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Pain Its always pain

Created by: Cory0923
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 17, 2021
Published: Feb. 17, 2021
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
It is very clear the Sabres are never going to win with their current core. A decade of incompetent management and coaching have ruined any chance we had. Just blow it up and start over. I am so sick of the Buffalo Sabres wasting the careers of my favorite players
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Drysdale, Jamie
  2. Backes, David
  3. Kesler, Ryan
  4. Steel, Sam
  5. 2022 1st round pick (ANA)
  6. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Miller, Colin
2.
BUF
  1. Cogliano, Andrew
  2. 2022 1st round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Hall, Taylor
3.
BUF
  1. Miller, Kevan
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
2nd becomes a 1st if Staal resigns
BOS
  1. Olofsson, Victor
  2. Staal, Eric
4.
BUF
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Ryan, Derek
  3. Mangiapane, Andrew
  4. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. Reinhart, Sam
5.
BUF
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
PHI
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
6.
BUF
  1. Connolly, Brett
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Montour, Brandon
  2. McCabe, Jake
7.
BUF
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
VGK
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Eric Staal: $1,625,000 (50%)
  • Taylor Hall: $4,000,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
ANA
DAL
CGY
BUF
BOS
BUF
VAN
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
ANA
BOS
BUF
FLA
BUF
VGK
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$65,320,833$1,487,500$5,937,500$16,179,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 3
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
DAL
Cogliano, Andrew
$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Rieder, Tobias
$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Sheahan, Riley
$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
$845,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CGY
Ryan, Derek
$3,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
FLA
Connolly, Brett
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
ANA
Kesler, Ryan
$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
ANA
Backes, David
$4,500,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
ANA
Steel, Sam
$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
ANA
Drysdale, Jamie
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Miller, Kevan
$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
BUF
Borgen, William
$864,166
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Irwin, Matt
$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
BUF
Oglevie, Andrew
$750,000 ($0)
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Bryson, Jacob
$889,166 ($0)
LD
RFA - 2
BUF
Smith, C.J.
$700,000 ($0)
LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Davidson, Brandon
$700,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Fogarty, Steven
$700,000 ($0)
C, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Johansson, Jonas
$700,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 1

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Feb. 17 at 10:20 a.m.
#1
Joined: Sep. 2020
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Mangiapane isn't for trade and we don't want Skinner.
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Feb. 17 at 10:20 a.m.
#2
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 83
Likes: 17
Quoting: Gmonwy
Mangiapane isn't for trade and we don't want Skinner.


It's not necessarily meant to be realistic... just trade everyone wherever and start over
Feb. 17 at 10:23 a.m.
#3
Joined: Jun. 2016
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Bruins don't really need Staal right now. McCabe is a better target.
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Feb. 17 at 10:25 a.m.
#4
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 83
Likes: 17
Quoting: bhavikp27
Bruins don't really need Staal right now. McCabe is a better target.


Go ahead and switch them out. I am just done with this team
Feb. 17 at 10:25 a.m.
#5
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 83
Likes: 17
Quoting: bhavikp27
Bruins don't really need Staal right now. McCabe is a better target.


Go ahead and switch them out. I am just done with this team
Feb. 17 at 10:26 a.m.
#6
Amateur GM
Joined: Jun. 2016
Posts: 774
Likes: 93
People need to stop trading Eichel. It's insulting. And other people need to stop saying a top 10 talent in the NHL isn't worth it for their team.
Feb. 17 at 10:28 a.m.
#7
mokumboi
Joined: Apr. 2019
Posts: 9,660
Likes: 3,090
Man, you are selling some of these assets too cheap.
Feb. 17 at 10:30 a.m.
#8
GOAT Uniform
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 2,788
Likes: 1,301
Even if Dallas wanted a struggling Hall, and even with you taking Cogliano, the Stars don't have anywhere near the cap space to add him; especially not when you consider that Bishop's $4.9M+ contract will be coming off of LTIR at some point this season. With the frozen salary cap, very few competitive teams will be able to afford Hall....and Dallas isn't one of them.
Feb. 17 at 10:41 a.m.
#9
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 8,876
Likes: 3,417
Potentially a pair of 1st for that return for Boston? **** that, for a pair of 1st I'll go after a young winger which actually fits the teams need.
Feb. 17 at 11:07 a.m.
#10
Nylander is good
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 7,705
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
People need to stop trading Eichel. It's insulting. And other people need to stop saying a top 10 talent in the NHL isn't worth it for their team.


