Chucky Makes a Trade

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 of 1

Created by: owentippett

Team: 2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 25, 2021

Published: Feb. 25, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

So we all know Philly's defence has been their biggest problem this season, and a lot of defencemen have already been mentioned on here (i.e. Ekholm, Schmidt, Manson, Hamilton, etc.). I wonder what each of you think of a deal like this? I just saw a post where SJ is looking to sell guys with long-term contracts to try and start the rebuild. Using that knowledge, this is what I came up with to put a spin on things.

In regards to Seattle, I haven't made a post in a while because obviously adding a defenceman prior to the offseason means we either lose the defenceman we add, or one of Provorov, Sanheim, or Myers. That said, let's assume Chuck goes the route of bribing Seattle to take a player that PHI would want them to take, and pay them off with pick(s). Just for this scenario, to assume we don't lose anyone in the top 4.

Trades

PHI

Burns, Brent ($1,500,000 retained)

SJS

Hägg, Robert
Rubtsov, German
Sandström, Felix
2021 1st round pick (PHI)
2022 5th round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

Is this realistic? Idk what SJ is looking for, and this contract isn't the best for an aging defenceman. Let me know.

PHI

SJS

Niskanen, Matt

Additional Details:

Retired

PHI

SJS

Gustafsson, Erik

Additional Details:

Send to the moon idc

Buyouts

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$68,448,257	$66,037	$582,500	$13,051,743

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Giroux, Claude $4,137,500$4,137,500 RW, C NMC UFA - 2	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 2	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
van Riemsdyk, James $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,571,429 C NMC UFA - 6	Voracek, Jakub $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Lindblom, Oskar $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 3	Patrick, Nolan $874,125$874,125 C, RW UFA - 1	Farabee, Joel $925,000$925,000 ($500,000$500K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Raffl, Michael $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Laughton, Scott $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,075,000$1,075,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 5	Burns, Brent $3,780,000$3,780,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 5	Hart, Carter $730,833$730,833 ($82,500$82K) G RFA - 1
Sanheim, Travis $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Elliott, Brian $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Myers, Philippe $2,550,000$2,550,000 RD UFA - 3
	Braun, Justin $1,800,000$1,800,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Frost, Morgan $863,333$863,333 C RFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Sushko, Maksim $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($87,500$88K) RW UFA - 2
Prosser, Nate $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1
Lyon, Alex $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:04 a.m.

swinny

Joined: Mar. 2017

Posts: 4,789

Likes: 2,008

I kinda like it.

Philly is missing Niskanen's vet presene (Braun just isn't it lol). Burns can still play 20 effective minutes a game, and with Philly's talent, I suspect Burns just might look like Burns again. I just see how it can stablize the back end.

The Sharks have to entertain it - just flat out it gets them out of the contract.

owentippett liked this.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:12 a.m.

owentippett

Thread Starter

Joined: May 2019

Posts: 426

Likes: 155

Quoting: swinny

My exact thoughts. I love Braun though, but yes he isn't the go-to veteran presence that is still quick and logs large minutes. I'm just not sure if this proposal is legitimate, as I have no idea how the Sharks value Burns right now.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.

Subbanator7667

Subbanator

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 7,348

Likes: 3,350

How do you resign anyone next off season?

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.

swinny

Joined: Mar. 2017

Posts: 4,789

Likes: 2,008

Quoting: Subbanator7667

How do you resign anyone next off season?

Maybe Ghost is in the package??? $4.5 million for 3rd pairing minutes is pricey. Maybe a change of scenery he finds his game.

owentippett liked this.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.

owentippett

Thread Starter

Joined: May 2019

Posts: 426

Likes: 155

Quoting: Subbanator7667

How do you resign anyone next off season?

For starters, MacDonald and Schlemko come off the books for $2.5mil. The big one would be unloading a contract at the expansion draft, assuming Seattle does so. I can see the Flyers not protecting either Voracek or JvR to keep their young guys and clear cap a bit. If so, that's an additional 7-8.25mil that comes off as well, giving Chuck roughly $10mil to resign Hart (who isn't having a good year), Sanheim, Laughton, Patrick and Raffl.

Not saying it'll happen, but could happen if it all played out well.

Subbanator7667 liked this.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.

OutCold13

Hockey Fan13

Joined: Oct. 2019

Posts: 3,919

Likes: 2,489

I don't believe Burns and Alain Vigneault can coexist. Just my opinion.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.

owentippett

Thread Starter

Joined: May 2019

Posts: 426

Likes: 155

Quoting: OutCold13

I don't believe Burns and Alain Vigneault can coexist. Just my opinion.

What makes you say that? Just outta curiousity

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

Posts: 32,709

Likes: 31,449

Ghost for 20% retained Burns 1-on-1. SJ gets significantly younger, PHI gets a better D for now but also much, much more risky player in terms of age coming their way.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:42 a.m.

owentippett

Thread Starter

Joined: May 2019

Posts: 426

Likes: 155

Quoting: justaBoss

Ghost for 20% retained Burns 1-on-1. SJ gets significantly younger, PHI gets a better D for now but also much, much more risky player in terms of age coming their way.

You think SJ takes that? Ghost has played well this year but just his name alone scares teams, so I feel like they wouldn't do it 1 for 1

Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:45 a.m.

#10

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

Posts: 32,709

Likes: 31,449

Quoting: carterhart

You think SJ takes that? Ghost has played well this year but just his name alone scares teams, so I feel like they wouldn't do it 1 for 1

Honestly if they can ship out Burns with gaining something that might be perceived as even slightly positive value, it might be considered a win. We can talk all day about how Burns is a physical anomaly and blah blah blah but the truth is that he's a 36 year old D with bad defensive record and 4 years left on his contract.

Those seldom end in a happy note.

owentippett and jnowariak liked this.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.

#11

OutCold13

Hockey Fan13

Joined: Oct. 2019

Posts: 3,919

Likes: 2,489

Quoting: carterhart

What makes you say that? Just outta curiousity

Burns isn't great at the defensive side of the game.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.

#12

owentippett

Thread Starter

Joined: May 2019

Posts: 426

Likes: 155

Quoting: OutCold13

Burns isn't great at the defensive side of the game.

If he's paired with Provorov I think he'd be okay. Trust me, as a diehard Flyers fan, there are PLENTY of guys who are brutal defensively, Burns would be the least worry out of them imo.

OutCold13 liked this.

Feb. 25, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.

#13

FunMustBeAlways

Joined: Jan. 2020

Posts: 5,219

Likes: 2,868

Sharks definitely accept. But Philly can keep Rubtsov and Sandstrom. We have like no space for extra contracts coming in.

Burns isn't as bad as some people make him out to be but he does have some major mental lapses defensively from time to time. I think the Flyers could utilize him pretty well though. Just need to pair him with someone who can cover for the occasional bad step up/over-aggressiveness.

owentippett liked this.

Page 1 of 1

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM