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This is how you move on from Price

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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
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Published: Feb. 24, 2021
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    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:11 a.m.
    #1
    Hop on the Slaftrain
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    That's a poor compensation tbh.
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    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:12 a.m.
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    montreal is going to have to eat some of his contract as well if they want to move on from him.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.
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    montreal is going to have to eat some of his contract as well if they want to move on from him.


    Marinaro just said Price is untradeable, and that we’d need to retain half his salary. He’s absolutely lost his mind. Geoff Molson, Bell owns TSN690 right? Can you please fire this guy? Why are you supporting him having a platform to spew this nonsense?
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wreckless
    Marinaro just said Price is untradeable, and that we’d need to retain half his salary. He’s absolutely lost his mind. Geoff Molson, Bell owns TSN690 right? Can you please fire this guy? Why are you supporting him having a platform to spew this nonsense?


    I'm really confused as to how Habs fans are so oblivious as to how bad Price has been for the past 4 years.
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    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wreckless
    Marinaro just said Price is untradeable, and that we’d need to retain half his salary. He’s absolutely lost his mind. Geoff Molson, Bell owns TSN690 right? Can you please fire this guy? Why are you supporting him having a platform to spew this nonsense?


    I would say he is untradeable right now,. even at 5.25m for price, his numbers are one of the worst in the league out of all goalies. No positive assets would be coming to montreal in moving Price, they have 0 leverage due to his contract
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.
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    I'm really confused as to how Habs fans are so oblivious as to how bad Price has been for the past 4 years.


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    hes been BAD BAD this year
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    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:23 a.m.
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    Carey Price is average and has the worst contract in the NHL. It was the worst contract in the NHL the moment it was signed
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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    hes been BAD BAD this year


    Yup. Someone just posted the 4 year list on Twitter and it was wild.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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    Yup. Someone just posted the 4 year list on Twitter and it was wild.


    yeah hes been declining rapidly, His level of play and and contract are a real problem,.
    The old saying show me a good coach and ill show you a good goalie....the opposite can be said show me a bad coach and ill show you a bad goalie
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    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.
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    yeah hes been declining rapidly, His level of play and and contract are a real problem,.
    The old saying show me a good coach and ill show you a good goalie....the opposite can be said show me a bad coach and ill show you a bad goalie


    Yup. I honestly think he's better than his numbers, but there is absolutely NO way that you could ever convince me to take that contract.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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    Edited Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
    Quoting: coga16
    I would say he is untradeable right now,. even at 5.25m for price, his numbers are one of the worst in the league out of all goalies. No positive assets would be coming to montreal in moving Price, they have 0 leverage due to his contract


    Good luck with that opinion. Who are your top 5 in the NHL goalies that you’d want starting game one of the playoffs this season?
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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    Good luck with that opinion. Who are you top 5 in the NHL goalies that you’d want starting game one of the playoffs this season?


    its not an opinion its statistically data
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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    Yup. I honestly think he's better than his numbers, but there is absolutely NO way that you could ever convince me to take that contract.


    last year the excuse was that the Defense was bad...but however during the season I think it was Dom from the athletic did a deep dive into this and showed that even when the Defense was improving in terms of shot suppression, Prices GSAx and stats were remaining poor,
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    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:36 a.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Carey Price is average and has the worst contract in the NHL. It was the worst contract in the NHL the moment it was signed


    If the Sabres had Price, Eichel might actually want to be there.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.
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    its not an opinion its statistically data


    You saying he’s untradeable is an opinion.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:41 a.m.
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    You saying he’s untradeable is an opinion.


    with his contract and level of play, he is. in a flat cap year and half the league on LTIR to be cap compliant, no one can or wants to trade for a 10.5m below average goalie
    If you are trading price you are taking 10.5m back in bad contracts with a lot of term on them as well. there is no positive value return for montreal

    and since Prices contract is signing bonus heavy its buyout proof as well, no team willingly wants that
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.
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    with his contract and level of play, he is. in a flat cap year and half the league on LTIR to be cap compliant, no one can or wants to trade for a 10.5m below average goalie
    If you are trading price you are taking 10.5m back in bad contracts with a lot of term on them as well. there is no positive value return for montreal

    and since Prices contract is signing bonus heavy its buyout proof as well, no team willingly wants that


