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Bye Bye Willy

Created by: brokos73
Initial Creation Date: Feb 25, 2021
Published: Feb 25 at 11:15
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Tolvanen, Eeli
  2. Forsberg, Filip
Additional Details:
Nashville retains 1 million of Forsberg's salary per year
NSH
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Petan, Nicolas
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Watson, Austin
Additional Details:
Ottawa retains $500,000 of Watson's salary per year
OTT
  1. Malgin, Denis
  2. 2021 5th round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,256,541$0$2,850,000$243,459
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
NSH
Forsberg, Filip
$6,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
NSH
Tolvanen, Eeli
$894,166
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
OTT
Watson, Austin
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Boyd, Travis
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Woll, Joseph
$800,000
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$725,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
TOR
Galchenyuk, Alex
$1,050,000 ($0)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Sabourin, Scott
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000 ($0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000 ($0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000 ($175,000)
LW, C
RFA - 2

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Feb 25 at 11:19
#1
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ah Auston Watson, it's been a while since the leafs have had an ECHL player on their roster
Feb 25 at 11:19
#2
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I don't see NSH being interested in that deal
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Feb 25 at 11:23
#3
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Why would Nashville ever do that. If you honestly think Nashville would do that, the deal implies Nylander is better than Forsberg, which, if you believe that (I don't) then why would you trade Nylander for him?

But either way that trade is a huge win for the Leafs, no chance.
Feb 25 at 11:24
#4
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Quoting: villenash
I don't see NSH being interested in that deal


neither would toronto, the leafs are looking to add a top 6 winger to help with the playoff push for now and later, not play musical chairs with them
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Feb 25 at 11:29
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
ah Auston Watson, it's been a while since the leafs have had an ECHL player on their roster


Vesey says hi.
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Feb 25 at 11:30
#6
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Quoting: gmgb
Vesey says hi.


Nah, Vesey could be a pretty good AHLer. Watson wouldnt make the marlies 4th line
Feb 25 at 11:38
#7
Ovchinnikov 137
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Quoting: gmgb
Vesey says hi.


Vesey 21 games 2g 2a (played with JT, Willy, Matthews, Marner)
Watson 21 games 3g 4a (played with nobody’s)

Watson would be an upgrade over Jimmy
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Feb 25 at 11:39
#8
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Nah, Vesey could be a pretty good AHLer. Watson wouldnt make the marlies 4th line


Well, we're all entitled to our opinions.

NSH and OTT both decline.
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Feb 25 at 11:39
#9
Go Preds
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Nashville laughs in your face
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Feb 25 at 11:42
#10
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Quoting: gmgb
Well, we're all entitled to our opinions.

NSH and OTT both decline.


good for them, the Leafs would be the ones declining because there's no way they're the ones offering theses deals
Feb 25 at 11:49
#11
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
good for them, the Leafs would be the ones declining because there's no way they're the ones offering theses deals


Cool. See that they don't.
Feb 25 at 12:03
#12
Who adds what?
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Quoting: dzad96
Why would Nashville ever do that. If you honestly think Nashville would do that, the deal implies Nylander is better than Forsberg, which, if you believe that (I don't) then why would you trade Nylander for him?

But either way that trade is a huge win for the Leafs, no chance.


I think the Leafs look at it as a way to add a #1LW, and the Preds are looking to get younger and rebuild, so adding a prospect and a pick helps them. I'm totally confused as to why they'd throw in Tolvanen, though. That definitely sinks it.
Feb 25 at 12:05
#13
Moderators Are Soft
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Quoting: Eli
I think the Leafs look at it as a way to add a #1LW, and the Preds are looking to get younger and rebuild, so adding a prospect and a pick helps them. I'm totally confused as to why they'd throw in Tolvanen, though. That definitely sinks it.


This trade makes no sense for Nashville its a total Loss. the Leafs get a better player and a prospect plus the Preds retain? Like what?
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Feb 25 at 12:08
#14
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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Your bottom 6 lacks grit. Watson could be a fit, but this offer doesn't do it.
Watson has 7 points in 21 games while playing 4th line on the worst team in the league. So he's contributing more offence than Mikheyev, Vesey, and Engvall. Watson also has 57 hits and 22 blocked shots. Mikheyev, Vesey, and Engvall have COMBINED for 46 hits 23 blocked shots.
Ottawa declines.
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Feb 25 at 12:10
#15
Who adds what?
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Quoting: dzad96
This trade makes no sense for Nashville its a total Loss. the Leafs get a better player and a prospect plus the Preds retain? Like what?


Agreed. But take out Tolvanen, and suddenly it makes sense for Nashville. They get a guy who's almost as good, two years younger, with two more years of term on his contract, plus a 2nd and another guy who maybe could play for them now. They still probably keep Forsberg, because he's been one of their best forwards for a while, now, and their fans like him, but if they wanted to shake things up, Nylander and a 2nd isn't a bad starting point.
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Feb 25 at 12:20
#16
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Quoting: gmgb
Cool. See that they don't.


Will do
Feb 25 at 2:36
#17
Jaxon34
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Nah, Vesey could be a pretty good AHLer. Watson wouldnt make the marlies 4th line


As a Leafs fan, please look at Watson has done comparded to some of the lefas players.
He would not be a bad option, and would agian add osme grit and toughness, as Lefas do play better when that is in the lineup.
Feb 25 at 3:49
#18
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Quoting: Leafs09
As a Leafs fan, please look at Watson has done comparded to some of the lefas players.
He would not be a bad option, and would agian add osme grit and toughness, as Lefas do play better when that is in the lineup.


i know exactly what he's done.
Jack all. He's awful. he cant score, he cant defend and his "grit and toughness" is utterly useless because he's clowned up and down the ice. No one plays better when he;s on the ice other than the other team because he stinks and is really easy to play against. He is an utter anchor for any line he is on.
Feb 25 at 7:12
#19
Jaxon34
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
i know exactly what he's done.
Jack all. He's awful. he cant score, he cant defend and his "grit and toughness" is utterly useless because he's clowned up and down the ice. No one plays better when he;s on the ice other than the other team because he stinks and is really easy to play against. He is an utter anchor for any line he is on.


All that is just chirping lol
His stats are better than a lot of TO bottom 3
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Feb 26 at 5:05
#20
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
i know exactly what he's done.
Jack all. He's awful. he cant score, he cant defend and his "grit and toughness" is utterly useless because he's clowned up and down the ice. No one plays better when he;s on the ice other than the other team because he stinks and is really easy to play against. He is an utter anchor for any line he is on.


Yet he has more points (and p/gp) than Mikheyev, Vesey, Petan and Engvall. Why is he putting up more points than FOUR of your bottom SIX??
Watson also has 58 hits. That's 21 MORE than Hymen, who leads your team. And 2 more than Mikheyev, Vesey, Petan and Engvall COMBINED.
That's the kind of "useless" that helps get teams to the second round. Been a long time since the Leafs did that...
Feb 26 at 5:11
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Quoting: TCMonkey
Yet he has more points (and p/gp) than Mikheyev, Vesey, Petan and Engvall. Why is he putting up more points than FOUR of your bottom SIX??
Watson also has 58 hits. That's 21 MORE than Hymen, who leads your team. And 2 more than Mikheyev, Vesey, Petan and Engvall COMBINED.
That's the kind of "useless" that helps get teams to the second round. Been a long time since the Leafs did that...


Wow, he has more points than some guys who have played 10 or more less games than him, amazing.
Lol hits. That just means he never has the puck.
 
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