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Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.
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I don't think there's any incentive for Minneosta to do that considering both of those players have produced more than Skinner.
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Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:16 p.m.
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Minnesota is giving up the two best players in the deal by far, no chance.
Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.
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I don't think there's any incentive for Minneosta to do that considering both of those players have produced more than Skinner.


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Minnesota is giving up the two best players in the deal by far, no chance.


Its easy to produce when youre not stapled to the bench.
Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:20 p.m.
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What else is Buffalo adding? Like Cozens? Cozens might get it done.

Before you bother replying, just understand that if you're not adding Cozens, there is no deal to be made, thus no point in replying.
Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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Skinner deals don't work that way
Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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Or better hockey players. They have enough “grit” aka bad hockey players.
Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:42 p.m.
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BUF is stuck with Skinner. That contact is just too huge and too long for anyone to take. There really aren't even other awful contracts you could trade it for 1-for-1.
Feb. 28, 2021 at 7:48 p.m.
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Or better hockey players. They have enough “grit” aka bad hockey players.


They have 0 grit, and pretending grit players are bad is why theyre in the situation theyre in now. The team has no heart and doesnt care, theyre all there to collect a paycheck and leave
Feb. 28, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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Vegas doesn’t want Tage Thompson in that deal. If they trade Reaves, it would be for cap relief of more then the 300k difference between them.

They would want just a pick, or a player that is waiver exempt.
Feb. 28, 2021 at 11:03 p.m.
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Haha get real. Wild aren't taking on Skinner contract. Wild sure as heck aren't trading their #1D, & Foligno isn't going anywhere.

Very funny. Buffalo would have to pay a whole lot to any team, & they still say no
Feb. 28, 2021 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Its easy to produce when youre not stapled to the bench.


Minnesota isn't doing this. It's not in the atmosphere of reality. Minnesota isn't trading their #1d, much less foligno who was just resigned to 3 years deal.

In what world do you even think this is realistic?

Buffalo would have to pay a bad teams like four 1st to take him on

Suter will never waive either
Feb. 28, 2021 at 11:13 p.m.
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Minnesota isn't doing this. It's not in the atmosphere of reality. Minnesota isn't trading their #1d, much less foligno who was just resigned to 3 years deal.

In what world do you even think this is realistic?

Buffalo would have to pay a bad teams like four 1st to take him on

Suter will never waive either



Jeff Skinner is what he is - an offensive finisher, reliant on others to create opportunities for him.

Skinner has always been that player, and will always be that player.

In 59 games last season, plus 14 games this season, Skinner has just 14 goals. That comes after a 40-goal season that earned him an eight-year contract worth $9 million annually.

It is too simplistic and shortsighted to just look at the goal totals and declare that Skinner is not performing. I would argue that Skinner is overachieving, given the impossible situation Ralph Krueger has put him in.

In the 2019-20 season, Skinner's most common linemates were not an impressive group of offensive creators:

1.) Marcus Johansson (336:03)
2.) Conor Sheary (211:46)
3.) Evan Rodrigues (166:16)
4.) Vladimir Sobotka (160:54)

Despite playing almost entirely with a group of players that averages 36 points per-82 games combined in their careers, Skinner somehow managed to lead the Buffalo Sabres in goals per-60 minutes of ice-time at 5-on-5.

Yes, you read that right.

In the 2019-20 season at 5-on-5, Skinner had the most goals on the Sabres per-60 minutes of ice-time. More than Jack Eichel, Sam Reinhart, and Victor Olofsson.

Skinner produced with subpar help, without getting a proper amount of ice-time.

In 2019-20, Skinner averaged just 13:28 of 5-on-5 ice time per game. His lowest amount in five years.

Fast forward to the 2020-21 season, and Krueger, once again, has put Skinner in an impossible position. From the start of the season, Skinner has skated with Curtis Lazar and Riley Sheahan. Two of the worst offensive players on the team.

The difference this season is Skinner has not scored at all.

However, now is not the time to panic.

Skinner is not experiencing the career decline that Kyle Okposo has gone through, for example.

In fact, Skinner's rate of high-danger scoring chances per-60 minutes this season is actually higher than each of his first two years with the Sabres. This includes his 40-goal season back in the 2018-19 campaign.

Okposo, for comparison, is averaging a career-low 2.01 high-danger scoring chances per-60 minutes. It's a sign that goals are not going to come.

Skinner, meanwhile, is creating nearly triple the scoring chances that Okposo is, with 5.74 per-60 minutes.

Simply put, Skinner is unlucky.

If Krueger was trying to be predictive instead of reactionary, he would be playing Skinner big minutes at the top of the lineup and not sticking him in the press box.

Let's also end this narrative that Skinner doesn't help the Sabres if he's not scoring.

Skinner ranks first on the Sabres per-60 minutes in penalties drawn, takeaways, rebounds created, and he has the third-most blocked shots among forwards.

The shot block total is definitely a fluke, if looking at the rest of Skinner's career, but the other categories are constants in his game.