    An opinion.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:48 a.m.
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    An opinion.


    or using logic with the cap and the state of the league

    Ok show a price trade that makes sense for the team acquiring him, and making that team cap compliant, and a team that price would be willing to waive his NMC for
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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    or using logic with the cap and the state of the league

    Ok show a price trade that makes sense for the team acquiring him, and making that team cap compliant, and a team that price would be willing to waive his NMC for


    Do you have a problem with the notion that something you might say would be an opinion rather than a fact? It’s okay to have opinions, just call it an opinion. Arguing against the notion that your opinion is, in fact, an opinion, is one of the first signs of mental health issues.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:56 a.m.
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    Do you have a problem with the notion that something you might say would be an opinion rather than a fact? It’s okay to have opinions, just call it an opinion. Arguing against the notion that your opinion is, in fact, an opinion, is one of the first signs of mental health issues.


    And do you have a problem with having a conversation...you are the one who first said that debating the idea of that price is untradeable. I gave you my logic with back up of why I agree with that statement, now lets hear yours...you are arguing that is tradable so what is your logic, or do you have 0 conviction behind your opinion and just fan boying bc you don't like anyone talking poorly about Price?

    You an dismiss the idea all you want saying its just an opinion, but lets here yours.

    And dont be passive aggressive with patronizing someone trying to use the idea of mental health in an attempt to insult them, that is pathetic of you
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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    And do you have a problem with having a conversation...you are the one who first said that debating the idea of that price is untradeable. I gave you my logic with back up of why I agree with that statement, now lets hear yours...you are arguing that is tradable so what is your logic, or do you have 0 conviction behind your opinion and just fan boying bc you don't like anyone talking poorly about Price?

    You an dismiss the idea all you want saying its just an opinion, but lets here yours.

    And dont be passive aggressive with patronizing someone trying to use the idea of mental health in an attempt to insult them, that is pathetic of you


    It’s very difficult to have a conversation with someone who immediately refutes that their opinion is, in fact, an opinion. You were, in the same post, invited to suggest who your top 5 would be to start the playoffs this season. Not surprisingly, you didn’t offer your point of view.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 12:06 p.m.
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    It’s very difficult to have a conversation with someone who immediately refutes that their opinion is, in fact, an opinion. You were, in the same post, invited to suggest who your top 5 would be to start the playoffs this season. Not surprisingly, you didn’t offer your point of view.


    DO you have reading comprehension issues, I said I provided logic and back up to my opinion. and now you are deflecting...come on what is your rebtuall...how is he tradable.
    Ok you want my Top 5 goalies who would I start over Price game 1 in the playoffs. With how they are playing this seaso I would start Vasilevskiy, Hellebuyck, Kuemper, MAF, Grubauer. Some of the top goalies in terms of Sv%, GAA, as well as GSAx and GSSA. Goalies who have won in th playoffs, cup winners, or just statistically solid goalies through the past few years.

    There is your top 5, now you are going to avoid the topic of explaining your opinion of why price is tradable and focus on why you think Price is better than one of those goalies.
    Stay on topic, its time for you to provide the logic behind your statement
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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    montreal is going to have to eat some of his contract as well if they want to move on from him.


    Price has 5 more Years on his contract after this. Even if they ate half of his contract there is no way Seattle even thinks about taking price.

    He needs to waive his NMC too or they will lose allen.
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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    If the Sabres had Price, Eichel might actually want to be there.


    price would be 3rd on our team in save percentage.

    what a mess until he is 39 years old
    Feb. 24, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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    Price has 5 more Years on his contract after this. Even if they ate half of his contract there is no way Seattle even thinks about taking price.

    He needs to waive his NMC too or they will lose allen.


    Oh I know. It’s very unlikely he is traded, his contract is buy out proof being 70m of his 84m in singing bonus money.

    It really is untradeable

    Teams didn’t want maf at 50% with a 2nd pick attached to him for free. No one is going to go out of their way for price with what’s remaining on his contract
     
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