It just seems like such a shame to have a top 10 or even top 5 centre in the league play for this poor excuse of an nhl team, that's all. That's why people think he should be traded.
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Feb. 17 at 11:13 a.m.
#11
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Quoting: Cory0923
It's not necessarily meant to be realistic... just trade everyone wherever and start over


This has been the gameplan every 3 years. How's it working out so far?
Feb. 17 at 12:10 p.m.
#12
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 2,230
Likes: 866
Quoting: ON3M4N
Potentially a pair of 1st for that return for Boston? **** that, for a pair of 1st I'll go after a young winger which actually fits the teams need.


Olofsson is a young winger that fits their needs...
Feb. 17 at 12:34 p.m.
#13
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Posts: 8,876
Likes: 3,417
Quoting: shmoeman
Olofsson is a young winger that fits their needs...


You mean the guy who 50% of his career production has come via the PP? The same guy whose top 3 linemates since last season are Eichel, Reinhart and Staal?
Feb. 17 at 12:53 p.m.
#14
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Likes: 93
Quoting: Saskleaf
It just seems like such a shame to have a top 10 or even top 5 centre in the league play for this poor excuse of an nhl team, that's all. That's why people think he should be traded.


Shame for such an elite player like Matthews to only see one round of the playoffs as well...
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Feb. 17 at 1:01 p.m.
#15
Joined: Jul. 2018
Posts: 4,928
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What is this horror? Why are you doing this?
Feb. 17 at 1:18 p.m.
#16
Joined: Jan. 2019
Posts: 2,230
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Quoting: ON3M4N
You mean the guy who 50% of his career production has come via the PP? The same guy whose top 3 linemates since last season are Eichel, Reinhart and Staal?


Id love to hear some other options that fit your parameters. I get that a lot of his production is on the PP but hes no Hoffman, the dude is a goal scorer that's only getting better. Id love to see him getting fed by Krejci
Feb. 17 at 1:20 p.m.
#17
Nylander is good
Joined: Apr. 2020
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
Shame for such an elite player like Matthews to only see one round of the playoffs as well...


*First place in the nhl right now... I get it that there's an asterisk beside that but still impressive.
Feb. 17 at 1:45 p.m.
#18
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Quoting: shmoeman
Id love to hear some other options that fit your parameters. I get that a lot of his production is on the PP but hes no Hoffman, the dude is a goal scorer that's only getting better. Id love to see him getting fed by Krejci


Honestly I'm not looking to make a move if I'm Boston unless its for a top pairing LHD. This team isn't fully healthy and our top prospect is forced to play in the AHL because there isn't room for him on the NHL roster.
Feb. 17 at 1:56 p.m.
#19
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Quoting: Saskleaf
*First place in the nhl right now... I get it that there's an asterisk beside that but still impressive.


Its actually not though lol. Toronto has played more games than 22 other teams. They rank T-4th in P% behind BOS/FLA//CAR and tied with TBL & VGK. They also play in the absolute worst defensive division in the NHL. 3 of the top 10 teams in most SA are in the North Division and 5 in the top 15 come from the North Division. The top 2 teams in most GA/GP are also from the North Division and if you want to look at the top 10, the North has 3 teams. If you want to take it one step further, looking at goalies and GSAA, 4 of the top 5 in worst GSAA (wait for it)......are from the North Division and 5 of the top 10 are from the North Division.
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Feb. 17 at 1:58 p.m.
#20
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Honestly I'm not looking to make a move if I'm Boston unless its for a top pairing LHD. This team isn't fully healthy and our top prospect is forced to play in the AHL because there isn't room for him on the NHL roster.


Thats fair, and Id also really like to see more than 5 games at a time from Kase but this window isnt getting any bigger. I wouldnt hate a big move if it wasnt forced
Feb. 17 at 2:07 p.m.
#21
Nylander is good
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Its actually not though lol. Toronto has played more games than 22 other teams. They rank T-4th in P% behind BOS/FLA//CAR and tied with TBL & VGK. They also play in the absolute worst defensive division in the NHL. 3 of the top 10 teams in most SA are in the North Division and 5 in the top 15 come from the North Division. The top 2 teams in most GA/GP are also from the North Division and if you want to look at the top 10, the North has 3 teams. If you want to take it one step further, looking at goalies and GSAA, 4 of the top 5 in worst GSAA (wait for it)......are from the North Division and 5 of the top 10 are from the North Division.


That's why I said there is an asterisk beside it. But what does being a bad defensive division have to do with their overall record?
Feb. 17 at 2:14 p.m.
#22
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Quoting: Saskleaf
That's why I said there is an asterisk beside it. But what does being a bad defensive division have to do with their overall record?


Are you serious right now?

You win games by outscoring your opponent, no? If the teams in your division are poor defensively its easier to score goals and as we know, you win games by outscoring your opponent.
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