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A Slimy Solution for Skinner

Created by: Canadianape
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 26, 2021
Published: Feb. 26, 2021
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With treliving likely out the door if the flames contiinue his abysmal season maybe he makes one last ditch long shot to acquire a RW that could play in the top 6. ITs a huge gamble that skinner just doenst fit in in buffalo and is not simply a contract bust but if it pays off Treliving looks like a hero.

Buffalo gets out of a very undesirable contract. Calgary hopes Skinner can become the player he used to be playing with gaudreau and monahan while getting rid of some shorter term cap dumps

I know its unrealistic but would be fun to see
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  2. Skinner, Jeff ($1,000,000 retained)
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Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:26 p.m.
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Actually a simple solution for Skinner would be to play him in the offensive zone.
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Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:27 p.m.
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Actually a simple solution for Skinner would be to play him in the offensive zone.


exactly. thats why I propose the flames or some other team pick him up and give him a chance to be great again with some talented line mates. The relationship has obviously soured in Buffalo
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:28 p.m.
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Jeff Skinner is what he is - an offensive finisher, reliant on others to create opportunities for him.

Skinner has always been that player, and will always be that player.

In 59 games last season, plus 14 games this season, Skinner has just 14 goals. That comes after a 40-goal season that earned him an eight-year contract worth $9 million annually.

It is too simplistic and shortsighted to just look at the goal totals and declare that Skinner is not performing. I would argue that Skinner is overachieving, given the impossible situation Ralph Krueger has put him in.

In the 2019-20 season, Skinner's most common linemates were not an impressive group of offensive creators:

1.) Marcus Johansson (336:03)
2.) Conor Sheary (211:46)
3.) Evan Rodrigues (166:16)
4.) Vladimir Sobotka (160:54)

Despite playing almost entirely with a group of players that averages 36 points per-82 games combined in their careers, Skinner somehow managed to lead the Buffalo Sabres in goals per-60 minutes of ice-time at 5-on-5.

Yes, you read that right.

In the 2019-20 season at 5-on-5, Skinner had the most goals on the Sabres per-60 minutes of ice-time. More than Jack Eichel, Sam Reinhart, and Victor Olofsson.

Skinner produced with subpar help, without getting a proper amount of ice-time.

In 2019-20, Skinner averaged just 13:28 of 5-on-5 ice time per game. His lowest amount in five years.

Fast forward to the 2020-21 season, and Krueger, once again, has put Skinner in an impossible position. From the start of the season, Skinner has skated with Curtis Lazar and Riley Sheahan. Two of the worst offensive players on the team.

The difference this season is Skinner has not scored at all.

However, now is not the time to panic.

Skinner is not experiencing the career decline that Kyle Okposo has gone through, for example.

In fact, Skinner's rate of high-danger scoring chances per-60 minutes this season is actually higher than each of his first two years with the Sabres. This includes his 40-goal season back in the 2018-19 campaign.

Okposo, for comparison, is averaging a career-low 2.01 high-danger scoring chances per-60 minutes. It's a sign that goals are not going to come.

Skinner, meanwhile, is creating nearly triple the scoring chances that Okposo is, with 5.74 per-60 minutes.

Simply put, Skinner is unlucky.

If Krueger was trying to be predictive instead of reactionary, he would be playing Skinner big minutes at the top of the lineup and not sticking him in the press box.

Let's also end this narrative that Skinner doesn't help the Sabres if he's not scoring.

Skinner ranks first on the Sabres per-60 minutes in penalties drawn, takeaways, rebounds created, and he has the third-most blocked shots among forwards.

The shot block total is definitely a fluke, if looking at the rest of Skinner's career, but the other categories are constants in his game.

Getting the most out of Skinner is critical for whoever the Sabres head coach is in the future. He is under contract through 2027 at $9 million per-year. Like it or not, Skinner is here and isn't going anywhere.

It is vital for the head coach to find a way to make it work. Krueger should be doing everything in his power to get Skinner scoring.

So far, Krueger's way of getting the most out of Skinner is to keep him far away from the Sabres' other top offensive players, and then punish him when he doesn't score with a guy who was signed to a PTO (professional tryout) a month ago.

