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Defense master plan Who accepts and who doesnt

Created by: CEO
Initial Creation Date: Feb 14, 2021
Published: Feb 15 at 3:16
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Team Explanation
Ever since he was traded, Tanner Pearson leads all the Canucks in scoring. He is criminally underrated, and deserves an extension. Acquiring Stephenson and signing Podkolzin will make one of the best third lines in the league. Reuniting the McNabb-Schmidt pairing will give the Canucks one of the best all round defensive pairings in the league. Simek will be a good partner for Hughes, and could help our defensive struggles greatly.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Podkolzin, Vasily3$925,000
Persson, Viktor3$750,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Elias2$8,000,000
Hughes, Quinn2$7,500,000
Bailey, Justin2$750,000
Kielly, Jake2$950,000
Hawryluk, Jayce3$950,000
Lind, Kole3$900,000
Rafferty, Brogan1$800,000
Michaelis, Marc1$750,000
Brisebois, Guillaume1$780,000
Demko, Thatcher1$4,000,000
Juolevi, Olli2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pearson, Tanner4$4,750,000
Rittich, David3$2,250,000
Trades
VAN
  1. McNabb, Brayden
  2. Stephenson, Chandler
Additional Details:
Trade deadline 2021 3 way deal. Buffalo sends Hall 50% retained to Vancouver. Vancouver retains a further 50%, and sends Hall to Vegas for a 2m cap hit. We also send them Edler 50% retained. Vegas sends a 2022 first round pick and
New Jersey's 2021 2nd to Buffalo. They send Chandler Stephenson and Breydon McNabb to Vancouver, who then send Adam Gaudette and Jalen Chatfield to Buffalo.

Buffalo:
- Hall 50% retained
+Gaudette, Chatfield, NJs 2021 2nd, and 2022 First.

Vancouver:
- (2m Caphit for Hall), Gaudette, Edler, Chatfield
+Stephenson, McNabb

Vegas:
-2022 First, Stephenson, McNabb
+Hall at 2m, Edler 50% retained,
VGK
  1. Chatfield, Jalen [RFA Rights]
  2. Gaudette, Adam [RFA Rights]
VAN
  1. Simek, Radim
Additional Details:
Karlsson and Vlasic have NMCs, so the Sharks have to surrender Simek or Holtby to the Kraken. We have Demko, so we must lose Holtby. Instead of losing these players, we can just swap them.
SJS
  1. Holtby, Braden
  2. 2021 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
    Seattle.
    Protection list:

    Forwards:
    Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Horvat, Pearson (resigned) Motte, Roussel. (Hoglander is exempt. I'd save Roussel over Virtanen any day)

    Defenseman:
    Simek, McNabb, Schmidt (Hughes is exempt)

    Goalie:
    Demko

    Seattle opts to take Jake rather than Myers.
    SJS
    1. Virtanen, Jake
    VAN
      DET
      1. Eriksson, Loui ($3,000,000 retained)
      2. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
      Retained Salary Transactions
      • Loui Eriksson: $3,000,000 (50%)
      Recapture Fees
      • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2022
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2023
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$81,500,000$81,201,879$0$1,050,000$298,121

      Roster

      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      VAN
      Miller, J.T.
      $5,250,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Pettersson, Elias
      $8,000,000
      C
      RFA
      VAN
      Boeser, Brock
      $5,875,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Pearson, Tanner
      $4,750,000
      LW
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Horvat, Bo
      $5,500,000
      C
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Höglander, Nils
      $891,667
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Motte, Tyler
      $1,225,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      VGK
      Stephenson, Chandler
      $2,750,000
      LW, C
      UFA - 3
      VAN
      Podkolzin, Vasily
      $925,000
      RW
      RFA
      VAN
      Roussel, Antoine
      $3,000,000
      LW
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Beagle, Jay
      $3,000,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      MacEwen, Zack
      $825,000
      C, RW
      RFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      VGK
      McNabb, Brayden
      $2,500,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Schmidt, Nate
      $5,950,000
      LD/RD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      VAN
      Demko, Thatcher
      $4,000,000
      G
      UFA - 5
      VAN
      Hughes, Quinn
      $7,500,000
      LD
      RFA
      SJS
      Simek, Radim
      $2,250,000
      LD
      UFA - 3
      Rittich, David
      $2,250,000
      G
      UFA
      VAN
      Juolevi, Olli
      $1,000,000
      LD
      RFA
      VAN
      Myers, Tyler
      $6,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      VAN
      Rathbone, Jack
      $925,000
      LD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Ferland, Micheal
      $3,500,000
      LW, RW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Rafferty, Brogan
      $800,000
      RD
      UFA

