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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Feb 19, 2021
Published: Feb 19 at 9:04
Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
I’d do Scheifele + but I don’t think he waives for Buffalo

This team is a deep contender
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Copp, Andrew4$3,500,000
Pionk, Neal6$5,250,000
Stanley, Logan1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Forbort, Derek3$2,250,000
Brossoit, Laurent3$2,500,000
Lowry, Adam3$2,000,000
Armia, Joel5$3,500,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Wheeler, Blake
  2. Perfetti, Cole
  3. Heinola, Ville
  4. 2021 1st round pick (WPG)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
If it’s too much change a 1st for a 2nd. If not , keep it as is.
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
CBJ
WPG
WPG
WPG
2023
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,221,190$0$1,157,500$278,810
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 5
WPG
Vesalainen, Kristian
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 1
WPG
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
$5,000,000
C
RFA - 1
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$3,500,000
C, LW
RFA
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
Armia, Joel
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$725,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
WPG
Gustafsson, David
$817,500
C
RFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 7
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 3
WPG
Samberg, Dylan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$5,250,000
RD
RFA
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$2,500,000
G
UFA
WPG
Forbort, Derek
$2,250,000
LD
UFA
WPG
DeMelo, Dylan
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Stanley, Logan
$900,000
LD
RFA
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,667
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
WPG
Niku, Sami
$725,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
WPG
Nogier, Nelson
$725,000 ($0)
RD
RFA - 1

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Feb 19 at 9:11
#1
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I don't think thats enough. That might be close for just Eichel(Don't know the value of the players you are sending back to well) but not for both
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Feb 19 at 9:20
#2
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I know Eichel is great but I don't see Winnipeg going after another center, the just traded away Laine for PLD who can Second line center.
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Feb 19 at 9:21
#3
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KFTW
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Quoting: Gmonwy
I don't think thats enough. That might be close for just Eichel(Don't know the value of the players you are sending back to well) but not for both


I think if Buffalo retains on Wheeler they’d be able to flip him for something really good
Feb 19 at 9:34
#4
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Edited Feb 19 at 9:51
I don't see Winnipeg or many teams willing to give up 4 firsts, so it is a little steep, but I can see Buffalo asking for that. But I doubt Winnipeg is interested, especially now that the Jets have PLD.
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Feb 19 at 9:48
#5
wpg
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Doesn’t work

Rather have PLD at 2nd line center

Have less then 300k in cap space and 7 players looking for raises

Just no fit
Feb 19 at 9:50
#6
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Hmmmmmmmm that doesn’t get u Eichel
Feb 19 at 9:55
#7
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Not going to lie, think it’s fair value, but both teams say no. Jets already just acquired their 2C, and in this trade are giving up a future top 6 winger, a top pairing dman and 2 1sts. Buffalo restocks their cupboards. But it doesn’t really do them much for 2-3 years as perfetti could end up not even playing C.
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Feb 19 at 9:55
#8
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KFTW
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
Doesn’t work

Rather have PLD at 2nd line center

Have less then 300k in cap space and 7 players looking for raises

Just no fit


I signed a lot of bottom 6 guys and bottom 2 Ds to rich contract. You can always go cheaper on those
Feb 19 at 9:56
#9
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KFTW
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Quoting: tsyls
Not going to lie, think it’s fair value, but both teams say no. Jets already just acquired their 2C, and in this trade are giving up a future top 6 winger, a top pairing dman and 2 1sts. Buffalo restocks their cupboards. But it doesn’t really do them much for 2-3 years as perfetti could end up not even playing C.


Would u do Scheifele + for Eichel and keep the ELC guys? But I don’t think he waives unfortunately
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Feb 19 at 9:57
#10
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Quoting: tsyls
Not going to lie, think it’s fair value, but both teams say no. Jets already just acquired their 2C, and in this trade are giving up a future top 6 winger, a top pairing dman and 2 1sts. Buffalo restocks their cupboards. But it doesn’t really do them much for 2-3 years as perfetti could end up not even playing C.


