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Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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Marner A+
Campbell A+
Matthews A+
Boyd A
Holl A
Simmonds A-
Nylander B+
Andersen B+
Thornton B+
Tavares B
Brodie B
Lehtonen B
Rielly B-
Hutchinson B-
Muzzin B-
Hyman B-
Spezza B-
Mikheyev B-
Brooks C+
Sandin C+
Kerfoot C+
Bogosian C+
Engvall C
Petan C
Dermott C
Barabanov C
Anderson C-
Vesey D+
Robertson D
Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.
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if anyone on the team deserves an A+ it's Matthews. He's been ridiculous and utterly dominant.
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Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.
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I also dont know how you give a guy who had like 2 periods of play where he was good and then got hurt a D
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Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:34 a.m.
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I also dont know how you give a guy who had like 2 periods of play where he was good and then got hurt a D


Beat me to it. Also Brooks scores in his only game
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Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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How is Matthews not an A+? These all are weird. I also think ratings like this are sort of silly. Just point to Engvall as an example, the guy isn't a star and never will be, he won't score a lot but he is excellent defensively and gets really good possession numbers. That is what he is, so if he excells in the role he is given, isn't that deserving of a high grade?
Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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How is Matthews not an A+? These all are weird. I also think ratings like this are sort of silly. Just point to Engvall as an example, the guy isn't a star and never will be, he won't score a lot but he is excellent defensively and gets really good possession numbers. That is what he is, so if he excells in the role he is given, isn't that deserving of a high grade?


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if anyone on the team deserves an A+ it's Matthews. He's been ridiculous and utterly dominant.

Wdym?
Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.
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Beat me to it. Also Brooks scores in his only game


It's all arbitrary, 4th liners get D's because they are not 1st liners. I think it would be more reasonable to give them grades based on how they succeed in the role they have.
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Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:47 a.m.
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Wdym?


What I mean is take any player and first examine the role they are supposed to play. For Matthews he needs to fill the net, which he is better than anyone else in the game. He needs to dominate at 5v5, yup! He also needs to be better in a two way sense and he absolutely is! He's been the Leafs best player and currently its hard to argue he isn't right there with MacKinnon fighting for 2nd best player in hockey. He gets and A+ without a doubt.

Now let's take Engvall for example, he won't ever fill the net, that isn't his skill set. His role is a bottom 6 defensive guy who on occasion can pitch in offensively but for the most part should be getting the puck out of his zone and into the offensive zone. He's been really good at that. He needs to be good on the PK, again he's done that. So why does he get a C? He's succeeding well at the role he's been handed.

Vesey is a guy who I think deserves a C, why? Because he isn't as good offensively as we had hoped which is disappointing but he's also been way better defensively than I expected.
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Feb. 19, 2021 at 10:49 a.m.
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What I mean is take any player and first examine the role they are supposed to play. For Matthews he needs to fill the net, which he is better than anyone else in the game. He needs to dominate at 5v5, yup! He also needs to be better in a two way sense and he absolutely is! He's been the Leafs best player and currently its hard to argue he isn't right there with MacKinnon fighting for 2nd best player in hockey. He gets and A+ without a doubt.

Now let's take Engvall for example, he won't ever fill the net, that isn't his skill set. His role is a bottom 6 defensive guy who on occasion can pitch in offensively but for the most part should be getting the puck out of his zone and into the offensive zone. He's been really good at that. He needs to be good on the PK, again he's done that. So why does he get a C? He's succeeding well at the role he's been handed.

Vesey is a guy who I think deserves a C, why? Because he isn't as good offensively as we had hoped which is disappointing but he's also been way better defensively than I expected.


No I have Matthews A+.
Feb. 19, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.
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No I have Matthews A+.


Dermott at C and Lehtonen at B- doesn't make any sense. Dermott has been good. I think expecting him to get points is why some rate him poorly, but he is excellent defensively and does add some sand paper. He moves the puck well and is not far behind Rielly in skating ability. I'd give him a B and Lehtonen a C-. Lehtonen is really not good in his own end.
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Feb. 19, 2021 at 11:03 a.m.
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Marner A+
Campbell A+
Matthews A+
Boyd A
Holl A
Simmonds A-
Nylander B+
Andersen B+
Thornton B+
Tavares B
Brodie B
Lehtonen B
Rielly B-
Hutchinson B-
Muzzin B-
Hyman B-
Spezza B-
Mikheyev B-
Brooks C+
Sandin C+
Kerfoot C+
Bogosian C+
Engvall C
Petan C
Dermott C
Barabanov C
Anderson C-
Vesey D+
Robertson D


Boyd doesn't deserve an A, give him a B sure but an A is ridiculous. Barbarov should have the lowest rating on the team, Thornton not getting an A is insulting especially when you give Simmonds an A-. Simmonds I'd give a B to, he's been better than expected but far from a game breaker, just does is job well. Hyman has been exactly what everyone expects so a A-/B+ is fair for him. Hutchinson should have won 7-1 last night so giving him a B- is weird.
Feb. 19, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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Gonna do my own. Just based on the first few weeks of the season.

