Unrealistic Garland Trades

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Created by: desertdog111

Team: 2020-21 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 15, 2021

Published: Feb. 15, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I’ve seen fans of these 3 teams make proposals for Garland fairly often on this website, and they’re all terrible. You are not getting a ppg player for a 3rd liner and a middling prospect. I am not exaggerating when I say that Garland is the best player that the Coyotes have put on the ice since they went to the conference finals in 2012. He is on a rockstar contract and with a ton of money coming off the books the coyotes will have no problem signing him to a bigger deal next year.

Now to the trades. You’ll notice I titled this post UNrealistic trades for Garland because that’s the point. The Coyotes will only trade him for a massive overpay. So save the comments about how unfair it is because that is literally the point. None of the trades will ever happen because of the asset cost to the trading team, and Coyotes will not accept anything less.

Trades

ARI

Amirov, Rodion [Reserve List]
Hyman, Zach
Sandin, Rasmus
2021 1st round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

I’d be pissed if the coyotes made this deal. Toronto has the least appealing pieces that would even be conceivably available

TOR

Garland, Conor

ARI

Marino, John
McCann, Jared
Poulin, Samuel
2022 3rd round pick (PIT)

PIT

2021 4th round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Garland

ARI

Bouchard, Evan
Puljujärvi, Jesse
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Garland

Buyouts

Michael Grabner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
29	$81,500,000	$86,796,951	$196,951	$3,100,000	-$5,296,951

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Crouse, Lawson $1,533,333$1,533,333 LW, RW UFA - 2	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 6	Keller, Clayton $7,150,000$7,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 8
Brassard, Derick $1,000,000$1,000,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 5	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000$6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
	Larsson, Johan $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Pitlick, Tyler $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 2
Hunt, Dryden $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Hayton, Barrett $894,167$894,167 ($1,750,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 2	Fischer, Christian $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Hayden, John $750,000$750,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW UFA - 2
McCann, Jared $2,940,000$2,940,000 C, LW UFA - 2
Poulin, Samuel $894,167$894,167 C, LW RFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Demers, Jason $3,937,500$3,937,500 RD UFA - 1	Kuemper, Darcy $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 2
Goligoski, Alex $5,475,000$5,475,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Lyubushkin, Ilya $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Raanta, Antti $4,250,000$4,250,000 G UFA - 1
Hjalmarsson, Niklas $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 1		Hill, Adin $800,000$800,000 G UFA - 1
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 5
Oesterle, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2
Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1
Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) RD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Hossa, Marián $5,275,000$5,275,000 RW NMC UFA - 1
	Caggiula, Drake $700,000$700,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Capobianco, Kyle $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 2
Gross, Jordan $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1
Fasching, Hudson $737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0) RW UFA - 1
Ness, Aaron $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1
Gauthier, Frédérik $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Chaput, Michael $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1

Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.

Wqrrior

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I mean, you are right that a lot of trades for Garland on here are absolutely terrible.... but these are the opposite extreme. These all demand too much except for potentially the oilers trade, but the chances they make the trade are slim to none.

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.

justaBoss

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The 4th round pick going to Pens in this exchange is truly a game changer.

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.

Tarlam01

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I remember seen this guy play in Moncton a couple years ago. He destroyed the Q in his last 2 years getting like 250 pts. He carried Moncton to the top even without a really good lineup wth him... I picked him on my pool as like a last pick/chance and everyone was like wth is this guy. It pays off so far...

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.

Ryminister_27

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Wow. The amount of overhype Garland gets on this site is unreal. He's good, yes. But these prices are insane.

Try again.

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.

desertdog111

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Quoting: Wqrrior

Thats the point. It would take so much to even get the coyotes to consider dealing him. I had someone on here tell me that Kerfoot and Dermott plus a 4th would be a deal the coyotes “would be stupid to refuse”.

I get that this is an annoying post but it annoys me to see the blind stupidity that this site breeds sometimes.

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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I am all for a price correction on Garland...but we may be over-correcting a bit here.

I'd say closer to...