The solution is sitting there right in front of Krueger. It's the only thing he hasn't tried with Skinner since he walked through the door as the head coach in Buffalo - Giving Skinner extended playing time with, at least, one of the top forwards at driving offensive play. That's Eichel, Reinhart and/or Taylor Hall. - https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/jeff-skinner-is-not-underperforming-he-is-underutilized
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Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
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exactly. thats why I propose the flames or some other team pick him up and give him a chance to be great again with some talented line mates. The relationship has obviously soured in Buffalo


You're wrong but go off king
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.
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You're wrong but go off king


Whats wrong about what i said
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:34 p.m.
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Whats wrong about what i said


When asked this morning if he wanted to be on another team he responded
"No. I love being a Sabre. I love the city of Buffalo. I wouldn’t have chosen to stay here if that wasn’t the case. That answer is simple: no."
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Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.
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@Shibbal18 I agree with everything you said. However there is obviously something else afoot in Buffalo that one of there best and highest paid guys spends most of his time on the fourth line. I dont think buffalo needs to trade skinner because he hasn't been performing to their standards. i think they need to trade him be cause there is another non hockey related issue that has resulted in skinner becoming a 4th liner

1. Coach doesnt like him? (could fire the coach)
2. top players dont like him? (could trade skinner) or (trade top players)
3. combination of both? (skinner may be the problem here that may not be out of the question)
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:40 p.m.
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When asked this morning if he wanted to be on another team he responded
"No. I love being a Sabre. I love the city of Buffalo. I wouldn’t have chosen to stay here if that wasn’t the case. That answer is simple: no."


a yes we have found the fan that believes everything that a player says to the media. Lots of flames fans who also believe that Johnny Gaudreau would rather stay in Calgary then play for his home town Flyers or devils because "he said so".

To be clear I don't necessarily think skinner wants out of buffalo but it is clear that something is not working within that team. 9 million dollar guys dont typically play on the fourth line and 65 point guys dont turn into 25 point guys for no reason
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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@Shibbal18 I agree with everything you said. However there is obviously something else afoot in Buffalo that one of there best and highest paid guys spends most of his time on the fourth line. I dont think buffalo needs to trade skinner because he hasn't been performing to their standards. i think they need to trade him be cause there is another non hockey related issue that has resulted in skinner becoming a 4th liner

1. Coach doesnt like him? (could fire the coach)
2. top players dont like him? (could trade skinner) or (trade top players)
3. combination of both? (skinner may be the problem here that may not be out of the question)


1 coach doesnt like him, not sure why but since he was hired he has under utilized Skinner. If he doesnt see him as a part of this team he needs to make him sellable, you cant just bury him and hope someone takes a flyer on him. Maybe they think he'll waive his NMC for Seattle. I blame both Skinner and Krueger, they cant just hope something happens though
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:48 p.m.
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1 coach doesnt like him, not sure why but since he was hired he has under utilized Skinner. If he doesnt see him as a part of this team he needs to make him sellable, you cant just bury him and hope someone takes a flyer on him. Maybe they think he'll waive his NMC for Seattle. I blame both Skinner and Krueger, they cant just hope something happens though


your definitely right he is making any sort of trade for skinner almost impossible which is why the trade i proposed above is pretty one sided for the flames assuming Skinner can be the player he used to be.
unfortunately it sure looks like buffalo is headed for another rebuild with eichel showing his frustration and willingness to request a trade it may not be long before skinner is the only option for Kruger to go to. if eichel leaves i imagine the other core players will likely follow shortly
Feb. 26, 2021 at 3:51 p.m.
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your definitely right he is making any sort of trade for skinner almost impossible which is why the trade i proposed above is pretty one sided for the flames assuming Skinner can be the player he used to be.
unfortunately it sure looks like buffalo is headed for another rebuild with eichel showing his frustration and willingness to request a trade it may not be long before skinner is the only option for Kruger to go to. if eichel leaves i imagine the other core players will likely follow shortly


