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overpayment for subpar talent

Created by: Zmach
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2021
Published: Feb. 22, 2021
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We can't clone Draisaitl but this is close.
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  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Holloway, Dylan [Reserve List]
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,014,032$341,534$3,730,000$3,485,968
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 3
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$915,000$915,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
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$745,000$745,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
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KFTW
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“We can't clone Draisaitl but this is close.”

If he turns out 75% of Drai , I’ll be very happy. He looks like a star.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
“We can't clone Draisaitl but this is close.”

If he turns out 75% of Drai , I’ll be very happy. He looks like a star.


Agreed. And he's doing this at 18 which is pretty super. Hopefully they can protect him and keep him healthy.
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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Or be patient and watch Holloway turn out to be just as good. Keep broberg might come in very handy if klef announces an early retirement.
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
“We can't clone Draisaitl but this is close.”

If he turns out 75% of Drai , I’ll be very happy. He looks like a star.


He's going to be a 60 point player. I would actually compare him more to RNH, Draisaitl is quite a bit bigger and a better shooter so he can drive the net more.
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
“We can't clone Draisaitl but this is close.”

If he turns out 75% of Drai , I’ll be very happy. He looks like a star.


Would you make this trade? Just curious. As an Oilers fan it's a little to much to soon. Holloway is looking like a top 10 pick right now. I've been so up and down with Broberg, he can skate miles but won't know how his game translates until he plays. And then the first is anyone's guess
Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
Or be patient and watch Holloway turn out to be just as good. Keep broberg might come in very handy if klef announces an early retirement.


Samorukov is ready to make the jump to the NHL.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: JmoneyTalk
Would you make this trade? Just curious. As an Oilers fan it's a little to much to soon. Holloway is looking like a top 10 pick right now. I've been so up and down with Broberg, he can skate miles but won't know how his game translates until he plays. And then the first is anyone's guess


I would have to insist that holloway + a first is equal value to Stutzle right now but to actually get him you would need to throw in something big.
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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Samorukov is ready to make the jump to the NHL.


Maybe but I’m high on broberg guy skates like the wind.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Zmach
He's going to be a 60 point player. I would actually compare him more to RNH, Draisaitl is quite a bit bigger and a better shooter so he can drive the net more.


Stutzle’s speed and stick handling are elite. If you even watch him on the PP, he can find open guys very easily with his vision too. And now he can shoot, watch out. I think he will be way better than a 60pt player. Just wait till you play him at centre between Alex Formenton and a guy like Dylan Guenther
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Stutzle’s speed and stick handling are elite. If you even watch him on the PP, he can find open guys very easily with his vision too. And now he can shoot, watch out. I think he will be way better than a 60pt player. Just wait till you play him at centre between Alex Formenton and a guy like Dylan Guenther


yes I like him very much. Even before the draft I said i'd take Stutzle number 1 or trade down and still get him.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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Samorukov is ready to make the jump to the NHL.


With his shoulder injury, it might set him back a few months. I'd expect him to play 20 games in the AHL next year and earn a call up. Unless he has a great camp obviously.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:53 p.m.
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yes I like him very much. Even before the draft I said i'd take Stutzle number 1 or trade down and still get him.


60pt player isn’t aiming very high tho. I think he will be a 70-80pt player
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: JmoneyTalk
Would you make this trade? Just curious. As an Oilers fan it's a little to much to soon. Holloway is looking like a top 10 pick right now. I've been so up and down with Broberg, he can skate miles but won't know how his game translates until he plays. And then the first is anyone's guess


2022 is probably the deepest draft in several decades. It would be NUTS to trade away that pick without totally winning the trade.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
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Stutzle is going to turn out to be the best player in his draft class. I wanted him in Detroit so bad.
Feb. 22, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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The Spawn is back
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Quoting: csick
“We can't clone Draisaitl but this is close.”

If he turns out 75% of Drai , I’ll be very happy. He looks like a star.


I can't wait to see them in some sort of National team action together. I think Drai and Stutzle, with Germany's decent set of goaltenders, could upset some pretty good teams almost singlehandedly in a game where they are on fire.
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Feb. 22, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.
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I can't wait to see them in some sort of National team action together. I think Drai and Stutzle, with Germany's decent set of goaltenders, could upset some pretty good teams almost singlehandedly in a game where they are on fire.


Reichel is gonna be a player too
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