TOR- Sandin, Amirov
PIT- Marino, Pouiln
EDM- Bouchard, 2nd

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.

desertdog111

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

Wow. The amount of overhype Garland gets on this site is unreal. He's good, yes. But these prices are insane.

Try again.

Again, that’s the point of this post. The point was not to make a deal, it serves as a reality check to people trading peanuts for the Coyotes best player

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.

desertdog111

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I am all for a price correction on Garland...but we may be over-correcting a bit here.

I'd say closer to...

TOR- Sandin, Amirov
PIT- Marino, Pouiln
EDM- Bouchard, 2nd

As a fan I’d be upset if they didn’t get more, but those are at least realistic. I’m definitely seeing through rose colored glasses when I think about his value, but I’m not exaggerating when I say that he’s the best player the coyotes have had in a decade

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.

Tarlam01

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Quoting: Tarlam01

It was like Chabot (STJ) vs Girard and Beauvillier (SHA) vs Garland (MON)

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.

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If you say Amirov and Sandin aren’t good prospects and Hyman isn’t a good player then you don’t watch the leafs. Sandin is a future top 4 Dman , Hyman is one the best players in the corners and Amirov looks like a future Mark Stone type player,

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.

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Pensfan22

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No thx from pit

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.

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desertdog111

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Quoting: Leafs_fan13

I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not well-versed in Toronto’s prospects. All I’m saying is given the choice I’d rather have the sure thing ppg player on a great contract than 2 wild cards and a player that has spent most of his career being centered by Matthews.

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.

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Quoting: desertdog111

He will be a popular "offer-sheet" fantasy for teams this summer. I'm guessing their will be countless "1 second round pick" offers.

Quoting: Leafs_fan13

The title of the thread was 'unrealistic trades'...but the point is valid one that Garland is one of the most underrated players in ACGM posts.

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.

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desertdog111

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

He will be a popular "offer-sheet" fantasy for teams this summer. I'm guessing their will be countless "1 second round pick" offers.

Remind me not to come on this website this off-season. I’ll lose my goddamn mind

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:26 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

He will be a popular "offer-sheet" fantasy for teams this summer. I'm guessing their will be countless "1 second round pick" offers.

The title of the thread was 'unrealistic trades'...but the point is valid one that Garland is one of the most underrated players in ACGM posts.

one of the most overrated players you mean. I don’t think teams are paying 2 top prospects and 1st for him.

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.

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You know it's gonna be a banger when the op writes a novel about how they dont care hoq awful their trades look so "dont even bother telling me".
Ima tell you anyway, these are hilarious. Puff puff pass bro

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: desertdog111

This is the first season garland has even been close to ppg, he's 24. Calling it a sure thing is a bit much.

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.

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NHLfan10506

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I have no idea what was said here

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:34 p.m.

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BogoNorris

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The Leafs don't need another Alex Kerfoot, especially for that price

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.

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desertdog111

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Again, you’re missing the point if you think these are serious. The point is he is not getting traded. Have a nice day

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I have no idea what was said here

Simplified? Rambling about how you want stupid trade value for a guy and then telling people not to point out how stupid the trade value is is a great way for people to twll you your trade value is stupid.
And id like some of what he's smoking if he thinks a 24 year old with 14 games at ppg isnt a dumb ask at 1/4 the stupid values

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Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.

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Quoting: BogoNorris

The Leafs don't need another Alex Kerfoot, especially for that price

I adore how little you know about players who arnt josh Anderson

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.

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desertdog111

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Quoting: BogoNorris

The Leafs don't need another Alex Kerfoot, especially for that price

That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Props to you for having absolutely zero awareness of what’s happening south of the border this season

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.

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Quoting: desertdog111

Again, you’re missing the point if you think these are serious. The point is he is not getting traded. Have a nice day

I think you are missing the point. This is a board qhere trades are discussed. We are discussing your ober reaction to what you've seen as under payments

Feb. 15, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.

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Ryminister_27

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Quoting: desertdog111

Again, that’s the point of this post. The point was not to make a deal, it serves as a reality check to people trading peanuts for the Coyotes best player

So you're rationale is to drastically overpay? Absolutely terrible post.

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