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Toews

Created by: Beetlejuice
Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2021
Published: Mar. 5, 2021
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Description
Assuming Toews is healthy and waives his nmc. Toews could still put up 60-70 still also playing on the top pp and pk, he'll also give leadership to NY's young core and potential wear the C for them.

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Kane (C)
Keith (A)
Murphy (A) Away
Debrincat (A) Home
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (WPG)
2.
CHI
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
3.
CHI
  1. 2021 4th round pick (ANA)
4.
CHI
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Strome, Ryan
  4. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
2021 1st is protected and NYR has the choice to either send the 2021 1st or 2022 1st
NYR
  1. Subban, Malcolm
  2. Toews, Jonathan ($1,500,000 retained)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$54,842,147$1,090,244$5,050,000$26,657,853

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,700,000$3,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$880,833$880,833
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
LD
UFA - 3
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$825,833$825,833 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 4
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$825,833$825,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
UFA - 2
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$743,333$743,333 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:13 a.m.
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EklundCelebriniSmith
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Sorry Toews does not have that kind of value - that’s

- starting goalie/ good backup
- middle 6 guy
- bottom 6 guy
- elite spec/ top 6 potential guy
- could be a really good pick (top 5 potential)
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:17 a.m.
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when is Dach coming back??
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:18 a.m.
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Quoting: NoWah49
when is Dach coming back??


Near or during the playoffs
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:19 a.m.
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exo2769
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We're not trading Toews. Let's pretend he can't be a #1C OR somehow even a #2C. He'd be that leagues single best #3C. Dominant at the dot and has always played defense. He can still go up against the other teams best players and shut them down. If he's coming back...I would want to extend him to be 100% honest here.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.
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Quoting: yikes
Sorry Toews does not have that kind of value - that’s

- starting goalie/ good backup
- middle 6 guy
- bottom 6 guy
- elite spec/ top 6 potential guy
- could be a really good pick (top 5 potential)


Agreed. If I'm the Rangers, I don't make that trade. The main piece in it is the lotto pick.

I 100% disagree on Georgiev though, who's numbers are exactly league average. Not saying that he won't someday bloom into something more, just saying that he definitely isn't what Rangers fans try to make him out to be. I'm also not super high on Kravtsov, who had an extremely hot run for 8-9 games at the start of the season in the KHL, but has done just about nothing ever since. Obviously he's 21, and the hot run definitely shows that he's got upside, but if I'm the Rags, I have zero issue trading either of these two guys. The lotto pick on the other hand, I wouldn't move unless it's for Eichel.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Agreed. If I'm the Rangers, I don't make that trade. The main piece in it is the lotto pick.

I 100% disagree on Georgiev though, who's numbers are exactly league average. Not saying that he won't someday bloom into something more, just saying that he definitely isn't what Rangers fans try to make him out to be. I'm also not super high on Kravtsov, who had an extremely hot run for 8-9 games at the start of the season in the KHL, but has done just about nothing ever since. Obviously he's 21, and the hot run definitely shows that he's got upside, but if I'm the Rags, I have zero issue trading either of these two guys. The lotto pick on the other hand, I wouldn't move unless it's for Eichel.


Well that’s what I mean - it’s all those pieces together add up to too much. Take out the first and yeah it’s more then fine.

I think Georgiev will just be good (as to why I said good starter/ backup like a 1A/1B situation works for him).

And but we still have to value Vitali more than a regular prospect right - so that why I said “elite” which is bold, but yeah I shouldn’t say elite like a Byram or elite like Kaprisov
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
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Well that’s what I mean - it’s all those pieces together add up to too much. Take out the first and yeah it’s more then fine.

I think Georgiev will just be good (as to why I said good starter/ backup like a 1A/1B situation works for him).


Hahaha, sorry, I was agreeing with you, but trailed off on an anti-Georgiev trail...
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Agreed. If I'm the Rangers, I don't make that trade. The main piece in it is the lotto pick.

