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Going Forward

Created by: noobmaster69
Initial Creation Date: Feb 17, 2021
Published: Feb 22 at 4:02
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
NSH trades Forsberg to Det on 50% retained, Det Trades him to Tor 50% retained = $1500000
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Forsberg, Fillip2$1,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Forsberg, Filip
NSH
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Niemelä, Topi [Reserve List]
  3. Anderson, Joey
  4. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2021 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
    DET
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
    Buyouts
    • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$81,299,741$0$0$200,259
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TOR
    Thornton, Joe
    $700,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Forsberg, Fillip
    $1,500,000
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    $1,645,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    $2,250,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $1,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Boyd, Travis
    $700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $700,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Andersen, Frederik
    $5,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    $2,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    $874,125
    LD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Bogosian, Zach
    $1,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Petan, Nicolas
    $775,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    NSH
    Forsberg, Filip
    $6,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    $1,250,000 ($175,000)
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Galchenyuk, Alex
    $1,050,000 ($0)
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Barabanov, Alexander
    $925,000 ($0)
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Lehtonen, Mikko
    $925,000 ($0)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Hutchinson, Michael
    $725,000 ($0)
    G
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Marincin, Martin
    $700,000 ($0)
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Feb 22 at 4:19
    #1
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    That's an interesting Detroit trade

    a 2nd round pick for nothing?

    Edit*

    on a second viewing....I am assuming they are retaining salary for you?
    aedoran liked this.
    Feb 22 at 4:28
    #2
    GM Hockeysaurus Rex
    Joined: Jul 2016
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    Thats a bad deal for Toronto. Valuewise maybe good, but literally getting rid of all RD prospect depth is ridiculously bad.
    mauston_atthews liked this.
    Feb 22 at 7:34
    #3
    Mauston Atthews
    Joined: Aug 2020
    Posts: 783
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    Quoting: SammyT_51
    Thats a bad deal for Toronto. Valuewise maybe good, but literally getting rid of all RD prospect depth is ridiculously bad.


    Oh it’s u from Twitter lol
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    Feb 22 at 8:42
    #4
    GM Hockeysaurus Rex
    Joined: Jul 2016
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    Quoting: mauston_atthews
    Oh it’s u from Twitter lol


    tears of joy
    mauston_atthews liked this.
    Feb 22 at 9:09
    #5
    Go Wings Go
    Joined: Jun 2016
    Posts: 28,999
    Likes: 6,704
    Detroit passes, We're not helping out Toronto here by retaining on Forsberg for a measly 2nd round pick.
    Feb 22 at 9:14
    #6
    Joined: Jul 2019
    Posts: 2,514
    Likes: 1,186
    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Detroit passes, We're not helping out Toronto here by retaining on Forsberg for a measly 2nd round pick.


    Ya, I'd hate to take a 2nd round pick from a division opponent to retain for 2 years you arn't going to be competitive in anyway. Your statement makes no sense.
    Feb 22 at 9:16
    #7
    Go Wings Go
    Joined: Jun 2016
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    Quoting: Byrr
    Ya, I'd hate to take a 2nd round pick from a division opponent to retain for 2 years you arn't going to be competitive in anyway. Your statement makes no sense.


    My statement makes perfect sense, No team is retaining $4 million on a player for only a 2nd round pick sorry dude but retaining $2 million for 2 years cost more then a late freaking 2nd round pick.
    Feb 22 at 9:18
    #8
    Joined: Jul 2019
    Posts: 2,514
    Likes: 1,186
    Edited Feb 22 at 9:24
    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    My statement makes perfect sense, No team is retaining $4 million on a player for only a 2nd round pick sorry dude but retaining $2 million for 2 years cost more then a late freaking 2nd round pick.


    You arn't retaining 4 million. You are retaining $3,000,000($1500000x2. Put it in your calculator if you are having trouble). The comparable for it would be the Brassard trade from Ottawa to Pittsburgh in 2018 in which Vegas retained around the same amount for a 4th round pick and Ryan Reeves. This is a trade with precedent. Saying Detroit would outright refuse it has no ground to stand on.
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    Feb 22 at 9:34
    #9
    Joined: Jul 2019
    Posts: 2,514
    Likes: 1,186
    I guess I should get into why this trade doesn't work for the Leafs since you liked my reply to his nonsense.

    The expansion draft is a major obstacle for the Leafs and this trade and is why they are looking for a rental, not a player with term. Having Forsberg for the extra season means we'd have to choose between him and Holl for the protection spots (a 7-3-1 vs a 4-4-1). Thats not going to be an easy choice and one of those players is the cost not shown here for this trade.
    Feb 22 at 10:22
    #10
    Go Wings Go
    Joined: Jun 2016
    Posts: 28,999
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    You obviously don't know how retention works? Forsberg makes $6 million on his cap hit. Between both Detroit and Nashville they can't retain more then 50% of his cap so that's basically Detroit and Nashville retaining $1.5 million each so Toronto would get his cap hit at $3 million which is 50% of his $6 million cap hit. Forsberg is worth more then what you're offering and i'm still sorry but Detroit basically eating $3 million for 2 years for a late 2nd round pick need to add another 2nd or prospect to the deal.
    Feb 22 at 11:26
    #11
    Thread Starter
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    Quoting: Byrr
    I guess I should get into why this trade doesn't work for the Leafs since you liked my reply to his nonsense.

    The expansion draft is a major obstacle for the Leafs and this trade and is why they are looking for a rental, not a player with term. Having Forsberg for the extra season means we'd have to choose between him and Holl for the protection spots (a 7-3-1 vs a 4-4-1). Thats not going to be an easy choice and one of those players is the cost not shown here for this trade.


    I think I would pick Forsberg 100% of the time. Holl has been great but maybe we can make a deal to Seattle to not take him - happened a lot in the past. Leafs look best as they have been but against a weak North division hard to match them to the other top teams. This trade is 100% win the cup this year kind of trade.
    Feb 22 at 11:39
    #12
    Joined: Dec 2017
    Posts: 666
    Likes: 231
    Nah. Detroit's not interested in late 2nd's to help the Leafs become an absolute powerhouse.
     
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