Buffalo gets Perfetti who plays wing with Cozens. And then draft a guy like Eklund for a 2C , they’d be fine
Feb 19 at 9:59
#11
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Quoting: Pensfan22
Hmmmmmmmm that doesn’t get u Eichel


How? He’s not McDavid. That’s two 1Cs (if Wheeler plays center and Perfetti develops), a 1D AND two elite young players of Buffalos choosing who they can mold to be a 1C, 1G, 1D, whatever
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Feb 19 at 10:00
#12
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
How? He’s not McDavid. That’s two 1Cs (if Wheeler plays center and Perfetti develops), a 1D AND two elite young players of Buffalos choosing who they can mold to be a 1C, 1G, 1D, whatever


I’m kidding
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Feb 19 at 10:12
#13
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not enough for eichel imo, dont want old Wheeler as the top player. I know he can still score but he is going to regress soon. It would need to start with Connor.
Feb 19 at 10:15
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Quoting: sabresspoonz3737
not enough for eichel imo, dont want old Wheeler as the top player. I know he can still score but he is going to regress soon. It would need to start with Connor.


You can flip Wheeler retained for a 1st and a solid prospect imo
Feb 19 at 10:16
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Quoting: csick
I think if Buffalo retains on Wheeler they’d be able to flip him for something really good


Any trade where the Sabres (any team) have to flip an asset to get the full value of Eichel (any player) is nonsensical. WPG needs to give them full value not someone they flip
Feb 19 at 10:28
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Quoting: csick
You can flip Wheeler retained for a 1st and a solid prospect imo


buffalo needs full value, not someone to flip
Feb 19 at 11:12
#17
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Quoting: csick
Would u do Scheifele + for Eichel and keep the ELC guys? But I don’t think he waives unfortunately


I’d do scheifele + wheeler + 1st for Eichel and ristolainen. I’d add a bit more to that too. Like you said it’s unlikely they waive, but i’d make that trade in a heartbeat.

Imagine a top 6 of:

Copp-Eichel-Ehlers
Connor-PLD-Stastny

Yeesh that gets me hard. Obviously this is a pipe dream as the Jets would never move scheifele, but it’s cool to think about. All the Jets would need to do is add a fringe top 6 winger like a Conor garland to take stastnys spot and they’d be a cup contender.

Their d would be:

Morrissey-Ristolainen
Forbort-Pionk
Poolman-Demelo
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Feb 19 at 11:41
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Wheeler won't make sense for us because of age.
Feb 19 at 7:42
#19
Lysell second round
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Quoting: sabresspoonz3737
not enough for eichel imo, dont want old Wheeler as the top player. I know he can still score but he is going to regress soon. It would need to start with Connor.


Ah I didn’t know you guys were trading away McDavid
Feb 19 at 7:43
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Wheeler won't make sense for us because of age.


You not see the other 4 pieces?
Feb 19 at 7:44
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
You not see the other 4 pieces?


I see, but not too attractive
Feb 19 at 7:46
#22
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
I see, but not too attractive


Two of the NHLs best prospects coupled with two 1st round picks that you can choose and mold to be whatever you want them to be
Feb 19 at 7:50
#23
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Two of the NHLs best prospects coupled with two 1st round picks that you can choose and mold to be whatever you want them to be


Today I have seen a lot of the best offers from fans of other teams. We could have picked Perfetti in the draft, but we didn't, not a Perfetti fan. Heinola is a prospect LDs who we have a lot, he is not a prospect blue-chips. 2022 1st probably late.
Feb 19 at 7:53
#24
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Today I have seen a lot of the best offers from fans of other teams. We could have picked Perfetti in the draft, but we didn't, not a Perfetti fan. Heinola is a prospect LDs who we have a lot, he is not a prospect blue-chips. 2022 1st probably late.


I think that Eichel is supremely overrated in this forum. I think that Buffalo could get back a top 20 NHL prospect, effective NHLer, 1st and maybe another 1st or a couple 2nds
Feb 19 at 7:58
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
I think that Eichel is supremely overrated in this forum. I think that Buffalo could get back a top 20 NHL prospect, effective NHLer, 1st and maybe another 1st or a couple 2nds


Well then you haven't watched a lot of Buffalo games in years. Elite young 1C from a trash and weak team, signed for another six years who scored 82 points in the 18-19 season and who walked at a pace of 95-100 points last season, unless there was a short season. And he doesn't have Johnny Hockey on the wing, he had to do everything himself. It costs a lot.
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