Getting the most out of Skinner is critical for whoever the Sabres head coach is in the future. He is under contract through 2027 at $9 million per-year. Like it or not, Skinner is here and isn't going anywhere.

It is vital for the head coach to find a way to make it work. Krueger should be doing everything in his power to get Skinner scoring.

So far, Krueger's way of getting the most out of Skinner is to keep him far away from the Sabres' other top offensive players, and then punish him when he doesn't score with a guy who was signed to a PTO (professional tryout) a month ago.

The solution is sitting there right in front of Krueger. It's the only thing he hasn't tried with Skinner since he walked through the door as the head coach in Buffalo - Giving Skinner extended playing time with, at least, one of the top forwards at driving offensive play. That's Eichel, Reinhart and/or Taylor Hall. -
https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/jeff-skinner-is-not-underperforming-he-is-underutilized
Mar. 1, 2021 at 1:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Jeff Skinner is what he is - an offensive finisher, reliant on others to create opportunities for him.

Skinner has always been that player, and will always be that player.

In 59 games last season, plus 14 games this season, Skinner has just 14 goals. That comes after a 40-goal season that earned him an eight-year contract worth $9 million annually.

It is too simplistic and shortsighted to just look at the goal totals and declare that Skinner is not performing. I would argue that Skinner is overachieving, given the impossible situation Ralph Krueger has put him in.

In the 2019-20 season, Skinner's most common linemates were not an impressive group of offensive creators:

1.) Marcus Johansson (336:03)
2.) Conor Sheary (211:46)
3.) Evan Rodrigues (166:16)
4.) Vladimir Sobotka (160:54)

Despite playing almost entirely with a group of players that averages 36 points per-82 games combined in their careers, Skinner somehow managed to lead the Buffalo Sabres in goals per-60 minutes of ice-time at 5-on-5.

Yes, you read that right.

In the 2019-20 season at 5-on-5, Skinner had the most goals on the Sabres per-60 minutes of ice-time. More than Jack Eichel, Sam Reinhart, and Victor Olofsson.

Skinner produced with subpar help, without getting a proper amount of ice-time.

In 2019-20, Skinner averaged just 13:28 of 5-on-5 ice time per game. His lowest amount in five years.

Fast forward to the 2020-21 season, and Krueger, once again, has put Skinner in an impossible position. From the start of the season, Skinner has skated with Curtis Lazar and Riley Sheahan. Two of the worst offensive players on the team.

The difference this season is Skinner has not scored at all.

However, now is not the time to panic.

Skinner is not experiencing the career decline that Kyle Okposo has gone through, for example.

In fact, Skinner's rate of high-danger scoring chances per-60 minutes this season is actually higher than each of his first two years with the Sabres. This includes his 40-goal season back in the 2018-19 campaign.

Okposo, for comparison, is averaging a career-low 2.01 high-danger scoring chances per-60 minutes. It's a sign that goals are not going to come.

Skinner, meanwhile, is creating nearly triple the scoring chances that Okposo is, with 5.74 per-60 minutes.

Simply put, Skinner is unlucky.

If Krueger was trying to be predictive instead of reactionary, he would be playing Skinner big minutes at the top of the lineup and not sticking him in the press box.

Let's also end this narrative that Skinner doesn't help the Sabres if he's not scoring.

Skinner ranks first on the Sabres per-60 minutes in penalties drawn, takeaways, rebounds created, and he has the third-most blocked shots among forwards.

The shot block total is definitely a fluke, if looking at the rest of Skinner's career, but the other categories are constants in his game.

Getting the most out of Skinner is critical for whoever the Sabres head coach is in the future. He is under contract through 2027 at $9 million per-year. Like it or not, Skinner is here and isn't going anywhere.

It is vital for the head coach to find a way to make it work. Krueger should be doing everything in his power to get Skinner scoring.

So far, Krueger's way of getting the most out of Skinner is to keep him far away from the Sabres' other top offensive players, and then punish him when he doesn't score with a guy who was signed to a PTO (professional tryout) a month ago.

The solution is sitting there right in front of Krueger. It's the only thing he hasn't tried with Skinner since he walked through the door as the head coach in Buffalo - Giving Skinner extended playing time with, at least, one of the top forwards at driving offensive play. That's Eichel, Reinhart and/or Taylor Hall. -
https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/jeff-skinner-is-not-underperforming-he-is-underutilized



What is your point? Wild, or any other team aren't taking on that contract much less thinking wild will trade their #1d in Suter, Lockerroom Leader ,& shutdown player in Foligno for skinner, & his contract.


Wild will/ are going to struggle to find room for matt body, probably why greenway will be exposed.

My point, wild already have like a zillion wingers, & don't need/ want jeff skinner, & his terrible contract. Buffalo is struck with his contract
Mar. 1, 2021 at 2:29 a.m.
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Its amusing how tough nosed grit players are getting harder to find and a rarer commodity with all these soft newer gen snowflake players. Tough guys used to be a dime-a-dozen, sad times
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