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No point it waiting another decade with average team

Created by: Hale86
Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 25, 2021
Published: Feb. 25, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Not any more competitive then the drivel on the ice now and pivoting to a future without the current disappointing core. Get rid of Backlund (mr every second game) and the dynamic duo who dissappears in big games (Mony & Gaudreau) and offer Bennett bigger chance then he has ever had. Time to reset identity...again. Adding Hall and some tough cap moves makes team similar compete but way better long term outlook.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,350,000
3$3,250,000
1$750,000
2$4,250,000
2$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
7$8,250,000
1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 1st round pick (PHI)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
2.
CGY
  1. Larkin, Dylan
DET
  1. Backlund, Mikael
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Monahan, Sean
4.
CGY
VGK
  1. Kylington, Oliver [RFA Rights]
  2. Lerby, Carl-Johan [RFA Rights]
  3. Lucic, Milan
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
with incentives - sending Lucic to Seattle (using vegas for this case)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$70,406,111$0$0$11,093,889
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Hall, Taylor
$8,250,000$8,250,000
LW
UFA - 4
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Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
UFA - 2
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Bennett, Sam
$4,250,000$4,250,000
C
UFA - 4
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Dubé, Dillon
$2,350,000$2,350,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 3
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Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Patrick, Nolan
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Johansson, Marcus
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptPelletier, Jakob
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 3
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Waivers ExemptZary, Connor
$894,167$894,167
LW, C
RFA - 4
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Gawdin, Glenn
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Giordano, Mark
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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Hanifin, Noah
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
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Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptKinnvall, Johannes
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Domingue, Louis
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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Välimäki, Juuso
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Froese, Byron
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1

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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:05 p.m.
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Gmonwy
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Detroit, and Minnesota decline. And that would not be fair if lucic waives and we send him to Seattle
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:05 p.m.
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Detroit, and Minnesota decline. And that would not be fair if lucic waives and we send him to Seattle


Also Zary won't be ready
Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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Detroit isn’t doing that and I don’t think Seattle will either
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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Minnesota was reportedly not interested in Monahan last summer. Can't imagine it changing after 7 months.
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:08 p.m.
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Also Zary won't be ready


Tanev has been decent. One of our best dmen. We should not buy him out
Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.
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laugh laugh We're not trading our 24 year old Captain for a soon to be 32 year old Mikael Backlund try adding Calgary's 2021 1st round pick along with Noah Hanifin and we still decline.
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.
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TRADE MONAHAN AND GAUDREAU AND BUILD AROUND TKACHUK, LINDHOLM AND DUBE
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:15 p.m.
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Yea rumor had it Calgary asked about dumba for Monahan straight up and the wild had no interest in that deal.
Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:27 p.m.
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laugh laugh This dude actually thinks that Gaudreau is worth Nolan Patrick+ Philly's 2021 1st round pick along with Philly's 2021 2nd round pick. And yet Dylan Larkin is only worth a soon to be 32 year old Mikael Backlund along with Calgary's 2021 2nd round pick. Obviously know's nothing of players values. Like i said add both Hanifin and Flames 2021 1st round pick and we still decline.
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.
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I hope the Larkin trade is a joke. If not please explain why Wings even make this trade.
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Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:39 p.m.
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The problem is that the Flames ownership is fine with mediocrity. All they ask is the team gets into the playoffs.
Feb. 25, 2021 at 9:49 p.m.
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Detroit counters with gagner and a 2nd for Monahan. It's pretty fair right? What a joke that wings trade is. It might be the worst Dylan Larkin trade in the history of this site and man are there some bad ones. Disgusting
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:10 p.m.
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No from Minnesota. Guerin doesn't want Sean Monahan. You aren't getting Dumba much less thinking wild would add picks.

Anyway Dumba for Monahan is a no from Wilde's side
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Lightman13
Yea rumor had it Calgary asked about dumba for Monahan straight up and the wild had no interest in that deal.


Quoting: BrodinCheerD
No from Minnesota. Guerin doesn't want Sean Monahan. You aren't getting Dumba much less thinking wild would add picks.

Anyway Dumba for Monahan is a no from Wilde's side


Yes, cause why would any team want to trade from their biggest strength to fill their biggest hole
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.
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Why the f*ck is Tanev bought out
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:50 p.m.
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Yes, cause why would any team want to trade from their biggest strength to fill their biggest hole


Maybe because Monahan isn't as good as he's generally perceived.