Matthews: A+
Marner: A
Tavares: B- (He's been a bit sloppy and underwhelming during the last several games)
Nylander: B
Hyman: A-
Thornton: A (Let's face it, he's been better than most of us expected)
Kerfoot: B-
Mikheyev: C-
Vesey: D-
Simmonds: B+
Petan: C
Engvall: C
Spezza: B
Boyd: B+
Barabanov: D

Rielly: B
Brodie: B
Muzzin: B+
Holl: A-
Bogosian: C
Lehtonen: B
Dermott: B-

Andersen: B+
Campbell: B
Feb. 19, 2021 at 11:49 a.m.
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Gonna do my own. Just based on the first few weeks of the season.

Matthews: A+
Marner: A
Tavares: B- (He's been a bit sloppy and underwhelming during the last several games)
Nylander: B
Hyman: A-
Thornton: A (Let's face it, he's been better than most of us expected)
Kerfoot: B-
Mikheyev: C-
Vesey: D-
Simmonds: B+
Petan: C
Engvall: C
Spezza: B
Boyd: B+
Barabanov: D

Rielly: B
Brodie: B
Muzzin: B+
Holl: A-
Bogosian: C
Lehtonen: B
Dermott: B-

Andersen: B+
Campbell: B


I like these grades.
Feb. 20, 2021 at 3:37 a.m.
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Quoting: mondo
Gonna do my own. Just based on the first few weeks of the season.

Matthews: A+
Marner: A
Tavares: B- (He's been a bit sloppy and underwhelming during the last several games)
Nylander: B
Hyman: A-
Thornton: A (Let's face it, he's been better than most of us expected)
Kerfoot: B-
Mikheyev: C-
Vesey: D-
Simmonds: B+
Petan: C
Engvall: C
Spezza: B
Boyd: B+
Barabanov: D

Rielly: B
Brodie: B
Muzzin: B+
Holl: A-
Bogosian: C
Lehtonen: B
Dermott: B-

Andersen: B+
Campbell: B


Campbell gets A for playing on an injured leg and having to endure Tkchuck knees to the neck
Feb. 20, 2021 at 8:32 a.m.
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 12:13 a.m.
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Waiting till our 21 game was finished

Matthews: A+
Marner: A
Tavares: B
Nylander: B
Hyman: A-
Thornton: A (Let's face it, he's been better than most of us expected on that top line)
Kerfoot: B
Mikheyev: A- (not much scoring but puts 110% into every game)
Vesey: C- (he is trying, he makes nifty passes and puts in the effort but it just does not translate)
Simmonds: B+
Petan: D+ (needs to go back to the marlies)
Engvall: C
Spezza: A-
Boyd: B+
Barabanov: B (the effort is there and honestly this guy deserves a goal in the NHL)

Rielly: B
Brodie: B+
Muzzin: A-
Holl: B+
Bogosian: B-
Lehtonen: B (has enormous potential, a wicked shot, and has the most dangerous scoring chances on the team next to Rielly)
Dermott: B-

Andersen: B+ (freddie is getting better but still not the true freddie)
Campbell: A (played on an injury and took a knee to the neck)
Clutchinson: A (despite letting in 3 soft goals in 2 games games he has played excellent hockey and showed that if needed he can get the job done even against Calgary)
Feb. 25, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Waiting till our 21 game was finished

Matthews: A+
Marner: A
Tavares: B
Nylander: B
Hyman: A-
Thornton: A (Let's face it, he's been better than most of us expected)
Kerfoot: B
Mikheyev: A- (not much scoring but puts 110%)
Vesey: C- (he is trying, he makes nifty passes and puts in the effort but it just does not translate)
Simmonds: B+
Petan: D+ (needs to go back to the marlies)
Engvall: C
Spezza: A-
Boyd: B+
Barabanov: B (the effort is there and honestly this guy deserves a goal in the NHL)

Rielly: B
Brodie: B+
Muzzin: A-
Holl: B+
Bogosian: B-
Lehtonen: B (has enormous potential, a wicked shot, and has the most dangerous scoring chances on the team next to Rielly)
Dermott: B-

Andersen: B+ (freddie is getting better but still not the true freddie)
Campbell: A (played on an injury and took a knee to the neck)


Lehtonen last night did something incredible, instead of circling back on the PP, he went into the zone!!!
Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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yes marner is a a+
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