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Risky but

Created by: DaHabs
Initial Creation Date: Feb 20, 2021
Published: Feb 20 at 8:51
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Bowers, Shane
  2. Burakovsky, André
COL
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. Danault, Phillip
  3. 2021 4th round pick (VGK)
MTL
  1. Bonino, Nick
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
50% retained
MIN
  1. Weal, Jordan
  2. Poehling, Ryan
MTL
  1. Ekholm, Mattias
  2. Richardson, Brad
NSH
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $3,958,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
MTL
TBL
MTL
CHI
PIT
MTL
STL
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$84,157,976$0$3,137,500-$2,657,976
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW
UFA - 7
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
MIN
Bonino, Nick
$4,100,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
COL
Burakovsky, André
$4,900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Perry, Corey
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
NSH
Richardson, Brad
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NSH
Ekholm, Mattias
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Allen, Jake
$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$735,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000 ($2,325,000)
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666 ($0)
RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 1
COL
Bowers, Shane
$925,000 ($0)
C
RFA - 2

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Feb 20 at 8:53
#1
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I like the idea of adding Bonino to «replace» Danault
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Feb 20 at 9:20
#2
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no point in downgrading bura. i like danault. pass on tatar.
Feb 20 at 11:27
#3
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That's a good base trade for Ekholm and Richardson to MTL.
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Feb 20 at 11:40
#4
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MN is not adding a pick to that trade, if anything the 3rd should be going to MN. Weal is 0 value (maybe slightly negative with his $250k buried cap hit). A 3rd for Poeling is probably fair since he has another year of waivers exemption.

Bonino (half retained) is worth somewhere between a 1st and a 3rd, depending on the TDL market.
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Feb 20 at 11:56
#5
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Quoting: wabit
MN is not adding a pick to that trade, if anything the 3rd should be going to MN. Weal is 0 value (maybe slightly negative with his $250k buried cap hit). A 3rd for Poeling is probably fair since he has another year of waivers exemption.

Bonino (half retained) is worth somewhere between a 1st and a 3rd, depending on the TDL market.



Personally I think Poehling is > than bonino straight up because of age and upside plus hometown boy. Bonino is strictly a rental.
Feb 20 at 12:13
#6
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Quoting: DaHabs
Personally I think Poehling is > than bonino straight up because of age and upside plus hometown boy. Bonino is strictly a rental.


Poeling hasn't done anything of note in the pros (other than his hatty his first game). If he didn't have the extra year of waivers exemption he's Bracco value. If he isn't going to be at least a future NHL 3C then he's of 0 use to MN. I don't think he'll turn into a NHL 3C, but I'd take a risk on him as part of the return for Bonino (who I am very low on so far this year).

Bonino is worth more because he'll help you in the NHL this year and Poeling won't. MN is the team taking the risk in the trade. MTL knows what they'd be getting in Bonino.
Feb 20 at 12:30
#7
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Likes: 3,048
Quoting: JulHok92
That's a good base trade for Ekholm and Richardson to MTL.


Many teams would easily beat that offer for Ekholm.

Montreal would need to swap Kulak with a very good prospect to have a chance. Ekholm easily gets a 1st + good prospect package, possibly more with retention involved.
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Feb 20 at 2:48
#8
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Quoting: wabit
Poeling hasn't done anything of note in the pros (other than his hatty his first game). If he didn't have the extra year of waivers exemption he's Bracco value. If he isn't going to be at least a future NHL 3C then he's of 0 use to MN. I don't think he'll turn into a NHL 3C, but I'd take a risk on him as part of the return for Bonino (who I am very low on so far this year).

Bonino is worth more because he'll help you in the NHL this year and Poeling won't. MN is the team taking the risk in the trade. MTL knows what they'd be getting in Bonino.[/quote


Fair enough I can understand that perspective. Mine is that bonino has nothi g really to offer after this year wear poehling does. This will be really his first year of pro hockey. Last year was a write off for him and can’t be used to judge his true value. He is a natural leader WJC MVP. And a big game player. He will in fact be a beauty of a power forward in the nhl. That is his true value even if he never gets there that is what he is worth that is what his draft value same as every other first round d pick.

Poehlj g is on his way up bonino is on his way down and out. Like I said and cones from a big Minnesota hockey family. Really a no brainer for minny
Feb 20 at 2:50
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I don't see the Wild adding a 3rd to that. I also can't see them being interested in Poehling and Weal as a return. They'll be offered draft picks, and would probably rather have those.
Feb 20 at 3:23
#10
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 5,949
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Quoting: DaHabs
Fair enough I can understand that perspective. Mine is that bonino has nothi g really to offer after this year wear poehling does. This will be really his first year of pro hockey. Last year was a write off for him and can’t be used to judge his true value. He is a natural leader WJC MVP. And a big game player. He will in fact be a beauty of a power forward in the nhl. That is his true value even if he never gets there that is what he is worth that is what his draft value same as every other first round d pick.

Poehlj g is on his way up bonino is on his way down and out. Like I said and cones from a big Minnesota hockey family. Really a no brainer for minny


What he did in the WJC is nice, but means nothing when it comes to pro hockey. What he did last year in the AHL/NHL is what matters; and it wasn't much. He's 22 ow and in his 2nd season of pro hockey. He has potential, yes, but that's all it is at this point. Maybe he figures it out, maybe he doesn't; that is the risk for MN.

Bonino gives MTL a Danault replacement for the rest of the season in your scenario. You'll need to pay TDL prices for Bonino, other teams will be bidding on him too. In "win now" mode you pay a premium and forgo some of your future for that chance at the Cup. It's why MTL shouldn't trade Danault (better than Bonino) and just treat him like a rental they didn't have to pay for, then let him walk after the Playoffs.

If this is the best offer MN gets for Bonino they might as well just keep him and get bounced in the 1st round of the Playoffs by Vegas or COL.
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