Eichel hasnt been frustrated, Eichels been hurt. He started the year off behind on his conditioning and 2 games ago it looked like he sprained his ankle so he is now day to day
Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.
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If you’re “dumping” salary back,
then i wouldn’t wanna give up a 1st
Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:07 p.m.
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your definitely right he is making any sort of trade for skinner almost impossible which is why the trade i proposed above is pretty one sided for the flames assuming Skinner can be the player he used to be.
unfortunately it sure looks like buffalo is headed for another rebuild with eichel showing his frustration and willingness to request a trade it may not be long before skinner is the only option for Kruger to go to. if eichel leaves i imagine the other core players will likely follow shortly


Eichel has NOT requested a trade
And NO ONE is reporting that he has
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Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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If you’re “dumping” salary back,
then i wouldn’t wanna give up a 1st


2 years of lucic and half a season of ryan doesnt account for 6.5 years at 9million for skinner who right now has the worst contract in the nhl. unfortunately we are dumping cap back but that is the only way a trade works and buffalo is off the hook for that money after 2 seasons the flames hold it for another 4 years after that
Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.
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Eichel has NOT requested a trade
And NO ONE is reporting that he has


it has been reported he discussed asking for a trade with the GM in the offseason and tons of people are reporting it that way. dont be naive.

He is also clearly unhappy there right now
Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:41 p.m.
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2 years of lucic and half a season of ryan doesnt account for 6.5 years at 9million for skinner who right now has the worst contract in the nhl. unfortunately we are dumping cap back but that is the only way a trade works and buffalo is off the hook for that money after 2 seasons the flames hold it for another 4 years after that


I’m not the one trying to trade Skinner....
YOU are trying to trade FOR HIM

BIG DIFFERENCE

I’m more than happy to keep him & just get a new coach that doesn’t use him in a bottom6 defensive role
He’s still a good player
Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.
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it has been reported he discussed asking for a trade with the GM in the offseason and tons of people are reporting it that way. dont be naive.

He is also clearly unhappy there right now


No, it hasn’t been reported bc that hasn’t been discussed
Eichel said he was unhappy the team was losing & wanted to win
The rest of that crap was all just random OPINIONS that (at some point in the future) Eichel MIGHT ask out- IF- we keep losing
Feb. 26, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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2 years of lucic and half a season of ryan doesnt account for 6.5 years at 9million for skinner who right now has the worst contract in the nhl. unfortunately we are dumping cap back but that is the only way a trade works and buffalo is off the hook for that money after 2 seasons the flames hold it for another 4 years after that


Price, Bobrovsky, Vlasic, Okposo, Johansen - Their are plenty of worse contracts out there, I dont think I would even say top 10 worst contract
Feb. 26, 2021 at 5:27 p.m.
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Uhh brutal trade for buffalo. I would rather keep skinner and play him correctly that give up all of that.
Feb. 26, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.
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No, it hasn’t been reported bc that hasn’t been discussed
Eichel said he was unhappy the team was losing & wanted to win
The rest of that crap was all just random OPINIONS that (at some point in the future) Eichel MIGHT ask out- IF- we keep losing


you are wrong
Feb. 26, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.
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you are wrong


No, I’m not

This deal for Skinner is garbage
And you’re not getting Eichel for the garbage returns i keep seeing (from your fellow Flames fans) either

We’ll be happy to take Tkachuk off your hands though
Feb. 26, 2021 at 9:20 p.m.
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No, I’m not

This deal for Skinner is garbage
And you’re not getting Eichel for the garbage returns i keep seeing (from your fellow Flames fans) either

We’ll be happy to take Tkachuk off your hands though


one for one tkachuk for eichel you got it.

Take your fan goggles off bud at least I can admit when my team sucks and my players want out.

delusional sabres fan. you probably weren't born yet the last time the sabres won a playoff series
Feb. 26, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.
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one for one tkachuk for eichel you got it.

Take your fan goggles off bud at least I can admit when my team sucks and my players want out.

delusional sabres fan. you probably weren't born yet the last time the sabres won a playoff series


Ok boomer
Feb. 27, 2021 at 11:31 p.m.
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Ok boomer


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