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gibson

Created by: leafs_RtheBest
Initial Creation Date: Feb 22, 2021
Published: Feb 22 at 5:49
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
gibson seems to possibly maybe idk be up for trade discussion... getting a goalie like him could seriously be the missing piece for the leafs next season.
is this enough too much too little for gibson? pls comment i'll edit following suggestions :)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dermott, Travis5$2,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hyman, Zach6$4,000,000
Boyd, Travis1$750,000
Thornton, Joe1$750,000
Simmonds, Wayne1$1,350,000
Spezza, Jason1$750,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
TOR
  1. Gibson, John ($850,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Amirov, Rodion [Reserve List]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (VGK)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,491,450$0$0$8,550
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$750,000
C, LW
UFA
TOR
Boyd, Travis
$750,000
C, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ANA
Gibson, John
$5,550,000
G
NTC
UFA - 6
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$2,750,000
LD
RFA
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Feb 22 at 5:53
#1
KFTW
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Gibson would cost a monster package
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Feb 22 at 5:53
#2
Joined: Nov 2018
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Not close without 6 years of retention let alone with it
Feb 22 at 5:53
#3
Joined: Feb 2017
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No offence, this doesnt even touch Gibson in terms of what the Ducks would want. It would take Nylander plus plus just to get the conversation started.
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Feb 22 at 5:55
#4
Let'sGoBlues | WPGv4
Joined: Jun 2016
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Goalie trade value is a tough thing to figure out. Gibson is one of the best in the league (the best IMO) and signed through his prime. He is easily worth all of that package to TOR, and the Ducks are in a weird situation where the only thing keeping them from a clear bottom 3 tank job is Gibson... so I think it's interesting. But I also don't think the Ducks will trade their franchise goalie until they've seen Dostal in the show. Small gripe but retaining (even 800k) for 6 yrs is not something that the Ducks would do, they are pretty tight with their money. In terms of value, I think the Ducks deserve a proven piece as part of the deal, just so they don't risk ending up with nothing. So I'd think they ask for Nylander as the big piece and see what happens.
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Feb 22 at 5:59
#5
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 471
Likes: 121
Quoting: A_K
Goalie trade value is a tough thing to figure out. Gibson is one of the best in the league (the best IMO) and signed through his prime. He is easily worth all of that package to TOR, and the Ducks are in a weird situation where the only thing keeping them from a clear bottom 3 tank job is Gibson... so I think it's interesting. But I also don't think the Ducks will trade their franchise goalie until they've seen Dostal in the show. Small gripe but retaining (even 800k) for 6 yrs is not something that the Ducks would do, they are pretty tight with their money. In terms of value, I think the Ducks deserve a proven piece as part of the deal, just so they don't risk ending up with nothing. So I'd think they ask for Nylander as the big piece and see what happens.


thanks for that smile
the 800k can be navigated with contract negotiations and the like but i recognize that's not the main issue here
nylander is certainly a heavy cost to give up but i guess they could trade nylander and then simply go after someone in FA to replace willy for the next 2-3 years and keep amirov in that case.
how does nylander + liljegren + 2nd/3rd sound?
Feb 22 at 6:05
#6
HadesOfSocal
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 3,936
Likes: 1,648
Nope
Feb 22 at 6:06
#7
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 5,751
Likes: 2,715
Not enough IMO. Gibson is a top 3 goaltender in the league and has managed to be consistent for years, despite playing on one of the worst teams in the league. I don't see Anaheim trading him, but if they were, it would likely cost 3 top end pieces and a lesser piece or two.
Feb 22 at 6:10
#8
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 1,989
Likes: 1,123
That doesn’t get you Gibson. You’re trading for an elite goalie on a killer contract, you gotta give up something special, a prospect a pick not a guy running out of prospect runway, a late 1st or a guy that was just drafted 15th overall. Feels like quantity over actual quality.
Feb 22 at 6:44
#9
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,218
Likes: 239
I know it's not the main reason for the post but Vegas would never trade a 2nd for Kerfoot
 
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