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ANA and VAN - what would be the value

Created by: TheWhiteWhale
Initial Creation Date: Mar 2, 2021
Published: Mar 2 at 11:50
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Trades
NYI
  1. Edler, Alexander ($2,000,000 retained)
VAN
    NYI
    1. Lindholm, Hampus
    ANA
      Buyouts
      • Rick DiPietro: $0
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2021
      NYI
      COL
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      2022
      NYI
      NYI
      COL
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      2023
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      NYI
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      25$81,500,000$89,274,723$0$2,537,500-$7,774,723
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      NYI
      Lee, Anders
      $7,000,000
      LW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      NYI
      Barzal, Mathew
      $7,000,000
      C
      RFA - 3
      NYI
      Eberle, Jordan
      $5,500,000
      RW
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      NYI
      Beauvillier, Anthony
      $2,100,000
      LW
      RFA - 1
      NYI
      Nelson, Brock
      $6,000,000
      C, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      NYI
      Bailey, Josh
      $5,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      NYI
      Martin, Matt
      $1,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 4
      NYI
      Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
      $5,000,000
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      NYI
      Clutterbuck, Cal
      $3,500,000
      RW
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Johnston, Ross
      $1,000,000
      LW
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Cizikas, Casey
      $3,350,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      NYI
      Komarov, Leo
      $3,000,000
      RW, LW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Dal Colle, Michael
      $700,000
      LW
      RFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      NYI
      Leddy, Nick
      $5,500,000
      LD
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Pulock, Ryan
      $5,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Varlamov, Semyon
      $5,000,000
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Pelech, Adam
      $1,600,000
      LD
      RFA - 1
      NYI
      Mayfield, Scott
      $1,450,000
      RD
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Sorokin, Ilya
      $2,000,000
      G
      RFA - 1
      NYI
      Aho, Sebastian
      $725,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
      NYI
      Dobson, Noah
      $894,167
      RD
      RFA - 2
      NYI
      Schneider, Cory
      $700,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      NYI
      Greene, Andy
      $700,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Edler, Alexander
      $4,000,000
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      ANA
      Lindholm, Hampus
      $5,205,556
      LD
      UFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      NYI
      Boychuk, Johnny
      $6,000,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Taxi Squad
      NYI
      Ladd, Andrew
      $5,500,000 ($4,425,000)
      LW
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      NYI
      Hickey, Thomas
      $2,500,000 ($1,425,000)
      LD
      UFA - 2
      NYI
      Wahlstrom, Oliver
      $894,167 ($0)
      C, RW
      RFA - 3
      NYI
      Bellows, Kieffer
      $894,166 ($0)
      C, LW
      RFA - 1
      NYI
      Skarek, Jakub
      $764,167 ($0)
      G
      RFA - 3
      NYI
      Czarnik, Austin
      $725,000 ($0)
      RW, LW
      UFA - 2

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      Mar 2 at 11:53
      #1
      Wahlstrom is dad
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      Lindholm would be awesome but would probably cost too much
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      Mar 2 at 11:54
      #2
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      2nd rd pick or a young D for Edler
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      Mar 2 at 11:55
      #3
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      Lindholm is gonna need a big return. Potentially a 1st rounder + mid-tier prospect.
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      Mar 2 at 11:55
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      @ItsBlowTime maybe even late first if he is high demand
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      Mar 2 at 11:55
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      Quoting: Erik8798
      Lindholm is gonna need a big return. Potentially a 1st rounder + mid-tier prospect.


      Mid to high-tier I should say
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      Mar 2 at 12:00
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      Lindholm would start at Wahlstrom or Wilde + a 1st
      OldNYIfan liked this.
      Mar 2 at 12:07
      #7
      First NY Then LA
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      Dobson and your 2021 first or Wahlstrom. Or maybe Wahlstrom and your 2021 first.
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      Mar 2 at 12:08
      #8
      First NY Then LA
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Lindholm would start at Wahlstrom or Wilde + a 1st


      Rat b****d! Beat me to it AGAIN!!
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      Mar 2 at 12:15
      #9
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      Isles555
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      Quoting: Erik8798
      Lindholm is gonna need a big return. Potentially a 1st rounder + mid-tier prospect.


      Quoting: AndrewLadd
      Lindholm would be awesome but would probably cost too much


      Quoting: Salzy
      Lindholm would start at Wahlstrom or Wilde + a 1st


      Would say Wilde+1+Bellows get it done or more on top?
      Mar 2 at 12:15
      #10
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      Isles555
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      Quoting: PeteyForDaWin
      @ItsBlowTime maybe even late first if he is high demand


      Quoting: ItsBlowTime
      2nd rd pick or a young D for Edler


      Say like aho and a 2 or aho and a lottery protected 1 gets it done?
      Mar 2 at 12:17
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      Quoting: Isles555
      Say like aho and a 2 or aho and a lottery protected 1 gets it done?


