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LA how do we do it

Created by: xxToothxx
Initial Creation Date: Feb 12, 2021
Published: Feb 16 at 11:29
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
I believe its close for 33 yr old, 10 mil cap hit
Too much? Not weighing the cap space appropriately?
Trades
NYR
  1. Kopitar, Anze
LAK
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Strome, Ryan
  4. Georgiev, Alexandar
  5. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
I know, u dont want Strome, can swap Kreider.
But need some more salary( preferably not Zib)
Of course ADA (at own risk) great PP pointman
Also Nils Lundquist, but some pieces change with him
Buyouts
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $6,083,333
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $5,500,000
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYR
BUF
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$77,028,966$0$10,362,500$4,471,034
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 3
LAK
Kopitar, Anze
$10,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$1,550,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Blackwell, Colin
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Huska, Adam
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$833,333
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Bitetto, Anthony
$737,500
LD
UFA - 2
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$4,800,000 ($3,725,000)
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Johnson, Jack
$1,150,000 ($75,000)
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb 16 at 11:33
#1
imawesome
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idk about them, but if I'm LA manager going into rebuild already with great pieces I would take this and run with it.
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Feb 16 at 11:33
#2
Bcarlo25
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In fairness, they wouldn’t want kreider either
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Feb 16 at 11:36
#3
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Quoting: imawesome
idk about them, but if I'm LA manager going into rebuild already with great pieces I would take this and run with it.


Looking at it after posting .... have those thoughts too.
CapFriendly is a tough crowd...
LA would definitely offer a few other bottom 6 options, bottom 4 dmen.
Im figuring Kopitar plays a role ALOT like Messier.
This group needs a WINNER to lead them, show the kids.
Few better examples around the league.
Feb 16 at 11:37
#4
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Looking at it after posting .... have those thoughts too.
CapFriendly is a tough crowd...
LA would definitely offer a few other bottom 6 options, bottom 4 dmen.


I would think the kings would happily take this as well. Getting out of the last four years of an aging 8 figure contract is kind of a gift.
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Feb 16 at 11:37
#5
Pre-Med Pain.
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Not a good idea. We are not contenders.
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Feb 16 at 11:42
#6
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
In fairness, they wouldn’t want kreider either


Not trying to shove either down their throats, its more about the 10 mil coming over.
Feb 16 at 11:43
#7
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Not a good idea. We are not contenders.


Agreed, not this year.
But a path needs the be laid out.
A Leader is not stepoing forward thus far.
Kopitar is about much more than numbers , i believe.
Feb 16 at 11:44
#8
Toronno Maple Leafs
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Kings would do this in a heartbeat lol.

My question is why would the Rangers do this? They aren't ready to contend.
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Feb 16 at 11:45
#9
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Agreed, not this year.
But a path needs the be laid out.
A Leader is not stepoing forward thus far.
Kopitar is about much more than numbers , i believe.


Ya, but the rangers probably aren’t going to be contending next year either. Do you want 10 million 35 year old kopitar when it’s time to contend? Seems like there’s a decent chance he would be adding to the buyout toll.
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Feb 16 at 11:47
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Nah, Kings need Kopitar to stick around and move down the lineup when the kids are ready and provide leadership when they finally start going to the playoffs. The problem with your trade is it doesn’t give the Kings a top winger, top defenseman, or goalie that is projected better than Petersen, so why would they do this? The Kings will only entertain moving Kopitar when it’s clear Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi are ready to lead the team.
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Feb 16 at 11:48
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Bcarlo25
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Quoting: tryger
Nah, Kings need Kopitar to stick around and move down the lineup when the kids are ready and provide leadership when they finally start going to the playoffs. The problem with your trade is it doesn’t give the Kings a top winger, top defenseman, or goalie that is projected better than Petersen, so why would they do this? The Kings will only entertain moving Kopitar when it’s clear Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi are ready to lead the team.


You have to be kidding. This is a gift.
Feb 16 at 11:49
#12
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Quoting: TheNewAge
Kings would do this in a heartbeat lol.

My question is why would the Rangers do this? They aren't ready to contend.


Why do you think this addresses what the Kings need? Neither Turcotte or Turcotte are ready.
Feb 16 at 11:49
#13
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Ya, but the rangers probably aren’t going to be contending next year either. Do you want 10 million 35 year old kopitar when it’s time to contend? Seems like there’s a decent chance he would be adding to the buyout toll.


Not arguing your point. However, Kopitar is playing top level now.
Next year who knows....
My hope is he brings MUCH more than just points.
In this current roster.. 35 year old Kopitar might still be #2 option. No talented upcoming centremen for in system. Save Chytil...
Feb 16 at 11:50
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
You have to be kidding. This is a gift.


