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Revamped bottom six

Created by: Anus_McLeod
Initial Creation Date: Feb 24, 2021
Published: Feb 24 at 8:36
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Team Explanation
Hopefully a little more scoring but also improved defensive prowess. Gives Colorado long term cap flexibility as well.
Trades
COL
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
NSH
  1. Donskoi, Joonas
  2. Kamenev, Vladislav [Reserve List]
COL
  1. Staal, Eric
BUF
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (COL)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Ian Cole: $800,000 (19%)
Buried
  • Greg Pateryn: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2023
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$75,213,054$0$5,057,500$6,286,946
Left WingCenterRight Wing
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
COL
Burakovsky, André
$4,900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Saad, Brandon
$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
NSH
Järnkrok, Calle
$2,000,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
BUF
Staal, Eric
$1,625,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Jost, Tyson
$874,125
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
COL
Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Toews, Devon
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
COL
Byram, Bowen
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
COL
Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
COL
Werner, Adam
$842,500
G
RFA - 1
COL
Graves, Ryan
$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
COL
Timmins, Conor
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
COL
Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Francouz, Pavel
$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
COL
Gilbert, Dennis
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
COL
Dries, Sheldon
$771,750 ($0)
C
UFA - 1
COL
Miska, Hunter
$725,000 ($0)
G
RFA - 2
COL
MacDonald, Jacob
$725,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 2
COL
O'Connor, Logan
$725,000 ($0)
RW
RFA - 2
COL
Renouf, Daniel
$700,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Megna, Jayson
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Feb 24 at 8:38
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@Richard88

How I picture it.
Feb 24 at 8:43
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Colorado can have Staal for just the 3rd. They already have a 3c probably for next year in Arttu Ruotsalainen.
Feb 24 at 8:47
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
Richard88

How I picture it.


Interesting idea.

Why would Nashville do that trade though? Jarnkrok costs half as much as Donskoi and produces basically the same amount of offense. If they move Jarnkrok it's because they're commiting to a rebuild, and Donskoi does nothing for them. Jost is young enough to fit a rebuild though so makes a lot more sense for them.
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Feb 24 at 8:49
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Quoting: Sabres923
Colorado can have Staal for just the 3rd. They already have a 3c probably for next year in Arttu Ruotsalainen.


Don't you think it's a little ambitious to expect a 23 year old 'prospect' with zero experience in North America to just slide into a 3C role?

Buffalo made a similar mistake by moving O'Reilly thinking that Mittelstadt could replace him and that didn't work out great.
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Feb 24 at 8:51
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Quoting: Richard88
Interesting idea.

Why would Nashville do that trade though? Jarnkrok costs half as much as Donskoi and produces basically the same amount of offense. If they move Jarnkrok it's because they're commiting to a rebuild, and Donskoi does nothing for them. Jost is young enough to fit a rebuild though so makes a lot more sense for them.


That's the tricky part. It probably takes a sweetener better than Kamenev, but I put him in since they drafted him.

Logic for them would be to still try and be competitive while also rebuilding a bit. Otherwise maybe a guy like Forsberg bails. Whether that logic is sound is questionable but that is my thought process.
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Feb 24 at 8:54
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Quoting: Richard88
Don't you think it's a little ambitious to expect a 23 year old 'prospect' with zero experience in North America to just slide into a 3C role?

Buffalo made a similar mistake by moving O'Reilly thinking that Mittelstadt could replace him and that didn't work out great.


Arttu is already in Rochester playing top line minutes in the ahl.
Feb 24 at 8:59
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Quoting: Richard88
Don't you think it's a little ambitious to expect a 23 year old 'prospect' with zero experience in North America to just slide into a 3C role?

Buffalo made a similar mistake by moving O'Reilly thinking that Mittelstadt could replace him and that didn't work out great.


He has played in 216 Liga games. He’s playing in the AHL now. And is wasting his time. His defense has been really good too. Hopefully they can see him in NHL action this year.
Feb 24 at 9:55
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My move if I were Joe would be to work a trade for Staal, giving the coaching staff the chance to put pieces around him to find what works with a veteran center. It would be great to move out one of Donny or JTC but I don't know. I think you'd almost have to give the pick in order for them to take him but, as mentioned, they may not be able to protect Compher but they also may not want to - if he gets picked, so what? I keep coming back to the Avs needing that 3C situation to improve before they can do much else.
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Feb 24 at 10:13
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Quoting: Richard88
Don't you think it's a little ambitious to expect a 23 year old 'prospect' with zero experience in North America to just slide into a 3C role?

Buffalo made a similar mistake by moving O'Reilly thinking that Mittelstadt could replace him and that didn't work out great.

They were also asking Mittelstadt to replace O’Reilly as the second line center, less than a calendar year out of high school. They were asking for too much. Artuu is significantly more experienced and older than Casey was when this was being asked of him. I’d be more concerned if they plan to ask Dylan Cozens to play second line center next year.
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Feb 24 at 10:33
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
That's the tricky part. It probably takes a sweetener better than Kamenev, but I put him in since they drafted him.

Logic for them would be to still try and be competitive while also rebuilding a bit. Otherwise maybe a guy like Forsberg bails. Whether that logic is sound is questionable but that is my thought process.


That's reasonable. They'd probably bite if you offered Donskoi + 3rd I think. They're unlikely to be a very attractive destination for free agents the next couple of years if they're rebuilding, so swapping Janrkrok for a guy with a little extra term might work if they also get that futures piece in the form of a pick.
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Feb 24 at 10:36
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Quoting: wojme
Arttu is already in Rochester playing top line minutes in the ahl.


Quoting: Sabres923
He has played in 216 Liga games. He’s playing in the AHL now. And is wasting his time. His defense has been really good too. Hopefully they can see him in NHL action this year.


Ah sorry, his capfriendly page didn't include AHL stats so I overlooked that. Thanks for clarifying. That makes a lot more sense that he could be an option next season if he's in the AHL now, especially if he gets a callup at some stage and does well.
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Feb 24 at 10:41
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
My move if I were Joe would be to work a trade for Staal, giving the coaching staff the chance to put pieces around him to find what works with a veteran center. It would be great to move out one of Donny or JTC but I don't know. I think you'd almost have to give the pick in order for them to take him but, as mentioned, they may not be able to protect Compher but they also may not want to - if he gets picked, so what? I keep coming back to the Avs needing that 3C situation to improve before they can do much else.


If we're paying a 3rd + prospect sort of price for Staal there's a case for going all-in and just doing Compher+1st instead. The difference between a late 1st and 3rd + prospect might not even be that great given that this draft class is considered weak and also underscouted.

I agree with your last point about a 3C. The moves I've suggested for Iafallo and Jarnkrok have always been in conjuction with adding a 3C, rather than being the only additions. Avs 100% need a 3C.
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