      Yeah would say so
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      Mar 2 at 12:18
      #12
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      Quoting: Isles555
      Say like aho and a 2 or aho and a lottery protected 1 gets it done?


      as much as I'd love a lottery protected first, Edler isn't worth that. Aho and a 2nd works pretty well for both teams I think.
      Mar 2 at 12:27
      #13
      Wahlstrom is dad
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      Quoting: Isles555
      Would say Wilde+1+Bellows get it done or more on top?


      It would prob take Wahlstrom+ and I’m not comfortable doing that
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      Mar 2 at 12:36
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      Quoting: Isles555
      Would say Wilde+1+Bellows get it done or more on top?


      Quoting: AndrewLadd
      It would prob take Wahlstrom+ and I’m not comfortable doing that


      Yeah a player like Wahlstrom is almost exactly what ANA needs, he would 100% be the targeted prospect imo
      Mar 2 at 12:37
      #15
      Isles7
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      Quoting: AndrewLadd
      It would prob take Wahlstrom+ and I’m not comfortable doing that


      like ive said before, it isn't worth trading for a big name defenseman. Leddy has been playing well and there are plenty of D available that would be an upgrade over greene - shouldn't spend more than a 3rd rd pick on a rental D.
      Mar 2 at 12:38
      #16
      Wahlstrom is dad
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      Quoting: Isles777
      like ive said before, it isn't worth trading for a big name defenseman. Leddy has been playing well and there are plenty of D available that would be an upgrade over greene - shouldn't spend more than a 3rd rd pick on a rental D.


      If it were up to me I’d probably just play Aho, but if they wanted more of a stay at home guy I’m sure there’s plenty of cheap options available. But, if Lindholm is in FA in 2 years and we have the cap space, he’d be a fantastic fit
      Mar 2 at 12:39
      #17
      Wahlstrom is dad
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Yeah a player like Wahlstrom is almost exactly what ANA needs, he would 100% be the targeted prospect imo


      I’m sure he would but he’s probably untouchable tbh. He’s definitely the type of player the ducks need though. Perrault has the potential to be like that tho tbh, I’m still super high on him
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      Mar 2 at 12:42
      #18
      Isles7
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      Quoting: AndrewLadd
      If it were up to me I’d probably just play Aho, but if they wanted more of a stay at home guy I’m sure there’s plenty of cheap options available. But, if Lindholm is in FA in 2 years and we have the cap space, he’d be a fantastic fit


      Yeah Aho deserves a shot but that’s not happening. Mete,Merrill,kulikov etc..

      Lindholm is very good but he’ll be 29 by than. Well already have pelech and pulock on contracts taking them to their 30s. Need to have a good mix.

      Hopefully by the end of next season the top 4 will be :

      Pelech-Dobson
      Salo-pulock
      Mar 2 at 12:49
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      Quoting: AndrewLadd
      I’m sure he would but he’s probably untouchable tbh. He’s definitely the type of player the ducks need though. Perrault has the potential to be like that tho tbh, I’m still super high on him


      Oh and he 100% should be, Isles shouldnt be paying a premium to upgrade LD theyre fine as it is there.

      Im a huge fan of Perreault, hes looked good in the AHL this season
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      Mar 2 at 12:52
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      Quoting: Isles777
      Yeah Aho deserves a shot but that’s not happening. Mete,Merrill,kulikov etc..

      Lindholm is very good but he’ll be 29 by than. Well already have pelech and pulock on contracts taking them to their 30s. Need to have a good mix.

      Hopefully by the end of next season the top 4 will be :

      Pelech-Dobson
      Salo-pulock


      Quoting: AndrewLadd
      If it were up to me I’d probably just play Aho, but if they wanted more of a stay at home guy I’m sure there’s plenty of cheap options available. But, if Lindholm is in FA in 2 years and we have the cap space, he’d be a fantastic fit


      I’m against a big name dman too but was more curious on price and if they could get him to fit well I do think a move like Edler would benefit the team tho since aho clearly won’t be getting looks I’d cap the trades at like aho + a 2 if we’re being realistic for what they should do
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      Mar 2 at 12:58
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      Isles7
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      Quoting: Isles555
      I’m against a big name dman too but was more curious on price and if they could get him to fit well I do think a move like Edler would benefit the team tho since aho clearly won’t be getting looks I’d cap the trades at like aho + a 2 if we’re being realistic for what they should do


      We would have to get rid of a bad contract to fit Edler. Not worth it IMO.
      Mar 2 at 1:03
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      Quoting: Isles777
      We would have to get rid of a bad contract to fit Edler. Not worth it IMO.

      If they retain 2 mil they can make him fit without a move if they manipulate the cap properly (asking a lot to waive Ross I’m aware)
      Mar 2 at 1:07
      #23
      Isles7
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      Quoting: Isles555
      If they retain 2 mil they can make him fit without a move if they manipulate the cap properly (asking a lot to waive Ross I’m aware)


      Lol yeah, Lou and trotz won’t waive Ross even though there’s a 0.1 % chance he gets claimed
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      Mar 2 at 4:03
      #24
      PeterForsberg21
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      Edler won't waive that's the issue.
      Mar 2 at 4:29
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      Quoting: PeterForsberg21
      Edler won't waive that's the issue.

      Reports to the contrary from pagnotta
       
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