      Special Teams

      Power Play 1
      Miller, J.
      Pettersson, E.
      Boeser, B.
      Hughes, Q.
      Horvat, B.
      Power Play 2
      Pearson, T.
      Stephenson, C.
      Podkolzin, V.
      Schmidt, N.
      Höglander, N.
      Penalty Kill 1
      Roussel, A.
      Motte, T.
      McNabb, B.
      Schmidt, N.
      Penalty Kill 2
      MacEwen, Z.
      Beagle, J.
      Juolevi, O.
      Myers, T.

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      Feb 15 at 3:19
      #1
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      All teams decline IMO.

      Kings would probably take on LE without retention, but I'm sure they'd want a 2021 first instead of a 2022.
      Feb 15 at 3:19
      #2
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      VAN needs more compensation in that 3-way trade

      I can't imagine any scenario where SJS trades for Holtby... and that Demko contract is a big mistake. He may sign a 1 year deal, but that aav is waaaaay too high. He should get something like 2 x $2m or something (if he even makes that much $$) -- he's really only looked good in those 4 playoff games last season. He hasn't shown me anything to this point that would make me want to invest heavily into him.
      Feb 15 at 3:36
      #3
      VGKNation702
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      Why is VGK gonna get rid of Stephenson....he’s played outstanding
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      Feb 15 at 3:46
      #4
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      Vegas absolutely declines.

      Why would they pay Edler 500 K more for one season when they have McNabb for two. And both will be playing 1LD with Petro.

      Then trade the guy who they have playing 1C and a first round pick for a winger that will be on their second if not third line.

      And they have that 1C under a cheap deal for three more years

      I know people don’t get him playing there, but he does fit with it two wingers he has in stone and Pacioretty
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      Feb 15 at 4:22
      #5
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      Simek is quite literally one of the last guys we should be trading at this point. And even if we were trading him that’s not the return we’d be looking for at all.
      Feb 15 at 4:27
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      Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
      Simek is quite literally one of the last guys we should be trading at this point. And even if we were trading him that’s not the return we’d be looking for at all.


      So you'd rather lose Burns in the draft
      Feb 15 at 4:32
      #7
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      Quoting: CEO
      So you'd rather lose Burns in the draft


      Yes, absolutely. Love the man but we needs the cap space and he’s redundant with Karlsson here as well. That’s assuming Seattle takes him though which is far from inevitable.
      Feb 15 at 4:35
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      Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
      Yes, absolutely. Love the man but we needs the cap space and he’s redundant with Karlsson here as well. That’s assuming Seattle takes him though which is far from inevitable.


      If u expose Burns, don't give yourself the hope that they pick Marcus Sorensen
      Feb 15 at 4:59
      #9
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      Quoting: CEO
      If u expose Burns, don't give yourself the hope that they pick Marcus Sorensen


      The best case scenario would be SEA taking Burns lol. I would be more disappointed if they took Sorensen or some other player.
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      Feb 15 at 5:06
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      Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
      The best case scenario would be SEA taking Burns lol. I would be more disappointed if they took Sorensen or some other player.


      Lol I'm surprised you people aren't more desperate to get rid of Vlasic one way or another
      Feb 15 at 5:14
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      I don’t see VGK wanting to move Stephenson at all.

      Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
      All teams decline IMO.

      Kings would probably take on LE without retention, but I'm sure they'd want a 2021 first instead of a 2022.


      Detroit would easily take LE for a 2022 1st without retention. Yzerman picked up the tab of Staal for slightly less actual cash for a second so this would be a slam dunk and we also need to add cap anyway.
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      Feb 15 at 5:21
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      Quoting: BStinson
      I don’t see VGK wanting to move Stephenson at all.



      Detroit would easily take LE for a 2022 1st without retention. Yzerman picked up the tab of Staal for slightly less actual cash for a second so this would be a slam dunk and we also need to add cap anyway.


