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Created by: Silkysmooth42

Team: 2020-21 Boston Bruins

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 1, 2021

Published: Mar. 1, 2021

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IMPORTANT TO READ:
this is based on an excellent idea from nalzugaray12 and if you need to better understand it, go read his post.
To recap it QUICKLY:
Buffalo most likely wont trade Eichel within the division, and bruins dont have any top tier prospects so they likely arent the target. HOWEVER if they ARE a possible target, here are the important points:
1. PASTA and MCAVOY are totally untouchable, and while he didnt say it, I think its important to note that they are nearly worth as much as Eichel as is so anyone saying "it starts with Pasta and a 1st" is totally wrong lmao
2. Eichel wanted out before the season, and if he continues to want out and struggle, his value will just keep getting lower and lower. Nobody needs to "overpay" to get him, quite the opposite actually (thats just facts lol)
Its pretty easy and obvious, so no calling me (or others) homers or anything dumb like that :)

I wrote a description for the trade, but then I refreshed and it disappeared so all you need to know is that it meets the Value correctly (fact), but its not a big quality piece like a Kakko or something, LIKE I SAID (so its not gonna happen, but if bruins WERE to be the team, this trade would be most accurate)
THESE ARE FULLY HEALTHY LINES (without Miller cuz he is a mess, but we love him lol)

Trades

BOS

Eichel, Jack

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This is it! Thats what they get. Again, bruins are not gonna be the target because they cant offer quality rn (a top tier prospect), but this trade clearly is worth the correct value!

BUF

Beecher, John [Reserve List]
DeBrusk, Jake
Kase, Ondrej
Studnicka, Jack
Zboril, Jakub
2021 1st round pick (BOS)

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two top 6 Center Prospects.
A two 6 forward with room to grow
a top 6 forward with injury problems that could excel given a new location

BOS

2021 6th round pick (ANA)

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As he continues to prove, he is not a cap dump.

ANA

Moore, John

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ANY TEAM

Retained Salary Transactions

David Backes: $1,500,000 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$80,486,481	$964,222	$2,725,000	$1,013,519

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW NMC UFA - 5	Bergeron, Patrice $6,875,000$6,875,000 C M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Pastrnak, David $6,666,667$6,666,667 RW UFA - 3
Ritchie, Nick $1,498,925$1,498,925 LW UFA - 1	Krejci, David $7,250,000$7,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 6
Frederic, Trent $925,000$925,000 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 1		Smith, Craig $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW UFA - 3
Bjork, Anders $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Coyle, Charlie $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6	Wagner, Chris $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW, C UFA - 3
	Kuraly, Sean $1,275,000$1,275,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lauzon, Jérémy $850,000$850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	McAvoy, Charlie $4,900,000$4,900,000 RD UFA - 2	Rask, Tuukka $7,000,000$7,000,000 G UFA - 1
Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 4	Carlo, Brandon $2,850,000$2,850,000 RD UFA - 1	Halák, Jaroslav $2,250,000$2,250,000 ($1,250,000$1M) G UFA - 1
Vaakanainen, Urho $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Clifton, Connor $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Tinordi, Jarred $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1	Miller, Kevan $1,250,000$1,250,000 ($750,000$750K) RD UFA - 1
Kuhlman, Karson $725,000$725,000 RW UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
McKegg, Greg $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW UFA - 1
Kampfer, Steven $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1
Booth, Callum $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1
Carey, Paul $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Blidh, Anton $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1

Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.

wojme

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Where are the top six center prospects exactly?

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.

SalamiCheese

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Sabres decline

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.

Steve_321

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sorry my man. not a snowball's chance in hell this will happen.

realistic deals for eichel look like: zegras ++, byfield ++

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:35 p.m.

Sabres_Insider

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this does interest me as a sabres fan, but i think buffalo will need to be blown away by boston to trade eichel within the division and i think LA, NYR, ANA, and MTL could offer better packages

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.

Mediumyeet

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I think Buffalo is going to need at least one top prospect in an Eichel deal. A bunch of middle 6 prospects/players won’t get it done.

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.

Silkysmooth42

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Quoting: wojme

Where are the top six center prospects exactly?

Learn hockey lol

Quoting: SalamiCheese

Sabres decline

On pieces yes, on value no. Like i said

Quoting: Steve_321

sorry my man. not a snowball's chance in hell this will happen.

realistic deals for eichel look like: zegras ++, byfield ++

Literally exactly what I said.

Quoting: Sabres_Insider

this does interest me as a sabres fan, but i think buffalo will need to be blown away by boston to trade eichel within the division and i think LA, NYR, ANA, and MTL could offer better packages

Agreed. As I said

Mar. 1, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

I think Buffalo is going to need at least one top prospect in an Eichel deal. A bunch of middle 6 prospects/players won’t get it done.

Like I said, damn shame bruins dont have one

Mar. 1, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.

mhockey91

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Why even bother making an eichal trade if you know it’s no good? The only pieces Boston has that BUF would be interested in would be McAvoy and Pasta, and they are untouchable. There is absolutely no trade here to be made

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.

kscoop

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These replies man. You know someone is clueless about hockey when they don’t consider Studnicka a top prospect. I don’t know about the value of this particular trade but Studnicka is every bit a top prospect.

Mar. 1, 2021 at 4:42 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Because I want people to stop doing Eichel for Pasta, a 1st, and Studnicka. or McAvoy, a 1st, and Vaakanainein... idc.... im just tryna shed light on what realistically COULD happen lol

Mar. 1, 2021 at 4:43 p.m.

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Quoting: kscoop

I like Studnicka and he is clearly a top 6 prospect (so i told the guy earlier to learn hockey lol), but I wouldnt even call him a "top prospect". just gotta be realistic lol

Mar. 1, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.

