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What would a fair trade for Jake Virtanen look like

Created by: sensonfire
Initial Creation Date: Feb 22, 2021
Published: Feb 22 at 12:24
Team: 2020-21 Ottawa Senators
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2 weeks ago, Elliotte Friedman mentioned on his 31 thoughts podcast that the Sens had interest in Virtanen.

Does Virtanen have positive value in which the Sens would pay something to acquire Virtanen?

Or does Virtanen have negative value in which the Canucks are the ones paying the Sens to take him off their hands?

How much value or upside does Virtanen still have and what would a fair trade look like?

Let me know your thoughts :)
Trades
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  1. Virtanen, Jake
VAN
    ?
    Buyouts
    • Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
    • Dion Phaneuf: $1,354,167
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
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    SJS
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    OTT
    OTT
    2022
    OTT
    OTT
    TBL
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    SJS
    2023
    OTT
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$75,337,499$0$7,170,000$6,162,501
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    OTT
    Tkachuk, Brady
    $925,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Norris, Joshua
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Brown, Connor
    $3,600,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    OTT
    Paul, Nicholas
    $1,350,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    OTT
    Tierney, Chris
    $3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    OTT
    Dadonov, Evgeni
    $5,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    OTT
    Stützle, Tim
    $925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    White, Colin
    $4,750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 5
    OTT
    Batherson, Drake
    $736,666
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Dzingel, Ryan
    $3,375,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Stepan, Derek
    $6,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Watson, Austin
    $1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    OTT
    Anisimov, Artem
    $4,550,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Virtanen, Jake
    $2,550,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    OTT
    Chabot, Thomas
    $8,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 8
    OTT
    Zaitsev, Nikita
    $4,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    OTT
    Murray, Matt
    $6,250,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    OTT
    Reilly, Mike
    $1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Zub, Artem
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Daccord, Joey
    $750,000
    G
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    Brännström, Erik
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Gudbranson, Erik
    $4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Brown, Joshua
    $1,200,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    OTT
    Wolanin, Christian
    $900,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Högberg, Marcus
    $700,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    OTT
    Coburn, Braydon
    $1,700,000 ($625,000)
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Mandolese, Kevin
    $835,000 ($0)
    G
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    Shaw, Logan
    $725,000 ($0)
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    OTT
    Haley, Micheal
    $700,000 ($0)
    C
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Peca, Matthew
    $700,000 ($0)
    LW, C
    UFA - 1

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    Feb 22 at 12:26
    #1
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    He’s probably worth a 5th. Vancouver might not move him for that but you can likely have him for a 3rd max.
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    Feb 22 at 12:30
    #2
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    I don’t think the Canucks would pay to move him, but I’m sure you could have him for essentially free. However, if I’m Ottawa, I’d stay away, and give ice time to other younger and better players.
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    Feb 22 at 12:37
    #3
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    I wouldn't bother. He's better than Watson, but he isn't pushing any forwards out of the top 9, and he isn't suited to playing on the 4th line. Don't really see a spot for him, and it's only going to get more difficult for him as more young forwards come into the lineup.
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    Feb 22 at 12:37
    #4
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    I think a mid round pick. Last offseason probably cost at least a 2nd
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    Feb 22 at 12:41
    #5
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    I wouldn't bother. He's better than Watson, but he isn't pushing any forwards out of the top 9, and he isn't suited to playing on the 4th line. Don't really see a spot for him, and it's only going to get more difficult for him as more young forwards come into the lineup.


    Agreed. Let the current team grow together (Bad games and good), and re-asses in the offseason. I don't think I'd do much right now if I were the Sens GM, other than sell off a couple of minor pieces.
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    Feb 22 at 1:07
    #6
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    Agreed. Let the current team grow together (Bad games and good), and re-asses in the offseason. I don't think I'd do much right now if I were the Sens GM, other than sell off a couple of minor pieces.


    I agree. Already have Dzingel coming in a week or so, I don't think adding a forward really makes sense. Should be looking to gage the market for the pieces who won't be sticking around. Stepan, Coburn, Reilly, Logan Brown, possibly Tierney. Then get a couple of young guys up to fill the spots.

    I wouldn't be opposed to the Sens picking up a responsible defensive LD with a year or two left after this season. Would be nice to have someone steady to mentor JBD once he turns pro, though I'm sure there will be options for that in free agency so there’s no need to make a huge trade or anything.
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    Feb 22 at 1:51
    #7
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    canucks need another top 4 dman to take constant pressure on Hughes, so ottowa has no one we need.i hope we use Jake as part of a trade for a top 4 dman. In my opinion
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