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What would it take

Created by: Drshnuckels91
Initial Creation Date: Feb 16, 2021
Published: Feb 16 at 2:39
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
Ducks aren't going to trade him away for nothing so should I add more or not?? (Maybe Benson too???)
Trades
EDM
  1. Gibson, John
Additional Details:
Best Goalie in the League.
ANA
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Broberg, Philip
  3. Holloway, Dylan
  4. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Koskinen would be a place holder as their starter until they find/draft a new one.
Broberg is set up to be a top 4 d-man maybe even more in the future.
Holloway could easily win the hoby baker this year and has potential to be an all star level center.
The first will probably be around the mid which could be a great player with the right scouts.
The second is too sweeten.
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2023
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,272,157$341,326$1,230,000$1,227,843
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Kahun, Dominik
$975,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Shore, Devin
$700,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 2
EDM
Turris, Kyle
$1,650,000
C
UFA - 2
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Ennis, Tyler
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
ANA
Gibson, John
$6,400,000
G
UFA - 7
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
LD/RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$1,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$850,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
EDM
Koekkoek, Slater
$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Lagesson, William
$725,000
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Benson, Tyler
$808,333
LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
EDM
Haas, Gaëtan
$915,000
C
UFA - 1
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
Taxi Squad
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000 ($4,675,000)
RW, LW
UFA - 3
EDM
Wells, Dylan
$745,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$875,000 ($0)
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Patrick
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Feb 16 at 2:40
#1
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Gibson is not the best goalie in the league
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Feb 16 at 2:42
#2
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best goalie is Vasi. no question
Feb 16 at 2:42
#3
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Way to much. Move on to someone else if thats what it takes. Take out Holloway and when was the last time a goalie went for a first. Lehner twice. So a first Koski and Broberg is enough. Otherwise no
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Feb 16 at 2:42
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Drshnuckels
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Gibson is not the best goalie in the league


In my opinion he is he has gotten a terrible ducks team who should be dead last in a playoff position.
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Feb 16 at 2:42
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The other ones Drai
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Was this exact trade not on the post game show last night?
Feb 16 at 2:43
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Drshnuckels
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Quoting: habsfan00
best goalie is Vasi. no question


Hes extremely good but I just perfer gibson as a goalie.
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Feb 16 at 2:44
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Drshnuckels
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Quoting: ConnorMcJesus
Was this exact trade not on the post game show last night?


I didn't happen to catch the postgame so I don't know.
Feb 16 at 2:45
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Drshnuckels
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Way to much. Move on to someone else if thats what it takes. Take out Holloway and when was the last time a goalie went for a first. Lehner twice. So a first Koski and Broberg is enough. Otherwise no


The first is going to be around mid first so it won't hold extreme value. Gibson in my personal opinion is the best goalie in the league and has an amazing contract which is a bonus and worth even more.
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Feb 16 at 2:45
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The other ones Drai
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
I didn't happen to catch the postgame so I don't know.


ok
weird though lol
Feb 16 at 2:49
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I bet we'll trade for/sign a top-tier goalie and they'll forget how to play hockey first thing they unpack their suitcase in Edmonton. Classic Oilers. Talbot had a good season then fell off a cliff, Koski has way underperformed his contract this season. Im sure we'll have more of the same with whatever we do in the future. I'd rather try our luck on a free agent this summer
Feb 16 at 2:49
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
The first is going to be around mid first so it won't hold extreme value. Gibson in my personal opinion is the best goalie in the league and has an amazing contract which is a bonus and worth even more.


Ohhhh we in the west know Gibson. Holloway is someone I am not getting rid of. He is a swiss army knife and d sound which is exactly the type of player we need and will be NHL ready fast. He is a no go.
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Feb 16 at 2:52
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Ohhhh we in the west know Gibson. Holloway is someone I am not getting rid of. He is a swiss army knife and d sound which is exactly the type of player we need and will be NHL ready fast. He is a no go.


Understandable but edmonton shouldn't give up bouchard either which is probably another piece anehiem would want. Hoby baker winners don't always live up to their potential all the time anyways in college hockey so hollaway could be misleading. If not hollaway we would have to give up another first which isn't ideal but would also get the job done.
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Feb 16 at 2:53
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Quoting: McDavidFan97
I bet we'll trade for/sign a top-tier goalie and they'll forget how to play hockey first thing they unpack their suitcase in Edmonton. Classic Oilers. Talbot had a good season then fell off a cliff, Koski has way underperformed his contract this season. Im sure we'll have more of the same with whatever we do in the future. I'd rather try our luck on a free agent this summer


Free agency could potential be a bigger risk then this. If we throw a ton of money at a guy in free agency we could be stuck in a bobrovsky situation which would set the whole franchise back.
Feb 16 at 2:55
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Quoting: DRshnuckels87
Free agency could potential be a bigger risk then this. If we throw a ton of money at a guy in free agency we could be stuck in a bobrovsky situation which would set the whole franchise back.


