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No Price Too High

Created by: CoopsTroops
Initial Creation Date: Feb 26, 2021
Published: Feb 26 at 3:55
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
Give me back Nolan!

Koshechkin for Calder!

Remember, 'Tis but a joke. Maybe.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Koshechkin, Vasili1$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Barré-Boulet, Alex2$887,500
Volkov, Alexander2$787,500
Foote, Cal2$950,000
Colton, Ross1$750,000
Trades
TBL
    WPG
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. Thompson, Jack [Reserve List]
    3. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
    4. 2021 3rd round pick (TBL)
    Additional Details:
    Seattle
    TBL
    1. 2022 3rd round pick (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Killorn, Alex
    2. 2022 6th round pick (TBL)
    TBL
    1. Foote, Nolan
    NJD
    1. Finley, Jack
    2. 2022 1st round pick (TBL)
    3. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
    Buyouts
    • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    NSH
    NJD
    2022
    TBL
    ARI
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    2023
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$80,735,833$0$0$764,167
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TBL
    Palat, Ondrej
    $5,300,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Point, Brayden
    $6,750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    TBL
    Kucherov, Nikita
    $9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    TBL
    Stamkos, Steven
    $8,500,000
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    TBL
    Cirelli, Anthony
    $4,800,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Barré-Boulet, Alex
    $887,500
    C
    RFA
    NJD
    Foote, Nolan
    $894,167
    LW
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Gourde, Yanni
    $5,166,666
    C, LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Joseph, Mathieu
    $737,500
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    TBL
    Maroon, Patrick
    $900,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Stephens, Mitchell
    $737,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    TBL
    Volkov, Alexander
    $787,500
    LW, RW
    RFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TBL
    Hedman, Victor
    $7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Rutta, Jan
    $1,300,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Vasilevskiy, Andrei
    $9,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TBL
    McDonagh, Ryan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    TBL
    Cernak, Erik
    $2,950,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Koshechkin, Vasili
    $900,000
    G
    RFA
    TBL
    Sergachev, Mikhail
    $4,800,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Foote, Cal
    $950,000
    RD
    RFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TBL
    Colton, Ross
    $750,000
    C
    RFA

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    Feb 26 at 3:56
    #1
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    imagine the devils would accept
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    Feb 26 at 3:56
    #2
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    Screw Seattle sharks will offer Gambrell or Simek for that trade!
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    Feb 26 at 4:00
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    Johnson (1M retained) for Gaudette
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    Feb 26 at 4:03
    #4
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    Quoting: Vermathex
    imagine the devils would accept


    3 1sts and Finley for Coleman is not a bad deal. That won't happen, but I'm never going to forgive them for forcing our hand to get Nolan in the Coleman trade.

    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Screw Seattle sharks will offer Gambrell or Simek for that trade!


    It'll be interesting to see what happens with Johnson after the season. Seattle makes sense as a hometown team, but neither player nor team have expressed interest yet, and there was said to be 3 teams interested in him before the salary cap became flat. I'm just trying to use what we paid Vegas to take Jason Garrison as a starting point.
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    Feb 26 at 4:05
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    3 1sts and Finley for Coleman is not a bad deal. That won't happen, but I'm never going to forgive them for forcing our hand to get Nolan in the Coleman trade.



    It'll be interesting to see what happens with Johnson after the season. Seattle makes sense as a hometown team, but neither player nor team have expressed interest yet, and there was said to be 3 teams interested in him before the salary cap became flat. I'm just trying to use what we paid Vegas to take Jason Garrison as a starting point.


    you won a cup which means it was worth it
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    Feb 26 at 4:10
    #6
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    Quoting: Canucks33
    Johnson (1M retained) for Gaudette


    No sizeable salary can come back in the Johnson trade since I'd assume moving Killorn AND Palat, instead of just one of them, is not an option GMJBB would consider. The move will probably be just pay and arm and leg to have him taken cleanly off our hands.
    Feb 26 at 4:11
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    Quoting: Vermathex
    you won a cup which means it was worth it


    Absolutely, and he'll hopefully be part of another deep cup run this season, but it would have been cool to see Nolan and Cal play together.
    Feb 26 at 4:19
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    No sizeable salary can come back in the Johnson trade since I'd assume moving Killorn AND Palat, instead of just one of them, is not an option GMJBB would consider. The move will probably be just pay and arm and leg to have him taken cleanly off our hands.


    Gaudette won't be too expensive given the year he's having, definitely under 2M for 2 years.
    Feb 26 at 4:21
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    Y'all love Foote that much?
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    Feb 26 at 4:23
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    Quoting: Canucks33
    Gaudette won't be too expensive given the year he's having, definitely under 2M for 2 years.