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Quoting: Silkysmooth42

Because I want people to stop doing Eichel for Pasta, a 1st, and Studnicka. or McAvoy, a 1st, and Vaakanainein... idc.... im just tryna shed light on what realistically COULD happen lol

I would just rule out Eichal to Boston entirely. As you said, Boston won’t trade McAvoy or Pasta, but Boston also doesn’t have a blue chip tradeable young piece that some other teams have

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

I would just rule out Eichal to Boston entirely. As you said, Boston won’t trade McAvoy or Pasta, but Boston also doesn’t have a blue chip tradeable young piece that some other teams have

Believe me i said all that in my description, that was the point of this post was to say its NOT gonna happen, but if it does, this is the most likely trade (considering they arent moving Pasta, McAvoy, Carlo, and they dont have a top teir prospect.

Mar. 1, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.

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Quoting: kscoop

Studnicka is a good prospect. Middle 6 top out. A top prospect has first line potential.

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Mar. 1, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.

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Quoting: BruinsCharlies

Studnicka is a good prospect. Middle 6 top out. A top prospect has first line potential.

Yup. Thank you

Mar. 1, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: kscoop

And the homer award of the day goes to:

Mar. 1, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.

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Quoting: BruinsCharlies

Studnicka is a good prospect. Middle 6 top out. A top prospect has first line potential.

Quoting: mhockey91

Yup. Thank you

Jack Studnicka is and has always been a top 6 prospect. John Beecher is and has always been a top 6 prospect. These arent made up

Quoting: mhockey91

And the homer award of the day goes to:

Notice MY OWN COMMENT SAYING: "but I wouldnt even call him a "top prospect". just gotta be realistic lol"
Call him a homer if you want to, i guess i agree.
but by no means do you have the right to, or the logical basis to, call me a homer or say im wrong. Im simply not lol

If you dont want to listen / learn thats on you and I cant change that. But i Know, and all rational people know, that this is a good trade

Mar. 1, 2021 at 9:28 p.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: Silkysmooth42

Jack Studnicka is and has always been a top 6 prospect. John Beecher is and has always been a top 6 prospect. These arent made up

Notice MY OWN COMMENT SAYING: "but I wouldnt even call him a "top prospect". just gotta be realistic lol"
Call him a homer if you want to, i guess i agree.
but by no means do you have the right to, or the logical basis to, call me a homer or say im wrong. Im simply not lol

If you dont want to listen / learn thats on you and I cant change that. But i Know, and all rational people know, that this is a good trade

I never said you were a homer. I think Studnika could pencil in as a 2C in the NHL level. Good player, but not a “blue chip
Prospect”

As for the trade, like everyone else has said extensively, quantity does not equal quality.

You don’t get Eichal without moving a legitimate blue chip prospect / young player. Boston does not have that. There is zero trade to be made, especially since they are divisional teams.

Mar. 1, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Who told you that they don’t have a blue chip prospect? Just curious. Scott Wheeler? If Lohrei was a 1st round pick he’d be considered a blue chip prospect. Go watch game tape of him. Look at his stats and tell me he’s not a top prospect. I’m sick of people telling me the Bruins don’t have good prospects yet the team is always top 5 in the league. I bet you didn’t think Pastrnak was a top prospect when he was drafted based on where he was picked. Lauzon although hurt now playing 1st pairing minutes. Let me guess, not a good prospect. The list goes on.

Mar. 1, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.

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kscoop

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The Sabres have all the good prospects yet they stink every year.

Mar. 2, 2021 at 7:41 a.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: kscoop

Who told you that they don’t have a blue chip prospect? Just curious. Scott Wheeler? If Lohrei was a 1st round pick he’d be considered a blue chip prospect. Go watch game tape of him. Look at his stats and tell me he’s not a top prospect. I’m sick of people telling me the Bruins don’t have good prospects yet the team is always top 5 in the league. I bet you didn’t think Pastrnak was a top prospect when he was drafted based on where he was picked. Lauzon although hurt now playing 1st pairing minutes. Let me guess, not a good prospect. The list goes on.

The Bruins don’t have any blue chip prospects lmfao. I never said they don’t have “good” prospects. I simply said they don’t have any blue chips. Bruins won the lottery with Pasta and McAvoy, getting studs in the later first round. However, those guys certainly overachieved their expectations. Lohori is not a top prospect lmfao cmon.

Mar. 2, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

Mac and Pasta were rated higher than where they were selected. They did not overachieve. Teams just screwed up by passing. Both were ranked inside the top 15 for their draft.

Mar. 2, 2021 at 11:29 a.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: Userunknown

Mac and Pasta were rated higher than where they were selected. They did not overachieve. Teams just screwed up by passing. Both were ranked inside the top 15 for their draft.

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2014/06/24/bob-mckenzies-2014-nhl-draft-rankings/

Every list had Pasta in late teens to early 30’s. He most certainly overachieved. Do some research before posting

Mar. 2, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2014/06/24/bob-mckenzies-2014-nhl-draft-rankings/

Every list had Pasta in late teens to early 30’s. He most certainly overachieved. Do some research before posting

https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2014/6/27/5846994/nhl-draft-rankings-2014-aaron-ekblad-sam-reinhart-top-60

13th here. Oops. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mar. 2, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.

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mhockey91

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Quoting: Userunknown

https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2014/6/27/5846994/nhl-draft-rankings-2014-aaron-ekblad-sam-reinhart-top-60

13th here. Oops. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Sorry but I’m taking MacKenzie, Button’s, ISS, etc... lists over SBNation

Regardless, if they did a redraft of 2014, he goes top 3, so there is no debate he overachieved.

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