How so, do you think Kopitar is not a good player anymore?
Feb 16 at 11:51
#15
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: tryger
How so, do you think Kopitar is not a good player anymore?


Age and cap. Do you think teams are eager to take on a contract that pays a bigger forward 10 million until he’s 37?
Feb 16 at 11:52
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Quoting: tryger
Nah, Kings need Kopitar to stick around and move down the lineup when the kids are ready and provide leadership when they finally start going to the playoffs. The problem with your trade is it doesn’t give the Kings a top winger, top defenseman, or goalie that is projected better than Petersen, so why would they do this? The Kings will only entertain moving Kopitar when it’s clear Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi are ready to lead the team.


He , hopefully , would be that for NYs upung roster.
But you and i think very highly, still, of Anze. Hes a great player n leader .
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Feb 16 at 11:52
#17
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Not arguing your point. However, Kopitar is playing top level now.
Next year who knows....
My hope is he brings MUCH more than just points.
In this current roster.. 35 year old Kopitar might still be #2 option. No talented upcoming centremen for in system. Save Chytil...


But what if he isn’t? It’s not like he would be the first guy to hit the hard decline at that age. In fact, if he keeps it up he would be the exception. If the cap is still flat then, which it almost certainly will be, a 10 million player that can barely play would be a disaster.
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Feb 16 at 11:58
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Age and cap. Do you think teams are eager to take on a contract that pays a bigger forward 10 million until he’s 37?


The Kings have the most cap space in the league, the kings don’t need to trade Kopitar at this point he provides more value as a teacher and leader to Turcotte and Byfield, than for picks. it’s already worked for Vilardi, and our future 4th line center Jared Anderson Dolan used to live with the Kopitars and he’s just scored 3 goals in 5 games since his rookie debut. Like Vilardi literally has said several times he credits his play improvement to watching and working with Kopitar.
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Feb 16 at 11:59
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Quoting: tryger
Nah, Kings need Kopitar to stick around and move down the lineup when the kids are ready and provide leadership when they finally start going to the playoffs. The problem with your trade is it doesn’t give the Kings a top winger, top defenseman, or goalie that is projected better than Petersen, so why would they do this? The Kings will only entertain moving Kopitar when it’s clear Byfield, Turcotte, and Vilardi are ready to lead the team.


So trade talks can start with D Nils Lundquist.?
Hes one if the top D prospects in all of hockey.
But still need to offset the cap hit...
Think youre undervaluing Buchnevich n Kravtsov.
Feb 17 at 12:03
#20
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Quoting: xxToothxx
So trade talks can start with D Nils Lundquist.?
Hes one if the top D prospects in all of hockey.
But still need to offset the cap hit...
Think youre undervaluing Buchnevich n Kravtsov.


Kings have prospects of similar caliber in their prospect system. I don’t see trades with the Rags unless it’s something crazy like Turcotte for Kappo or Laffy. The thing I think you all are missing is, the Kings went through a large rebuild and decided to continue to build around Kopitar, he’s part of the future, he’s going to teach and on his final year will play a 3rd line shutdown role with Byfield and Turcotte or Vilardi as the one two punch.
Feb 17 at 12:07
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Pre-Med Pain.
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Quoting: xxToothxx
Agreed, not this year.
But a path needs the be laid out.
A Leader is not stepoing forward thus far.
Kopitar is about much more than numbers , i believe.


Got to find a better alternative. This is a negative in every direction.
Feb 17 at 12:40
#22
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: tryger
The Kings have the most cap space in the league, the kings don’t need to trade Kopitar at this point he provides more value as a teacher and leader to Turcotte and Byfield, than for picks. it’s already worked for Vilardi, and our future 4th line center Jared Anderson Dolan used to live with the Kopitars and he’s just scored 3 goals in 5 games since his rookie debut. Like Vilardi literally has said several times he credits his play improvement to watching and working with Kopitar.


K. What about 2023?
Feb 17 at 12:48
#23
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
K. What about 2023?


You think it’s out of the question that Kopitar can still play in 2023 as a third line center once Byfield and Turcotte are ready? Will he be worth $10M then, heck no, but if Byfield and Turcotte want their spots they need to show they can play better than Kopitar or Vilardi. I think it’s precisely what Blake planned for.
Feb 17 at 1:38
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Robitaille and Blake have already said that the rebuild is centered around Kopitar and Doughty. They're not about to trade their single best player when they're just about to come out of their rebuild.

If you want to include Kakko or Lafreniere then maybe the Kings would listen. Otherwise they'll stick with their captain and future Hall of Fame center until he retires.
Feb 17 at 2:09
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I would think the kings would happily take this as well. Getting out of the last four years of an aging 8 figure contract is kind of a gift.


Aging? He has 18 points in 14 games moron.
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