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Granlund To The Leafs

Created by: TheLeafsSeason
Initial Creation Date: Feb 16, 2021
Published: Feb 16 at 4:40
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Granlund, Mikael ($1,100,000 retained)
NSH
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,499,741$0$0$259
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
NSH
Granlund, Mikael
$2,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000 ($0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$725,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000 ($0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Woll, Joseph
$800,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000 ($0)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Sabourin, Scott
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb 16 at 4:44
#1
themostleaf33
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A 1st seems like a bit much tbh, especially cuz he will have to quarentine. I'm not saying that lowers his overall value, but it lowers the amount of assets a Canadian team would be willing to give up for him.
Feb 16 at 4:46
#2
imawesome
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Quoting: themostleaf33
A 1st seems like a bit much tbh, especially cuz he will have to quarentine. I'm not saying that lowers his overall value, but it lowers the amount of assets a Canadian team would be willing to give up for him.


Think about it like a 1st for combined
1. getting the player
2. the retention
3. dumping Engvall

I think it's about right
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Feb 16 at 4:47
#3
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Quoting: themostleaf33
A 1st seems like a bit much tbh, especially cuz he will have to quarentine. I'm not saying that lowers his overall value, but it lowers the amount of assets a Canadian team would be willing to give up for him.


The Leafs could drop Engvall then, or move him to a different team if they need the cap space. He doesn't add any value to the offer for NSH.
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Feb 16 at 4:48
#4
themostleaf33
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Quoting: imawesome
Think about it like a 1st for combined
1. getting the player
2. the retention
3. dumping Engvall

I think it's about right


Engvall is not a "dump". He makes 1.25 and honestly he has been good so far this year in the opportunities he has been given. He is just a victim of Toronto's stacked depth up front.
Feb 16 at 4:50
#5
imawesome
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Engvall is not a "dump". He makes 1.25 and honestly he has been good so far this year in the opportunities he has been given. He is just a victim of Toronto's stacked depth up front.


He can't make Toronto's bottom 6. At 1.25 that's a cap dump
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Feb 16 at 4:53
#6
themostleaf33
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Quoting: imawesome
He can't make Toronto's bottom 6. At 1.25 that's a cap dump


-_- did you not listen to what I said. It would be very easy for him to make the bottom 6 on a lot of other teams, including Nashville. Toronto just has a lot of guys up front. Let me remind you, when healthy:
Thornton-Matthews-Marner
Hyman-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Simmonds
Vesey-Boyd-Spezza

I mean the only guy he could really knock out there is Vesey and that's probably not happening since Vesey's dad works for the organization.
Feb 16 at 4:54
#7
imawesome
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Quoting: themostleaf33
-_- did you not listen to what I said. It would be very easy for him to make the bottom 6 on a lot of other teams, including Nashville. Toronto just has a lot of guys up front. Let me remind you, when healthy:
Thornton-Matthews-Marner
Hyman-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Simmonds
Vesey-Boyd-Spezza

I mean the only guy he could really knock out there is Vesey and that's probably not happening since Vesey's dad works for the organization.


Who is Engvall replacing on Nashville? @villenash
Feb 16 at 4:56
#8
themostleaf33
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Quoting: gmgb
The Leafs could drop Engvall then, or move him to a different team if they need the cap space. He doesn't add any value to the offer for NSH.


Your right, he's not a cap dump, but he also doesn't have a lot of value, maybe he could grab a 5th-7th rounder or something. All I'm saying is you will get a better offer from an American team simply because of the quarantine time, but because that factor is in play, that is why I don't think you get an offer better then that from a Canadian team
Feb 16 at 4:57
#9
themostleaf33
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Quoting: imawesome
Who is Engvall replacing on Nashville? @villenash


Tolvanen or Trenin. Better then both, especially in his own end
Feb 16 at 4:58
#10
Meh
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Quoting: themostleaf33
I mean the only guy he could really knock out there is Vesey and that's probably not happening since Vesey's dad works for the organization.