Something tells me, as a Flames fan, that deep down, you probably know that to be true.
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.
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Maybe because Monahan isn't as good as he's generally perceived.

Something tells me, as a Flames fan, that deep down, you probably know that to be true.


It’s not even that deep down, it’s on the surface. Monahan goes as Gaudreau goes a lot of the time. However, he is a good player and this works for Minnesota. They are trading from an excess to fill a position of dire need
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.
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It’s not even that deep down, it’s on the surface. Monahan goes as Gaudreau goes a lot of the time. However, he is a good player and this works for Minnesota. They are trading from an excess to fill a position of dire need


Yeah, and we're telling you, Guerin wasn't interested. Pick your fight with him if it's an issue.
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:54 p.m.
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Yeah, and we're telling you, Guerin wasn't interested. Pick your fight with him if it's an issue.


I highly doubt that. Can you link a source?
Feb. 25, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.
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I highly doubt that. Can you link a source?


Article from Russo back in October:

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Now isn’t the most opportune time to trade Dumba. We’re in the middle of a pandemic, he’s coming off a down year. So, we’ll see. Vancouver never seemed really interested. I don’t get the sense the Wild have interest in Calgary’s Sean Monahan.


There was also a tweet back in the second half of last year where someone straight up asked him if Guerin was trying to get Monahan and he pretty much straight up said "no" with little to no elaboration. But I'm not going to go back and try to find everything Russo has replied to.

He also reported the same thing in a late September article.
Feb. 25, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.
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Article from Russo back in October:

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Now isn’t the most opportune time to trade Dumba. We’re in the middle of a pandemic, he’s coming off a down year. So, we’ll see. Vancouver never seemed really interested. I don’t get the sense the Wild have interest in Calgary’s Sean Monahan.


There was also a tweet back in the second half of last year where someone straight up asked him if Guerin was trying to get Monahan and he pretty much straight up said "no" with little to no elaboration. But I'm not going to go back and try to find everything Russo has replied to.


Ok... puzzling to me
Feb. 26, 2021 at 12:17 a.m.
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Yes, cause why would any team want to trade from their biggest strength to fill their biggest hole


Do some research instead of getting mad. It's a fact wild GM refused to trade Dumba for Sean Monahan this summer. No reason why/ for you to get offended, or mad.

Wild G didn't do Dumba straight up for Monahan. He sure as heck isn't adding on more. Anyway, this isn't realistic anyway
Feb. 26, 2021 at 12:30 a.m.
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Quoting: BrodinCheerD
Do some research instead of getting mad. It's a fact wild GM refused to trade Dumba for Sean Monahan this summer. No reason why/ for you to get offended, or mad.

Wild G didn't do Dumba straight up for Monahan. He sure as heck isn't adding on more. Anyway, this isn't realistic anyway


I’m not mad. Just think it is funny and quite stupid to decline from a MIN perspective
Feb. 26, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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I’m not mad. Just think it is funny and quite stupid to decline from a MIN perspective


Well an NHL General Manager knows more than UPI. Frankly no offense, but your opinion doesn't matter to General Manager Bill Guerin.

You are acting like you know more than 20 year NHL Player , & General Manager in Bill Guerin. Sorry but you are wrong on this.
Feb. 26, 2021 at 1:07 a.m.
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Quoting: BrodinCheerD
Well an NHL General Manager knows more than UPI. Frankly no offense, but your opinion doesn't matter to General Manager Bill Guerin.

You are acting like you know more than 20 year NHL Player , & General Manager in Bill Guerin. Sorry but you are wrong on this.


Ok, I know that he knows more about his team than I do. Not going to pretend to know more than the GM, but the math is simple and people do make mistakes. You have Calen Addison, Matt Dumba and Jared Spurgeon on the RHD, you have Joel Eriksson Ek, Victor Rask, Nick Bonino and Ryan Hartman down the middle.
Spurgeon is a 1, Dumba is a top 4 and Addison will be. Ek has a career high of 29 points, Rask had a 25 point pace last year, Bonino is a 40 point guy and Hartman has a career high of 31 points from 4 years ago

Dumba and Monahan both have almost the exact same contract just to make the fit even better. I don’t see the problem and find it hard to believe and almost idiotic that Guerin wouldn’t do it. I doubt that those claims are true by Russo. I just can’t wrap my head around any reason Minnesota wouldn’t do it. Only possible reasons I can muster are that he doesn’t trust Monahan away from Gaudreau or that he doesn’t like Monahans character
 
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