LA isn't trading Turcotte, Tyler Johnson isn't waiving for LA and Sergachev isn't going anywhere either.

If we are taking Johnson too, then we probably don't have to add the 1st.

Like I said, I wouldn't do it if it costed more than Turcotte and Clague, but this is interesting.

No chance Tampa Bay pays to Dump Palat if Seattle takes Palat that's it. Pay to take Johnson not Palat.
Forget Sergachev going anywhere

"good for the Lightning"

Terrible*

Sergachev is the present and future of Tampa's blue line. Any deal involving him leaving Tampa is bad for the Lightning.

We're trading Turcotte if it means getting Sergachev. And it's probably the only way anyone does get Sergachev.

Read the bio moron, he explains the unlikelihood of it happening above.

However, there's no question this is a complete overpay from LA.

Yeah, I doubt that Sergachev goes anywhere, but it's the trade du jour, so I'm in.

If Seattle doesn't take Palat (or Gourde or Johnson), your 2021-2022 cap situation goes from "abysmal" to "this year."

Right now your 2021-2022 roster is $6.78 million over the cap with only 17 guys signed, and without Coleman or Goodrow. The idea that "any deal involving Sergachev leaving Tampa is bad for the Lightning" ignores reality.

Moron, the quote is directly from the bio. Specifically said:
"We both agree that it would be great for the Kings, good for the Lightning"

Whether you think it's realistic or not, it's worded as you think it's good for the Lightning. Take an English lesson maybe?

Why does Goodrow or Coleman have to be signed? There's no way we are going to keep them after the season to begin with. Also, the only thing ignoring reality with Sergachev were the people signing him to offer sheets left and right on here this fall and believing it would happen.

Right after that it says "unlikely to happen in real life" so maybe you should look into reading classes or buy some glasses.

When you have to trade someone you don't want to trade in order to fit 10+ in cap next year, you might wonder what it would look like with 900k Clague on your 3rd pair and 2-3 years of Turcotte on an ELC.

Acting like this makes the Lightning worse when you have guys like Hedman and McDonagh is kind of funny. Clague plays a similar game to Sergachev, of course he's not near as good, but how many points does a 3LD actually need to put up when you have Hedman and McDonagh.

I don't believe OldNYIFan meant to trigger you by posting this. However, I happen to be enjoying it

Well, I was under the impression that Coleman and Goodrow were worth more to you than the bottom-6 guys who would replace them.

I really am surprised at your use of the word "terrible" to describe this trade from the Lightning's PoV. Right now you have a more than $10 million cap problem. With this trade (plus the Seattle selection), that problem is solved permanently and you get a prospect who is projected to be your #2 center in a couple of years, plus a 2021 first-round draft pick that's likely to be better than the one you have now, plus various other players including Blake Coleman and two NHLers. If you want to consider that an inadequate return for Sergachev, fine, but to consider this trade "terrible" for Tampa is to ignore the fact that you'd be unlikely to have him now but for the unfortunate injury to Nikita Kucherov.

I give credit where due. You have one hard head. Enjoy your day.

Goodrow and Coleman are going to be paid far more than what we can afford, with or without Sergachev on the roster. There's no price in prospects or draft capital that won't be paid to open up the cap space to be compliant with Kucherov back next year.

As for Sergachev, you grossly undervalue him. Already producing at a higher 5v5 pace than Hedman and defense that is on the high end of 22 year olds in the NHL. He is the future of the defense and team, and to think we would be content with trading him because we still have McDonagh as a #2 is absurd. We'll cross the McDonagh bridge with a buyout, likely, down the line, but trading Sergachev might as well be JBB handing in his resignation papers to the owner.

You as well. Try not to let mine and OldNYIFans trade ideas trigger you, you'll go bald and we don't want that.

Oh my god

NYI is fine. I might buy you a Rosetta Stone English package for valentines day next year though

I'd appreciate that, I always wanted to learn Russian.

Seattle is going to be persuaded to take Johnson and if he's playing well it makes a lot of sense for them.i think Gonclaves a 3&5 does it. No chance they pay to Dump Palat a guy who over the last 3 season's has over 70%of his points 5x5 with 1 year on the contract and certainly not a 1 to do so if I'm miraculously wrong

I don't undervalue Sergachev at all. That's why I'm paying a 2019 first-round draft pick that was 5th overall and seems to be on a path to fulfilling that promise, another first-round draft pick, and an NHL-level LD that can at least fill the hole left on that side for Sergachev.

I think that there's a little "target attraction" at work here. You seem to be focused narrowly on the idea of trading Sergachev away without even looking at the "big picture" that might justify it, even if only on the surface. I confess to the same myopia when someone suggests trading Anze Kopitar -- I would have a hard time agreeing to exchange him for Leon Draisaitl straight up. And don't get me started on John Gibson trades I see every week.

Good luck with that. For your sake, I hope that happens. (But why am I sympathizing with the current Stanley Cup holders for someone to solve their problems?)

Why not offer Byfield?
As an off-season deal, of course.
If Tampa Bay really needs cap and/or center. Many seem to like him over Turcotte (not saying they're right).

You're getting too complicated with this. Sergachev was the first one signed out of last seasons RFAs for a reason. He's the #1 priority along with Point moving forward for Tampa. He's untouchable. If you want to make a case for trading Cirelli or maybe Cernak, go for it, but that's still worst case scenario.

Because Kings aren't paying a 2OA pick for a guy that has gotten over 40 points once regardless of how many people overvalue Sergachev.

Untouchable lol. As long as Hedman is there, Sergachev is 'touchable'