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Johansen

Created by: Price_is_the_goat
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 18, 2021
Published: Feb. 18, 2021
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Do preds fans want to trade Ryan Johansen? Is this a fair deal?
Trades
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NSH
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Poehling, Ryan
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
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Kulak is there for cap purposes.
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  1. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
LAK
  1. Armia, Joel
Additional Details:
Cap purposes, I'd like to keep him
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.
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What is sure is we dont want R Johansen lmao
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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Why on earth are we giving up assets for that contract?
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.
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What is sure is we dont want R Johansen lmao


i think he'll fit well with the habs. he'll be playing with 2 scoring wingers and he can play top 6. salary is heavy, obviously, but its only 4 more years
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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Byron going the other way is a must
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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Johansen is good as a 2c with a LIGIT 1C in front of him Johansen isnt that overpayed tbh only by like 1-1.5M
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
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Johansen is good as a 2c with a LIGIT 1C in front of him Johansen isnt that overpayed tbh only by like 1-1.5M


my point exactly.
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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yep i take that as a Nashville fan
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
i think he'll fit well with the habs. he'll be playing with 2 scoring wingers and he can play top 6. salary is heavy, obviously, but its only 4 more years


Only 4 more years”
You do realize that nearly everyone in our organization’s contracts will be done in 4 years? The only people under contract will be Price, Weber, Anderson, and Gallagher. Most of our young players will be done their ELCs, including: Caufield, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Primeau, Romanov, Norlinder, Harris, etc.

I’d love to see an outline of how you expect to deal with this contract, especially when Suzuki and Romanov’s ELCs are up 1.5 years from now.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
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Only 4 more years”
You do realize that nearly everyone in our organization’s contracts will be done in 4 years? The only people under contract will be Price, Weber, Anderson, and Gallagher. Most of our young players will be done their ELCs, including: Caufield, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Primeau, Romanov, Norlinder, Harris, etc.

I’d love to see an outline of how you expect to deal with this contract, especially when Suzuki and Romanov’s ELCs are up 1.5 years from now.


when we get there, we'll get there bud. right now we have a chance to go for a deep run and win a cup. unless you think winning a cup is not worth it?
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:29 p.m.
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Counter offer: 1/2 retained on Johansen for Byron. Johansen has little to no value, that's why he hasn't been traded already.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
when we get there, we'll get there bud. right now we have a chance to go for a deep run and win a cup. unless you think winning a cup is not worth it?


Ryan Johansen isn’t a piece that’s going to put you over the top. He’s barely (if at all) better than Danault, and I wouldn’t even do this if he and Phil had the exact same contract.

So if you don’t care about cap space, do you think that we should trade a 1st for Vlasic because he’s better than Mete and we should trade for Eriksson because he’s better than Frolík?

By trading for Johansen, you’re making sure that the habs can’t re-sign their core young players and you’re making sure the window is only open for one year so you can make a lateral move.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Ryan Johansen isn’t a piece that’s going to put you over the top. He’s barely (if at all) better than Danault, and I wouldn’t even do this if he and Phil had the exact same contract.

So if you don’t care about cap space, do you think that we should trade a 1st for Vlasic because he’s better than Mete and we should trade for Eriksson because he’s better than Frolík?

By trading for Johansen, you’re making sure that the habs can’t re-sign their core young players and you’re making sure the window is only open for one year so you can make a lateral move.


your opinion bud. enjoy
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:40 p.m.
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While Johansen is a little overpaid he's still a 1b big bodied C. He has value. While you can likely send Byron or similar back and get out of some bad short term contracts, Nashville will want futures back

Otherwise they'd be better retaining 2 mil and trading to a team like Buffalo who's been desperately searching for their 2c forever.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:41 p.m.
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While Johansen is a little overpaid he's still a 1b big bodied C. He has value. While you can likely send Byron or similar back and get out of some bad short term contracts, Nashville will want futures back

Otherwise they'd be better retaining 2 mil and trading to a team like Buffalo who's been desperately searching for their 2c forever.


thats why i never sent byron bud and gave you futures
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:43 p.m.
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Honestly if I'm the Habs it's a yes i like Johansen. A fresh start for him with good wingers
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.
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Honestly if I'm the Habs it's a yes i like Johansen. A fresh start for him with good wingers


tahts my point. i thought this through the preds prespective and the habs prespective. poehling still has potential. danault can resign or leave as a FA. preds get rid of cap and get a decent prospect back
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:46 p.m.
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Press should take that and run while extending Danault at the same time.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:53 p.m.
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thats why i never sent byron bud and gave you futures


I'm not a Nashville fan so it isn't sent to me. But a 2nd and 3rd from a good team is moderate value at best. Is Poehling worth much? I think you're more likely to trade them Byron, or have them retain but then up the quality your sending. Like a 1st or Kotkaniemi or something
Feb. 18, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.
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I'm not a Nashville fan so it isn't sent to me. But a 2nd and 3rd from a good team is moderate value at best. Is Poehling worth much? I think you're more likely to trade them Byron, or have them retain but then up the quality your sending. Like a 1st or Kotkaniemi or something


lmao kotka is not going the other way. he's a future 1C.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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Surely the Habs could spend 8m a lot better than the decline Johansson. Not that Habs are giving up much in the trade proposed, but that contract is bad
Heck Denault is playing as well as Johansson.
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Feb. 18, 2021 at 7:50 p.m.
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Surely the Habs could spend 8m a lot better than the decline Johansson. Not that Habs are giving up much in the trade proposed, but that contract is bad
Heck Denault is playing as well as Johansson.


i think johnsen needs a change. preds have talent, but aren't playing well. they're heading towards a rebuild IMO. Johnsen would be perfect to ease suzuki and KK in.
Feb. 18, 2021 at 9:54 p.m.
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lmao kotka is not going the other way. he's a future 1C.


A future 1c? I don't think we've watched the same player
Feb. 18, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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A future 1c? I don't think we've watched the same player


seems like you dont watch habs hockey bud
Feb. 19, 2021 at 1:24 a.m.
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seems like you dont watch habs hockey bud


I think you are watching him with rouge, blanc et blue glasses
 
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