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Created by: Wreckless
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 18, 2021
Published: Feb. 18, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,850,000
4$2,500,000
6$5,500,000
3$1,100,000
2$750,000
3$2,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,875,000
6$3,500,000
4$3,500,000
Trades
MTL
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    VAN
    1. Byron, Paul
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
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    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$72,155,059$1,132,500$420,000$9,344,941
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    C
    UFA - 8
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $2,125,000$2,125,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 5
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
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    $1,850,000$1,850,000
    C
    UFA - 8
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    C
    UFA - 3
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    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
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    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
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    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 4
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    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
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    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD
    RFA - 3

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    Feb. 18, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
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    Jesus you're a cheap guy or delusional I don't know.
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    Feb. 18, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: ColonelX
    Jesus you're a cheap guy or delusional I don't know.


    $3.5 over 6 for Danault tears of joy
    Feb. 18, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: ColonelX
    Jesus you're a cheap guy or delusional I don't know.


    Out of curiosity, which center can you think of in recent history who has gone close to 40 games without a goal (but who’s excellent on face offs and defensively!), who signed the following off-season for more?
    Feb. 18, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.
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    $3.5 over 6 for Danault tears of joy

    - I don't think that Suzuki signing a sub 6M for 6 years is closer to the realm of possibilities, a closer to reality contract would be a bridge deal like 2x5M$.
    - KK isn't playing great hockey but he isn't signing a sub 2M$ bridge deal, there's actually 0 chances that he signs for cheaper than Lehkonen.
    - Signing Chiarot to a 4 year extension from 2022 to 2026 when Struble, Norlinder and Harris are all likely to see ice-time in the next two years would be pretty bad from a cap stand point.
    - You don't give Armia and Lehkonen four year deals.

    Quoting: Wreckless
    Out of curiosity, which center can you think of in recent history who has gone close to 40 games without a goal (but who’s excellent on face offs and defensively!), who signed the following off-season for more?

    For me you do not sign Danault for 6 years (Until he's 33) when you've got a cupfull of center prospect. He's at the top of his game right now but I doubt he maintains his stats for 6 years.
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    Feb. 18, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: ColonelX
    - I don't think that Suzuki signing a sub 6M for 6 years is closer to the realm of possibilities, a closer to reality contract would be a bridge deal like 2x5M$.
    - KK isn't playing great hockey but he isn't signing a sub 2M$ bridge deal, there's actually 0 chances that he signs for cheaper than Lehkonen.
    - Signing Chiarot to a 4 year extension from 2022 to 2026 when Struble, Norlinder and Harris are all likely to see ice-time in the next two years would be pretty bad from a cap stand point.
    - You don't give Armia and Lehkonen four year deals.


    Hahaha, I just saw the Danault contract and figured that I'd stop reading. I don't understand the whole "Our prospects are all future HOFers" followed by everyone getting the most team friendly, bogus contracts. Doesn't make sense to me.
    Feb. 18, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: ColonelX
    - I don't think that Suzuki signing a sub 6M for 6 years is closer to the realm of possibilities, a closer to reality contract would be a bridge deal like 2x5M$.
    - KK isn't playing great hockey but he isn't signing a sub 2M$ bridge deal, there's actually 0 chances that he signs for cheaper than Lehkonen.
    - Signing Chiarot to a 4 year extension from 2022 to 2026 when Struble, Norlinder and Harris are all likely to see ice-time in the next two years would be pretty bad from a cap stand point.
    - You don't give Armia and Lehkonen four year deals.


    For me you do not sign Danault for 6 years (Until he's 33) when you've got a cupfull of center prospect. He's at the top of his game right now but I doubt he maintains his stats for 6 years.


    I’d be indifferent between 6x$3.5mm and 4x$4.25mm
    Feb. 18, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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    I’d be indifferent between 6x$3.5mm and 4x$4.25mm

    Btw my first comment had nothing pointing toward Danault so my guess is that you already knew you were being on the cheap side of things and waiting for someone to comment on it.
    To be honest I'm way more triggered by the fact you're giving Suzuki a copy paste of Drouin's contract with an extra year and KK getting a million less than Armia. Drouin came here as a dump from TB and Armia as a cap dump sweetener.
    Feb. 18, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: ColonelX
    Btw my first comment had nothing pointing toward Danault so my guess is that you already knew you were being on the cheap side of things and waiting for someone to comment on it.
    To be honest I'm way more triggered by the fact you're giving Suzuki a copy paste of Drouin's contract with an extra year and KK getting a million less than Armia. Drouin came here as a dump from TB and Armia as a cap dump sweetener.


    What contract do you believe both Bergevin and Suzuki will agree to? (assuming a 6 year term coming out of entry level)
    Hischier (same draft class) signed for 7x$7.25mm, so you gotta figure his cap hit will come in noticeably lower than that.
    As for your point about comparables on our team, given age as a relevant factor, one can definitely make the case that Suzuki should come in at a lower cap hit than both Anderson (who got a 3 year bridge) and Drouin.
    Also, the cap hit a player can expect on a less than stellar Devils team, and a team like Montreal who’s aiming to compete for the cup, are not apples to apples. I think my numbers for Suzuki are reasonable (and maybe even a bit high), especially with a stagnant cap for multiple season projected gong forwards.

    Re: KK, take a look at what Armia got paid coming out of entry level. Last time I checked, KK had 18 goals in his NHL career. Armia will be a UFA, KK’s under team control. Apples and oranges.

    Armia at 20: $70k
    Armia at 21: $70k
    Armia at 22: ~$500k
    Armia at 23: $875k
    Armia at 24: $975k
    Armia at 25: $1.85mm
    Armia at 26: $2.8mm
    Armia at 27: $2.4mm

    Assuming a 2 year bridge (perfect candidate given his age)
    KK at 21: what $ do you propose?
    Kk at 22: what $ do you propose?

    KK’s stat line will look somewhat similar to Puljujarvi coming out of entry level (also similar draft position) and he’s locked in at 22&23 at under a $1.2mm cap hit. Do I think he should get more? Sure. How much more?

    This stuff isn’t black and white. The way a look of the posters here speak of contract extensions, you’d think that they’re directly on the payroll of NHL player agents.
     
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