NSH is going to want picks and prospects for moving all those guys. Not just all the middle of the lineup pieces BOS needs to move to make the trade fit under the cap for them.

Bruins don't have the assets to make a deal like this.

not even close

uhh...
Vaakaninen 1st rd pick 21 years old
Debrusk1st rd pick 24 years old
Beecher 1st rd pick 19 years old
Grzelcyk Top 4 D man under contract 27 years old
1st rd pick.
Vladar 23 year old solid goalie prospect.

It is literally all picks and prospects with the exception of a guy almost as good as Eckholm.

how so, I gave you the breakdown.

Factually speaking, this is very even valuewise, its just a matter of what pieces the teams all want.
Given that the bruins have expressed that they are not moving on from their young dmen, I would 100% say that this part of the trade the bruins reject.
Its possible that the bruins are interested in the Forsberg part so thats worth exploring.
In saying that, if its true that the Pred would rather draft their own guys, its likely they reject as they (for some reasom) want picks instead of player, idk, you do you.

But yeah, neither team rejects on value, its fair both ways. Both teams (or just the bruins idk) reject on pieces

Grzelcyk, DeBrusk, Moore aren't prospects. They're middle of the lineup guys NSH would have no interest in, in a rebuild. NSH actually loses cap space in this trade, and now they're spending it on role players, not top of the lineup players like Forsberg and Ekholm. Vladar has no value to NSH. Vaakanainen and Beecher aren't good enough prospects to headline a Forsberg trade. Too much gristle, not enough meat for the Preds to sink their fangs in here.

oh sorry you made a breakdown, trade must be fair then

Forsberg has this year and next year, that offer isnt even enough for a 1 year rental but to top it off he has another year left,

now while the ekhlom part MIGHT be enough, the forsberg trade is so off it doesnt matter about the ekholm part, they just drafted a goalie in the first round they dont care for a goalie prospect, moore sucks, so its vaak and grezlyck for ekholm so while that is better than the forsberg deal still nothing special at all

NSH has Saros, Ingram, and Askarov so they have no need or want for Vladar -- he adds no value.

The whole point of an Ekholm trade would be to get prospects/picks, not another defenseman that will need expansion draft protection -- so Grz isn't the right piec for NSH.

Debrusk + Vaak are nice pieces, but if those are the big pieces in a Forsberg and Ekholm trade (and Haula retained too), then that's a really poor trade by Poile. I'm not that high on Beecher.

That 1st rounder will be a late one if this team is able to add players like Forsberg and Ekholm.

Ultimately, this just isn't enough and not the right pieces for NSH.

I think the basic structure of a trade for the NSH players you're targeting would be more in line with...
Forsberg --> 1st + 3rd + A prospect (could even consider another add, he'll be expensive)
Ekholm --> 1st + B prospect + C prospect
Haula retained, emphasis on retained --> 2nd -- otherwise, a 3rd.

I'm not completely sold on DeBrusk. I have serious doubts he becomes a guy who can regularly hit 20 goals. And I think a 1st, 3rd & A prospect is a little low for Forsberg, depending on the definition of A prospect. For example, even though he's BOS's best one, I wouldn't have Studnicka in that category. If it's someone like Caufield or Robertson, then NSH starts seeing some value.

I agree with everything else in this post though.

Yeah, really Debrusk and Vaak are n̶i̶c̶e̶ fine pieces. That was more my sentiment.

And I agree on the Forsberg part. Even as I was typing it, I thought it would actually be more expensive -- which I why I added the parentheses. But yeah, I don't consider Studnicka an A prospect even though some BOS fans probably do. There would have to be league consensus that this is a legit A prospect. Forsberg is NSH's best asset if they decide to trade him. He would bring a very nice haul for them. But I'd still probably rather just keep him and resign him in all honesty.

I am not sure your assessments on the Bruins players are fair. Grzelcyk and or Debrusk could easily be moved for a 1st +. If you really did have no interest in having NHL players on your roster.

The other part is whoever trades for either will be a serious contender, so the picks will be late no matter what.

I see what you are saying, but you are looking with a ton of tunnel vision. The hope here would be to stay competitive while re-tooling. What you don't want is Josi, Fabbro, Arvidsson asking for trades because they are surrounded by Rocco Grimaldi, Sean Malone and a bunch of Futures.

Haula isn't good. We are talking about 800K retention. The Bruins have a ton of space. Moore doesn't need to be a part either. I think you will be shocked for what guys go for.

Grzelcyk is far better than you are giving him credit for.

1st +!? in what world? LOL

If Debrusk, who is only 2 years younger that Forsberg and significantly worse (not saying he is bad, but he is definitely a step down from Forsberg), is the best piece in a Forsberg trade then that would be an immense disappointment.

You mention tunnel vision, but Forsberg and Ekholm are significantly better than any piece BOS is giving up in this deal -- so the only tunnel vision I can see here is the overvaluing of pieces being offered by BOS.

And Grz holds no value in this deal because NSH won't trade Ekholm for another defenseman that needs expansion draft protection, with few exceptions -- Grz not being one of them.

If Forsberg and/or Ekholm hit the block, then there will be significantly better offers than this deal.

BOS just doesn't have the pieces to swing both Ekholm + Forsberg.

-- as for the Haula retention -- NSH will probably retain on 3 contracts prior to the deadline if they truly sell off. Haula will not be one of them considering it is small already. So if you want that one retained, you would have to pay more.

Uhh... John Moore was a first round pick ... lol.