Smart way to make lineup decisions....
Feb 16 at 4:58
#11
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Simmonds will be out for a while

I’d like to see a 3rd line like this
Robertson- Kerfoot- Hyman
Feb 16 at 4:59
#12
imawesome
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Tolvanen or Trenin. Better then both, especially in his own end


Trenin is a center. tolvanen still has some upside and would probably play over Engvall
Feb 16 at 4:59
#13
themostleaf33
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Quoting: Miles_Togo
Smart way to make lineup decisions....


Like we all know its true. Vesey has 3 points in 16 games. Like its no secret he should have been scratched for a few by now
Feb 16 at 5:00
#14
themostleaf33
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Quoting: imawesome
Trenin is a center. tolvanen still has some upside and would probably play over Engvall


Engvall can play centre or wing.
Feb 16 at 5:04
#15
Meh
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Like we all know its true. Vesey has 3 points in 16 games. Like its no secret he should have been scratched for a few by now


I am not disagreeing with you. Merit has little to do the roster and lineup decisions of the Leafs.
Feb 16 at 5:19
#16
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Quoting: imawesome
Who is Engvall replacing on Nashville? villenash


I expect there to be quite a bit of turnover in NSH next season -- if he ended up in NSH, I don't think he would be much more than a 12/13 forward though. Right now? NSH has a revolving door bottom 6, so I'm sure he would see some games.
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Feb 16 at 6:07
#17
In Pridham we trust
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Quoting: Miles_Togo
I am not disagreeing with you. Merit has little to do the roster and lineup decisions of the Leafs.


Says the capfriendly poster.

Have you submitted your resume for the job? Maybe they picked Greg Moore instead of you? Is that why your feelings always seem so hurt?
Feb 16 at 6:26
#18
Meh
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Quoting: Barilko14
Says the capfriendly poster.


Team has admitted such, and it has been well known for years that the reason they attract overseas free agents is because they promise them positions.
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Feb 16 at 6:28
#19
stuff
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everyone should start doing bad nylander trades cuz that seems like the trendiest thing on cap friendlytears of joytears of joy tears of joy laugh
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Feb 16 at 6:44
#20
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I don't think a first would need to be added for Granlund, feel like that is too much. I'm also of the opinion that you don't need to pay to dump Engvall. If you think he should not play, just burry him, maybe someone takes him on waivers or you take the 250k hit or whatever it is this year and next. I don't think dubas will move a first for a rental.
Feb 16 at 6:54
#21
In Pridham we trust
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Quoting: Miles_Togo
Team has admitted such, and it has been well known for years that the reason they attract overseas free agents is because they promise them positions.


They've demoted or traded several of them.

No guarantee Barabanov makes opening night roster with a regular camp and full exhibition schedule. It made sense to give him a shot considering he uprooted his life to move here.

I'd consider that just being decent human beings.

And I certainly don't see it as something to b*tch and moan about.
Feb 16 at 7:19
#22
Meh
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Quoting: Barilko14
They've demoted or traded several of them.

No guarantee Barabanov makes opening night roster with a regular camp and full exhibition schedule. It made sense to give him a shot considering he uprooted his life to move here.

I'd consider that just being decent human beings.

And I certainly don't see it as something to b*tch and moan about.


You are ****ing and moaning about me stating reality.
Feb 16 at 7:27
#23
In Pridham we trust
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Quoting: Miles_Togo
You are ****ing and moaning about me stating reality.


Keep up the good fight pal. I'm sure Keefe/Dubas et al. are tearing up reading your little snide remarks on hockey forums.
Feb 16 at 7:53
#24
Meh
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Quoting: Barilko14
Keep up the good fight pal. I'm sure Keefe/Dubas et al. are tearing up reading your little snide remarks on hockey forums.


I care as little about what they think as I do about what you think.
 
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