    Even if he comes in cheap, I'm not sure Tampa can afford to retain. After getting Volkov, Barre-Boulet, Foote, a bottom 6 forward instead of N. Foote, and a budget goalie on team friendly terms, we can only barely make a 21 player roster work with a little extra in case of injury issues.
    Feb 26 at 4:24
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Y'all love Foote that much?


    I do.
    Feb 26 at 4:27
    #12
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    I do.


    Is Sergachev, Cernak, Raddysh, or Cal Foote available for a trade in the offseason if Nolan Foote++ is going to Tampa Bay?
    Feb 26 at 4:30
    #13
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    Even if he comes in cheap, I'm not sure Tampa can afford to retain. After getting Volkov, Barre-Boulet, Foote, a bottom 6 forward instead of N. Foote, and a budget goalie on team friendly terms, we can only barely make a 21 player roster work with a little extra in case of injury issues.


    At that point you'll have to move another player, no other choice. Killorn or Palat or whoever would also have to move.
    Feb 26 at 4:37
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Is Sergachev, Cernak, Raddysh, or Cal Foote available for a trade in the offseason if Nolan Foote++ is going to Tampa Bay?


    Nolan Foote isn't coming back to Tampa on his ELC, just made an ACGM for next year (Killorn and Johnson moved) and threw in an overpay for Nolan. I'd make Raddysh available at the right price though.
    Feb 26 at 4:38
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    Quoting: Canucks33
    At that point you'll have to move another player, no other choice. Killorn or Palat or whoever would also have to move.


    Yep, which is why no salary will be retained or brought back in a Johnson trade. Just a lot of assets going 1-way.
    Feb 26 at 4:40
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    Devils accept
    Feb 26 at 4:42
    #17
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    Nolan Foote isn't coming back to Tampa on his ELC, just made an ACGM for next year (Killorn and Johnson moved) and threw in an overpay for Nolan. I'd make Raddysh available at the right price though.


    Ok because I feel like Sergachev would be a great fit in NJ. Doubt Tampa would trade him.
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    Feb 26 at 4:52
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    Quoting: Devil1122
    Ok because I feel like Sergachev would be a great fit in NJ. Doubt Tampa would trade him.


    If we "had" to trade him this past off-season, I thought NJ made sense, but when it comes down to Sergy, Cirelli, and Cernak, Sergy is Tampa's top priority going forward.
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    Feb 26 at 4:53
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    If we "had" to trade him this past off-season, I thought NJ made sense, but when it comes down to Sergy, Cirelli, and Cernak, Sergy is Tampa's top priority going forward.


    Devils could have made a big move for Sergachev and Johnson/Killorn/Gourde last offseason to help Tampa but its too late now
    Feb 26 at 4:57
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    Yep, which is why no salary will be retained or brought back in a Johnson trade. Just a lot of assets going 1-way.


    If you move one of Killorn or McDnough (to Seattle or wherever), then you could afford the 1M retention couldn't you? Obviously no retention would be better and if you want to pay more to get that then go for it, but the Canucks probably wouldn't take him at his full cap hit.
    Feb 26 at 5:18
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    Quoting: Canucks33
    If you move one of Killorn or McDnough (to Seattle or wherever), then you could afford the 1M retention couldn't you? Obviously no retention would be better and if you want to pay more to get that then go for it, but the Canucks probably wouldn't take him at his full cap hit.


    If McDonagh goes to Seattle we have cap to play with, but I just don't see Johnson to Vancouver as a fit to begin with.
    Feb 26 at 5:28
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    If McDonagh goes to Seattle we have cap to play with, but I just don't see Johnson to Vancouver as a fit to begin with.


    I think he could be a good addition in terms of what he brings, but not at his current cap hit, hence the retention. Canucks probably wouldn't be interested in him at his full cap hit.
    Feb 26 at 7:07
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    I was never too disappointed about losing Nolan. Yea he’s got great offensive upside, but I don’t think he was a great scheme fit due to his skating issues. Maybe he has worked them out by know, I’ve really stopped following him after he got traded. But as far as that trade goes, I’d rather have Finley and the picks. I think Finley will surprise a lot of people and of course those draft picks are quite valuable.
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    Feb 26 at 7:42
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    Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
    I was never too disappointed about losing Nolan. Yea he’s got great offensive upside, but I don’t think he was a great scheme fit due to his skating issues. Maybe he has worked them out by know, I’ve really stopped following him after he got traded. But as far as that trade goes, I’d rather have Finley and the picks. I think Finley will surprise a lot of people and of course those draft picks are quite valuable.


    From what I have read, his skating is now at a point where it would no longer be a hindrance to him making it in the NHL. I like Finley too, but in a hypothetical trade I'd imagine NJ would want another big body forward back.
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