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Mantha

Created by: SweetRevenge19
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 20, 2021
Published: Feb. 20, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Holland going all in

This Holloway for Bertuzzi thread gave me the idea.
www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/419437
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Holloway, Dylan [Reserve List]
  2. Neal, James
  3. Turris, Kyle
  4. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
NSH
  1. Samorukov, Dmitri
  2. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,864,032$341,534$1,230,000$3,635,968
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$915,000$915,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$4,000,000$4,000,000 ($2,925,000$3M$2,925,000$3M)
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
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$745,000$745,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 21, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
#51
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Quoting: Grievous
I would not trade Holloway from an Oilers perspective.

I would go: Mantha + Glendening
For: Neal + Marody + Benson + Lavoie + 2022 1st

Lavoie likely needs time in the AHL, but Marody and Benson would probably crack the Red Wing line-up today.

Neals contract is easily bought out and Detroit with have a massive amount of cap room next year and will have a huge haul at this year's draft. This gives Stevie Y a chance to clear the decks and really put his stamp on the franchise moving forward.

I am not interested in moving Samorukov at this point for a rental.


But Mantha is top of the lineup goal scoring power forward in his prime. Can’t see the Wings trading Mantha without a top prospect coming back. I understand the unwillingness to give up Holloway, but replacing him with 3 lesser prospects doesn’t make up the value.
Feb. 21, 2021 at 9:04 p.m.
#52
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
But Mantha is top of the lineup goal scoring power forward in his prime. Can’t see the Wings trading Mantha without a top prospect coming back. I understand the unwillingness to give up Holloway, but replacing him with 3 lesser prospects doesn’t make up the value.


He has never scored 30 and is frequently injured, so he comes with certain risks. At 26 he is at his peak, but he is not an elite NHL goal scorer. Bottom line, I am not trading Holloway for him, I'd rather try for Filip Forsberg who is apparently available, is the same age, has scored almost twice as much as Mantha, and would likely also be easier to acquire.
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.
#53
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Quoting: Grievous
He has never scored 30 and is frequently injured, so he comes with certain risks. At 26 he is at his peak, but he is not an elite NHL goal scorer. Bottom line, I am not trading Holloway for him, I'd rather try for Filip Forsberg who is apparently available, is the same age, has scored almost twice as much as Mantha, and would likely also be easier to acquire.


I agree.

@SweetRevenge19

Lavoie is the prospect equivalent to Mantha, not Holloway. Big, good skater, great shooter, not very impactful in other parts of the game. Holloway is a much more complete player and since he'll probably be in the NHL next September, this trade doesn't make much sense for the future.

Buying out Neal costs the Oilers just $1.9m in cap space, I don't think it's worth giving up a 1st for just $1.9M - especially when they aren't cap-strapped this summer. I've made lots of AGM's with the Oilers keeping Neal AND adding marquee UFA's, so there's no pressure at all to make this kind of deal.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2205990
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2152757
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 3:20 a.m.
#54
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
PD2001 Copenhagen Oilerfan_Bill


Giving away Holloway is stupid but I like bringing in Mantha and Ekholm would just leave a Gap at 3C and Goal remaining.
 
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