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Sharks Rumor

Created by: OutCold13
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2021
Published: Feb. 24, 2021
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So the rumor I read is that the Sharks are looking to retool, by moving some of their long term contracts. The guys I traded below were the names, if I remember correctly, that were mentioned. I guess I was dumbfounded after reading it, who is going to jump on these grenades?
I am just going to ask the many fine GM's of CapFriendly to help Doug Wilson out and get creative to help retool the Sharks.
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SJS
  1. Skinner, Jeff ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
This one was offered up in the article but yuck all the way around for both teams.
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SJS
    Who wants him, where would he except a trade to, and what's the return?
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    SJS
      Who wants him, where would he except a trade to, and what's the return?
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      SJS
        Who wants him, where would he except a trade to, and what's the return?
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        SJS
          Who wants him, where would he except a trade to, and what's the return?
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:14 p.m.
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          Fascinating topic, those contracts certainly aren’t friendly. Curious to see how this plays out.
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:16 p.m.
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          kane’s the only guy who might have value at this point
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:17 p.m.
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          There might be an ECHL team for Jones
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:18 p.m.
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          Burns for Subban...lol not a Devil's fan or Sharks fan, but it would be funny to see two horrible defensive players on the same team.
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:18 p.m.
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          Quoting: Alfie11
          kane’s the only guy who might have value at this point


          Imagine saying that 3 years ago and people would’ve said your crazy. It’s kinda sad to see if you ask me. There was a time I remember when Burns and Karlsson straight up dominated.
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:22 p.m.
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          Kane’s actually legitimately valuable unlike a lot of those other contracts. But yeah it’ll be tough to get rid of some of those. Burns is another one which isn’t as terrible but I doubt many teams even entertain the though or taking on some of these guy.

          As I’ve said before though sign me up for a Vlasic - Skinner swap.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:22 p.m.
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          Lol. Yeah all they need to do is trade 4 or 5 awful contracts and then it's smooth sailing!
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:23 p.m.
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          No thx
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:23 p.m.
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          We would need to take dead cap back because almost every team is up against the cap but Burns and Kane have value. We are stuck with Karlsson, Vlasic and Jones.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:27 p.m.
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          Karlsson is immovable, moving him on that contract would be nearly impossible.

          Burns make have some value but you’re either retaining or taking on a bad contract. But maybe you could get a package of B-prospects or mid round picks.

          Kane I think would have legit value; you’re taking money back too but maybe you could get a late 1st rounder for him

          Jones is going to be bought out this offseason and they’ll just completely redo their goaltending, probably a lot like the Blackhawks did, taking a bunch of unproven guys and crossing their fingers one pans out
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:37 p.m.
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          Vlasic for Skinner was shot down my Elliotte Friedman if I remember.

          Its a good time for the Sharks to find somewhere that will take Burns at 50% retained, absolutely some team will pay for a 4M Burns who is leading the league in ice time and has looked really solid this year.

          The only place Karlsson is going is the LTIR

          Can't see Kane being moved, just too much money for too long for a team to want him right now.

          Jones is likely to be in the AHL very soon...

          If the Sharks are going full rebuild, now might be a good time to find a spot for Hertl. Meier has also struggled this year and if he rebounds, should be considered as a piece at the deadline.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
          Kane’s actually legitimately valuable unlike a lot of those other contracts. But yeah it’ll be tough to get rid of some of those. Burns is another one which isn’t as terrible but I doubt many teams even entertain the though or taking on some of these guy.

          As I’ve said before though sign me up for a Vlasic - Skinner swap.


          Burns's contract probably isn't as bad as it is made out to be on this site.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.
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          Quoting: OutCold13
          Burns's contract probably isn't as bad as it is made out to be on this site.


          It isn’t. I can concede that it isn’t good, but a lot of people on here like to pretend it’s as bad as Eriksson or Vlasic which just isn’t the case.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.
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          Quoting: OutCold13
          Burns's contract probably isn't as bad as it is made out to be on this site.


          Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
          It isn’t. I can concede that it isn’t good, but a lot of people on here like to pretend it’s as bad as Eriksson or Vlasic which just isn’t the case.


          It's certainly not as bad as folks make it out to be. Obviously it would be nice if it were 2-3 years shorter though. Much more moveable too.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.
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          Quoting: OutCold13
          Burns's contract probably isn't as bad as it is made out to be on this site.


          People here seem to think Couture also has some terrible, unmovable contract, when 8 mil is probably the going rate for a decent 1C/elite 2C.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.
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          Quoting: MJC13
          People here seem to think Couture also has some terrible, unmovable contract, when 8 mil is probably the going rate for a decent 1C/elite 2C.


          Coutures contract is totally fine minus the term. He’s worth every penny of what he’s getting paid at the moment, but when he declines in maybe 3-4 years it might get ugly.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:06 p.m.
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          Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
          Coutures contract is totally fine minus the term. He’s worth every penny of what he’s getting paid at the moment, but when he declines in maybe 3-4 years it might get ugly.


          Agree, but a team trading for Couture probably wants to win now, and has less concerns for 4+ years down the line. So IMO his value is still very high, at least higher than what I see a lot of people valuing him on this site.
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          Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:12 p.m.
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          San Jose would be blessed to do the Buffalo trade. Vlasic is toast, Skinner is just hated by the coach and plays less than 12 minutes a game. San Jose has to pay Buffalo a lot to do that trade
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.
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          Quoting: Shibbal18
          San Jose would be blessed to do the Buffalo trade. Vlasic is toast, Skinner is just hated by the coach and plays less than 12 minutes a game. San Jose has to pay Buffalo a lot to do that trade


          I guess I see it the other way due to term and AAV, but it is a mute point both players are not guys anyone wants.
          Feb. 24, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.
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          Quoting: OutCold13
          I guess I see it the other way due to term and AAV, but it is a mute point both players are not guys anyone wants.


          Skinner can easily rebound and more than likely will. His stats are a direct result of being buried by Krueger
          Feb. 25, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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          Quoting: Shibbal18
          Skinner can easily rebound and more than likely will. His stats are a direct result of being buried by Krueger


          I may be mistaken, but he is in his 3rd year in Buffalo and has regressed every year. I'd move him while there is time.
          Feb. 25, 2021 at 1:04 a.m.
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          The only issue with finding suitors is that these guys have NMC/NTC... Karlsson and Vlasic have complete power over where they go/if they even wanna go. They could flat out reject and stay with the team. Kane, Burns and Jones all have 3-team lists. They could easily submit 3 teams that would never go for them because of their cap and it ends there. If they did give real teams though, a deal would be so hard to strike because of how tight cap is. As mentioned, SJ would have to take cap back.
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          Feb. 25, 2021 at 1:43 a.m.
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          burns and kane are only ones with value. vlasic for skinner. intresting deal for sure. i would be for it personally
          Feb. 25, 2021 at 1:54 a.m.
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          Quoting: Shibbal18
          San Jose would be blessed to do the Buffalo trade. Vlasic is toast, Skinner is just hated by the coach and plays less than 12 minutes a game. San Jose has to pay Buffalo a lot to do that trade


          call him what you want. vlasic at least can still be used. Stick him with someone who can skate and you can use him as a valuable bottom 4 pairing. i mean look at vlasics advanced stats, guy is at 70 percent d zone start time and majority of the time has played with rookie d partner on the 3rd pair. Skinner might have more in the tank but look at his stats. A. 1 pt for a guy your paying 8 mil a year. B. His possession stats are awful.

          I still think SJ would have to throw in a sweetner but its as lopsided as your saying here
          Feb. 25, 2021 at 7:01 a.m.
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          Quoting: OutCold13
          I may be mistaken, but he is in his 3rd year in Buffalo and has regressed every year. I'd move him while there is time.


          2 years with Krueger
           
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