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
                C, LW
                UFA - 1

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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.
                #26
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                Edited Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.
                Quoting: Bcarlo25
                Everything has to be in the right context. In the context of trading for pulock, ya, that offer is dirt. Pionk and a first for some lesser d man might however be an overpay.

                Now, as for pionk. The player has pretty significant flaws. We all know that. We all know he isn’t even a number two, let alone a premiere number two. I’ll give you a high end four.

                I can’t find a record of pionk scoring 50 points in any league. Not the NHL, not the AHL, not the NCAA, and not the USHL. 50 point d man huh?


                He scored 45 in 71 games last year on pace for 52. And what flaws does he have that are so glaring? He skates well, good vision in the ice, can move the puck very well, only deficiency is that he’s on the smaller side as he weighs 185lbs. And as for number 2 I was referring to second pairing.

                What’s a realistic trade for pulock from Winnipeg then. Genuinely curious
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:40 p.m.
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                Pulock and Severson deals - not nearly enough
                Pesce - too much
                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
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                Quoting: KPasty
                He scored 45 in 71 games last year on pace for 52. And what flaws does he have that are so glaring? He skates well, good vision in the ice, can move the puck very well, only deficiency is that he’s on the smaller side as he weighs 185lbs. And as for number 2 I was referring to second pairing.

                What’s a realistic trade formpulock from Winnipeg then. Genuinely curious


                Idk, Scheifele or Connor. Something like that.

                Btw everyone else in the world refers to a number 2 defensemen as, you know, a number 2 defensemen. Second pair means second pair. Pionk is not good in his own end. I don’t watch enough jets games to say he’s horrible defensively, but he’s looked pretty bad when I’ve seen him.

                The islanders made it to the ECF last season. They clearly want to compete now. Pulock is probably their second most important player. Blow them out of the water, or move on.
                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.
                #29
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                Quoting: aadoyle
                RD what the jets need is a top 4 LD


                No they don't, they need a RHD to play with Morrissey, they're flush with LHD and have a ton of LHD prospects.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.
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                Quoting: aadoyle
                other than Morrisey, Forbort nor Beaulieu is a top 4 guy , Samberg aint ready, Heinola to,RD they are set with Demelo and Pionk for now. Jets can always draft a RD as


                I’ll agree that forbort and Beaulieu arent ideal 2nd pairing guys. But forbort was doughtys partner for a couple seasons and him and Pionk have been a solid pairing together this year. Both have decent offensive numbers and are both positive +/- this season. The top RHD idea more stems from Morrissey lacking that big RHD that he succeeded so well with Trouba. Poolman and demelo just aren’t ideal fits while Pionk and forbort are more than capable for the 2nd pairing
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:45 p.m.
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                Quoting: Bcarlo25
                Idk, Scheifele or Connor. Something like that.

                Btw everyone else in the world refers to a number 2 defensemen as, you know, a number 2 defensemen. Second pair means second pair. Pionk is not good in his own end. I don’t watch enough jets games to say he’s horrible defensively, but he’s looked pretty bad when I’ve seen him.

                The islanders made it to the ECF last season. They clearly want to compete now. Pulock is probably their second most important player. Blow them out of the water, or move on.


                Pionk is great defensively, he's just too light.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:46 p.m.
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                Quoting: MisstheWhalers
                Pionk is great defensively, he's just too light.


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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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                Quoting: BenjaminWalder
                All those LD suck ngl


                No they don't.. Lol
                Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about.
                Feb. 14, 2021 at 6:53 p.m.
                #34
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                Quoting: aadoyle
                other than Morrisey, Forbort nor Beaulieu is a top 4 guy , Samberg aint ready, Heinola to,RD they are set with Demelo and Pionk for now. Jets can always draft a RD as


                Need a top 4 RHD now, DeMelo is really overrated by the fancy stat crowd and Forbort has been solid, need a RHD to pair with Morrissey, have more then enough LHD.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:09 p.m.
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                Quoting: OldNYIfan
                I don't think that's close to the value for Pesce or Pulock. In fact, I'd be shocked if either of those guys was available at all.


                Quoting: Devil1122
                Devils aren't trying to Severson now unless it's a big offer they can't refuse


                That's just it, can make trade suggestions all day long but even with overpays I just don't see these guys being available, Pesce, Pulock and Severson just aren't available.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:10 p.m.
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                Quoting: MisstheWhalers
                That's just it, can make trade suggestions all day long but even with overpays I just don't see these guys being available, Pesce, Pulock and Severson just aren't available.