Give up a RW as we have tons of them. JP and Yama are young and already in the line up. We have Lavoie and that other guy as well
Feb 16 at 2:55
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Why would Edmonton give up so much of their future for Gibson (.921)? I don't see the logic... they could keep all those guys and sign Binnington (.918) in the summer if they wanted to. Or Grubauer (.937), or Halak (.938).

BTW, since the start of 2019-20:

Gibson: 2.87 GAA / .907 Sv% / .822 HDSv%
Koskinen: 2.94 GAA / .911 Sv% / .830 HDSv%

Gibson isn't the answer to all the Oilers problems. And yet you're giving up their top-3 assets like he is.
Feb 16 at 2:56
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Give up a RW as we have tons of them. JP and Yama are young and already in the line up. We have Lavoie and that other guy as well


Maksimov or something like that
Feb 16 at 2:57
#17
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This is dangerously close to fair value.* My only insight is that we're flush on LDs, and we probably wouldn't do the deal without Bouchard instead of Broberg.

* I'm slightly biased because I'm a Badger alum.
Feb 16 at 2:57
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Quoting: CD282
Why would Edmonton give up so much of their future for Gibson (.921)? I don't see the logic... they could keep all those guys and sign Binnington (.918) in the summer if they wanted to. Or Grubauer (.937), or Halak (.938).

BTW, since the start of 2019-20:

Gibson: 2.87 GAA / .907 Sv% / .822 HDSv%
Koskinen: 2.94 GAA / .911 Sv% / .830 HDSv%

Gibson isn't the answer to all the Oilers problems. And yet you're giving up their top-3 assets like he is.


Exactly. Further more aren't all the goalies in this Canadian conference getting lit up?
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Feb 16 at 2:59
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
This is dangerously close to fair value.* My only insight is that we're flush on LDs, and we probably wouldn't do the deal without Bouchard instead of Broberg.

* I'm slightly biased because I'm a Badger alum.


Bear and a 1st should get this deal done I would think????
With Koski of course as you would need a goalie
Feb 16 at 3:06
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Quoting: CD282
Why would Edmonton give up so much of their future for Gibson (.921)? I don't see the logic... they could keep all those guys and sign Binnington (.918) in the summer if they wanted to. Or Grubauer (.937), or Halak (.938).

BTW, since the start of 2019-20:

Gibson: 2.87 GAA / .907 Sv% / .822 HDSv%
Koskinen: 2.94 GAA / .911 Sv% / .830 HDSv%

Gibson isn't the answer to all the Oilers problems. And yet you're giving up their top-3 assets like he is.


Thats only if those teams even let those goalies go the odds the blues and the avs let those guys go are very slim. Halak is very old and will be declining if we sign him. Koskinen had had a down year this year while gibson has some how performed eilitely with a terrible d this year. Gibson also has an a elite contract and would be their long term answer.
Feb 16 at 3:07
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Drshnuckels
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Exactly. Further more aren't all the goalies in this Canadian conference getting lit up?


Good point didnt think of that
Feb 16 at 3:09
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Bear and a 1st should get this deal done I would think????
With Koski of course as you would need a goalie


As much as I beleive that my deal is a overpayment with hollaway and a second. That deal is not good at all the first will be mid and bear at his highest potential is top 4.
Feb 16 at 3:11
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Quoting: CD282
Why would Edmonton give up so much of their future for Gibson (.921)? I don't see the logic... they could keep all those guys and sign Binnington (.918) in the summer if they wanted to. Or Grubauer (.937), or Halak (.938).

BTW, since the start of 2019-20:

Gibson: 2.87 GAA / .907 Sv% / .822 HDSv%
Koskinen: 2.94 GAA / .911 Sv% / .830 HDSv%

Gibson isn't the answer to all the Oilers problems. And yet you're giving up their top-3 assets like he is.


Since the start of 2021:

Gibson: . . . . . . .2.33 GAA - .921 Sv% - 3 shutouts
Koskinen: . . . . .3.43 GAA - .894 Sv% - 1 assist
Feb 16 at 3:15
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Edited Feb 16 at 3:38. Reason: corrected error
Quoting: Copenhagen
Exactly. Further more aren't all the goalies in this Canadian conference getting lit up?


Quoting: DRshnuckels87
Good point didnt think of that


Markstrom 2.38 GAA, .924 Sv%
Hellebuyck 2.58 GAA, .917 Sv%
Feb 16 at 3:21
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Markstrom 2.38 GAA, .901 Sv%
Hellebuyck 2.58 GAA, .917 Sv%


The west goalies are getting lit up like the 4th of July, Gibson would be different stats in the Canadian division drastically as well
 
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