Ottawa easily declines. This is not even remotely close, come on. 20 games ago, Rask was considered an awful replacement level player and was being considered as a cap dump. Stepan is going to ride the IR until the season ends. He doesn't need to go anywhere.

Brown is an incredibly talented player that Ottawa has ridiculously mishandled. They say they have a plan for him though, and that doesn't include trading him away for a terrible package including a 3rd liner that's overpaid.

As Sens GM, I take that and run.

Stepan suffered a shoulder dislocation and needs surgery. His season is over.

Also, I see that we're not retaining on Stepan, which is an added bonus.

Rask is playing well on the 2nd line while Logan Brown is on the taxi squad.

If we don't have a spot for Rask on the Sens, we can always buy him out.

This is a win for Ottawa IMO.

It'd cost Minnesota more to get Brown. If Rask and Stepan had the sane term and Stepan wasn't out for the year, maybe, but that's the case so MN would have to find another way to get Brown

Stepan is from MIN and can get team care for his rehab while he stays with family and MIN eats the difference in his real salary which I have to feel is a win for Melnyk.

I’m in the bot the Brown needs the shot and MIN can give it to him. He’s played with Formenton/Batherson? In Bellevue so I think he could hang with KK and Zucc. Getting Rask’s contract off for an asset would also be a win and if Brown doesn’t pan out then we paid OTT a 3rd to eat that last year of Rask’s contract.

So what would you value him at?

On the flip side, I feel this is a bit of a loss for Minnesota for a few reasons.

Stepan's season is over. If GM BG wants Stepan, he can sign him to a team-friendly deal in the off season.

You're spending a 3rd round pick on Stepan when nobody else would except for Ottawa.

Once Stepan dislocated his shoulder, all his trade value was lost.

Rask is playing well and contributing to Minnesota's success this year.

Logan Brown can never crack the Sens lineup and is either on the taxi squad or in the AHL.

If he can't play for Ottawa, what makes you think he can play for Minnesota?

If I'm Guerin, I'm not doing this deal.

Sorry.

Just so I’m clear, you think would be a no brainer win for OTT?

I put Stepan in as a favor to everybody involved. Stepan gets team care while he gets to be with his family and OTT saves a bit of cash. Rask is not great and his contract isn’t good, I would replace with Johansson if they wanted a shorter contract.

And I’m thinking Brown is getting the shaft in OTT for whatever reason and he’s a pt per game player in the AHL and he’s played on the top line with guys like Batherson. I think there’s 2/3 C in him with PP upside. And he’s young and cost controlled, which are 2 things MIN needs. He’d be thrown in the top 9 immediately and MIN gets time to figure out if he’s for real. If he doesn’t work, then we’re down a 3rd which is not much.

My guess is that to make this trade work (if it even could) MN would have to upgrade the 3rd to a 2nd and retain 1M/25% on Rask.

Just so I’m clear, you think would be a no brainer win for OTT?

I put Stepan in as a favor to everybody involved. Stepan gets team care while he gets to be with his family and OTT saves a bit of cash. Rask is not great and his contract isn’t good, I would replace with Johansson if they wanted a shorter contract.

And I’m thinking Brown is getting the shaft in OTT for whatever reason and he’s a pt per game player in the AHL and he’s played on the top line with guys like Batherson. I think there’s 2/3 C in him with PP upside. And he’s young and cost controlled, which are 2 things MIN needs. He’d be thrown in the top 9 immediately and MIN gets time to figure out if he’s for real. If he doesn’t work, then we’re down a 3rd which is not much.

Please see my response below yours

Ottawa is not saving any cash. Rask’s salary this year is 4mil, and 4mil next year. Stepan’s salary this year is 2mil, and now that he’s on LTIR it will be even less. I’m not sure why @sensonfire is so keen to give Brown away for literally negative value when he’s still a very good prospect, but the post by @Claesson4Norris summarizes the Sens standpoint on this very nicely. If anything their point is even further justified by the fact that Stepan’s salary is not 6.5mil, it’s only 2mil, so Ottawa is actually taking on an additional 6mil in hard cash in this deal, more when you account for insurance covering part of Stepan’s salary lol. Ottawa loses in terms of value, they lose financially this year, they lose financially next year, and are saddled with a bum for longer. This is just atrocious for Ottawa. If Logan Brown gets dealt it will be for another high end prospect in a similar situation or as part of a package for a young roster player who can complement our rebuild.

That’s a perspective on the deal I hadn’t thought of. You’re looking at it as a 3rd and a player for Stepan and I’m looking at it as a 3rd for Brown. I don’t value Rask, you think differently. I think Brown is better than you do. I do think he’s expendable in OTT with Norris and Pinto so I hope MIN is in on him. Pt per game in the AHL as a 21 year old is some thing g to smog at for me.

Ottawa is not saving any cash. Rask’s salary this year is 4mil, and 4mil next year. Stepan’s salary this year is 2mil, and now that he’s on LTIR it will be even less. I’m not sure why sensonfire is so keen to give Brown away for literally negative value when he’s still a very good prospect, but the post by Claesson4Norris summarizes the Sens standpoint on this very nicely. If anything their point is even further justified by the fact that Stepan’s salary is not 6.5mil, it’s only 2mil, so Ottawa is actually taking on an additional 6mil in hard cash in this deal, more when you account for insurance covering part of Stepan’s salary lol. Ottawa loses in terms of value, they lose financially this year, they lose financially next year, and are saddled with a bum for longer. This is just atrocious for Ottawa. If Logan Brown gets dealt it will be for another high end prospect in a similar situation or as part of a package for a young roster player who can complement our rebuild.

I'm looking at it as Rask, a 3rd and the opportunity to get something of value for Stepan in exchange for Logan Brown.

Stepan is worthless, if not negative value at this point.