                Prediction: If/when we fall out of contention, Josh Manson will be available, cheap.

                Whether you'd want him is an entirely different question.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
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                Quoting: OldNYIfan
                Prediction: If/when we fall out of contention, Josh Manson will be available, cheap.

                Whether you'd want him is an entirely different question.


                Could see that being possible and depending on the ask I could see Chevy being interested, Manson has some trade protection though doesn't he so that probably gets in the way of a trade to Winnipeg.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.
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                Quoting: MisstheWhalers
                Could see that being possible and depending on the ask I could see Chevy being interested, Manson has some trade protection though doesn't he so that probably gets in the way of a trade to Winnipeg.


                On this list, Manson is the one I would go after as Pulock, Severson, Pesce, and Hamilton are going to be too much and not available. Ristolainen should be considered. And yes it is the right side that needs an upgrade this year.
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
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                Quoting: Wpgman
                On this list, Manson is the one I would go after as Pulock, Severson, Pesce, and Hamilton are going to be too much and not available. Ristolainen should be considered. And yes it is the right side that needs an upgrade this year.


                I'd prefer one of C.Murphy or Ristolainen at the right price over Manson but any of the three would be an improvement over any of the internal options the Jets have, Manson has a 12 team no trade list so that could be an issue if the Ducks had any interest in dealing him though.
                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.
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                Quoting: MisstheWhalers
                I'd prefer one of C.Murphy or Ristolainen at the right price over Manson but any of the three would be an improvement over any of the internal options the Jets have, Manson has a 12 team no trade list so that could be an issue if the Ducks had any interest in dealing him though.


                Only reason I think maybe Winnipeg gets approved is that his dad played in Winnipeg and he spent time here as a kid? But who’s knows
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                Feb. 14, 2021 at 7:49 p.m.
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                Quoting: KPasty
                Only reason I think maybe Winnipeg gets approved is that his dad played in Winnipeg and he spent time here as a kid? But who’s knows


                Yeah I know, pretty sure the guy wants to stay in Anaheim or California at least though, thought I read/heard somewhere his wife is from Anaheim, if so I'm sure he'd block a deal to Winnipeg but as you said who knows, Risto and C.Murphy have no trade protection for what it's worth.
                Feb. 15, 2021 at 2:04 a.m.
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                Of these trade ideas, I like the NJD one the best, if RD is the actual greatest need.
                Feb. 15, 2021 at 10:12 a.m.
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                Quoting: KPasty
                I think he’s got value especially with his contract. My only concern with him in Winnipeg is can he be a top line guy who can play with Morrissey or Heinola when he’s ready. This is what the Jets really need right now, big top pairing RHD who can run a PP. not sure mayfield is that guy.


                He very much would not be that guy lol
                Feb. 15, 2021 at 11:03 a.m.
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                Isles say no. Dobson has been fantastic but he hasn't reached Pulock level yet. If he did, I'd do something around Pionk+ for Pulock so the Isles can save cap. What we really need is a left-handed defenseman to play with Dobson now.
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                Feb. 16, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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                Quoting: FullSend
                Larsson’s value is more along the lines of a conditional 2nd if he resigns and a decent roster player. He’s a solid PK and aggressive top 4 Dman, but his play could get choppy against others top lines. I’ll be surprised if he could get a first, virtually no offense coming from him and astonished that he has 2 goals so far.


                Sounds like he's got the value of a 3rd rounder
                Feb. 16, 2021 at 10:52 a.m.
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                Quoting: slapshot723
                Isles say no. Dobson has been fantastic but he hasn't reached Pulock level yet. If he did, I'd do something around Pionk+ for Pulock so the Isles can save cap. What we really need is a left-handed defenseman to play with Dobson now.


                A little radical, but Pulock for Morrissey 1for1? The big idea is that they'd acquire Pulock to pair with Morrissey but with Heinola in waiting. Pulock could be his long term partner??
                Feb. 16, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.
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                Quoting: KPasty
                A little radical, but Pulock for Morrissey 1for1? The big idea is that they'd acquire Pulock to pair with Morrissey but with Heinola in waiting. Pulock could be his long term partner??


                Nah, doesn't seem worth it for NYI. I think Morrissey is a great defenseman, but we need Pulock.
                 
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