      Why wouldn't they want a 2021 1st?
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      Feb 15 at 5:34
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      Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
      Why wouldn't they want a 2021 1st?


      Because it might be a lottery pick. Now Detroit would obviously take it but Vancouver wouldn't want to give it up and a non lottery 1st is fair for a year of LE.
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      Feb 15 at 5:34
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      Quoting: aedoran
      Because it might be a lottery pick.


      No its not lol
      Feb 15 at 5:48
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      Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
      Why wouldn't they want a 2021 1st?

      They’d take either. If someone offered me a choice between the two though I’m going 2022 as I like not only the top end much better but the depth throughout the first two rounds. Assuming same overall pick.

      There are some interesting mid to late round projected first rounders though for 2021. For instance, using EP’s ranking 15-32 OVR, Olausson (15), Sillinger (18), Lambos (21), Pastujov (30). I think the biggest head scratcher for me is Lambos at 21.
      Feb 15 at 5:50
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      Quoting: BStinson
      They’d take either. If someone offered me a choice between the two though I’m going 2022 as I like not only the top end much better but the depth throughout the first two rounds. Assuming same overall pick.

      There are some interesting mid to late round projected first rounders though for 2021. For instance, using EP’s ranking 15-32 OVR, Olausson (15), Sillinger (18), Lambos (21), Pastujov (30). I think the biggest head scratcher for me is Lambos at 21.


      How many times do the rankings not work out the way they are projected on draft day? Almost every draft, the ranking go out the window after the top 3 picks. Lambos will go around 7-10 IMO.
      Feb 15 at 5:56
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      Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
      How many times do the rankings not work out the way they are projected on draft day? Almost every draft, the ranking go out the window after the top 3 picks. Lambos will go around 7-10 IMO.

      I just picked an arbitrary free site for their rankings which is why I even said Lambos is a head scratcher. I could do the same for all of the sites and a lots going to change now to draft time. The main point is that a first rounder is coming back regardless of the year.
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      Feb 15 at 5:57
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      Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
      No its not lol


      So you think Vancouver makes the playoffs?
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      Feb 15 at 6:27
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      Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
      Vegas absolutely declines.

      Why would they pay Edler 500 K more for one season when they have McNabb for two. And both will be playing 1LD with Petro.

      Then trade the guy who they have playing 1C and a first round pick for a winger that will be on their second if not third line.

      And they have that 1C under a cheap deal for three more years

      I know people don’t get him playing there, but he does fit with it two wingers he has in stone and Pacioretty


      Vegas declines easily and I'm happy with his play but Stephenson is in no way a 1C. It's even kind of disingenuous to say he plays that role for us, he doesn't in the sense everyone thinks about it.

      He is in the position that many good third liners have found themselves in over the years where they are the third forward (usually its a winger, not a center) thrown in with two tremendous linemates that help them look like they are a top six forward.

      Stone drives that line offensively and defensively like a 1C everyone thinks of would and Pacioretty is an elite creative and goal scoring player who also carries a lot of the weight. Of course Stephenson fits with Pacioretty and Stone, any center who is even decent will look great with those two playing how they have been.

      It also doesn't hurt that they need Glass to help stabilize the line with Roy and Tuch to give us three dangerous lines, and he is.
      Feb 15 at 7:04
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      Quoting: Vegan_Knight
      Vegas declines easily and I'm happy with his play but Stephenson is in no way a 1C. It's even kind of disingenuous to say he plays that role for us, he doesn't in the sense everyone thinks about it.

      He is in the position that many good third liners have found themselves in over the years where they are the third forward (usually its a winger, not a center) thrown in with two tremendous linemates that help them look like they are a top six forward.

      Stone drives that line offensively and defensively like a 1C everyone thinks of would and Pacioretty is an elite creative and goal scoring player who also carries a lot of the weight. Of course Stephenson fits with Pacioretty and Stone, any center who is even decent will look great with those two playing how they have been.

      It also doesn't hurt that they need Glass to help stabilize the line with Roy and Tuch to give us three dangerous lines, and he is.


      I agree he’s not a true number one center. My point was though they aren’t going to trade the guy they have playing there for another winger

      That is the one area they need to upgrade in this season I believe. But I am willing to give glass a chance there too. But I see that more of the next season thing
       
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