I 100% disagree on Georgiev though, who's numbers are exactly league average. Not saying that he won't someday bloom into something more, just saying that he definitely isn't what Rangers fans try to make him out to be. I'm also not super high on Kravtsov, who had an extremely hot run for 8-9 games at the start of the season in the KHL, but has done just about nothing ever since. Obviously he's 21, and the hot run definitely shows that he's got upside, but if I'm the Rags, I have zero issue trading either of these two guys. The lotto pick on the other hand, I wouldn't move unless it's for Eichel.


Quoting: yikes
Well that’s what I mean - it’s all those pieces together add up to too much. Take out the first and yeah it’s more then fine.

I think Georgiev will just be good (as to why I said good starter/ backup like a 1A/1B situation works for him).

And but we still have to value Vitali more than a regular prospect right - so that why I said “elite” which is bold, but yeah I shouldn’t say elite like a Byram or elite like Kaprisov


Toews is a top 10 or top 15 defensive foward in the league, if he is the same player he could still put up 60-70 points, he's great at the dot, and will serve as a leader for Kakko, Laf, Chytil, Miller, and the other young players for NYR and potentially as their next captain. NYR is only 6 points from a playoff spot and that pick could be 10-15 in a draft that's not that deep, but if it is top 10, the Ranger's have the right to send their 2022 1st, where I'd expect them to be a playoff team especially with Toews. Kravstov and Georgiev isn't that special, Kratsov is better than most prospect but isn't going to be a top 50 player in the league. Georgiev stat's are league average and for Chicago he'll serve as their backup goalie or Chicago would do something similar what Vegas is doing rn or what Chicago did with Crawford-Lehner. Strome is only in the trade for cap reason and will be a middle six guy.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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Toews doesn’t have the value he used to only worth a 1st and that’s assuming Chicago retains 50%
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Beetlejuice
Toews is a top 10 or top 15 defensive foward in the league, if he is the same player he could still put up 60-70 points, he's great at the dot, and will serve as a leader for Kakko, Laf, Chytil, Miller, and the other young players for NYR and potentially as their next captain. NYR is only 6 points from a playoff spot and that pick could be 10-15 in a draft that's not that deep, but if it is top 10, the Ranger's have the right to send their 2022 1st, where I'd expect them to be a playoff team especially with Toews. Kravstov and Georgiev isn't that special, Kratsov is better than most prospect but isn't going to be a top 50 player in the league. Georgiev stat's are league average and for Chicago he'll serve as their backup goalie or Chicago would do something similar what Vegas is doing rn or what Chicago did with Crawford-Lehner. Strome is only in the trade for cap reason and will be a middle six guy.


Toews quite literally is not playing hockey, who knows if he ever plays again. That plus 10mil at 32 for 3 years and. He was good but his value is not that high right now. Especially when you’re selling to a rebuilding team who doesnt need to make this trade and lose 5 young assets with a couple of them being very quality
Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Toews doesn’t have the value he used to only worth a 1st and that’s assuming Chicago retains 50%


Toews is worth a lot more than a 1st and especially retained that 50%, 5 million for a Top 15 defensive forward in the league and player that could still put up 60-70 points, great at the dot and can play on the top units of the pp and pk is crazy
Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Beetlejuice
Toews is a top 10 or top 15 defensive foward in the league, if he is the same player he could still put up 60-70 points, he's great at the dot, and will serve as a leader for Kakko, Laf, Chytil, Miller, and the other young players for NYR and potentially as their next captain. NYR is only 6 points from a playoff spot and that pick could be 10-15 in a draft that's not that deep, but if it is top 10, the Ranger's have the right to send their 2022 1st, where I'd expect them to be a playoff team especially with Toews. Kravstov and Georgiev isn't that special, Kratsov is better than most prospect but isn't going to be a top 50 player in the league. Georgiev stat's are league average and for Chicago he'll serve as their backup goalie or Chicago would do something similar what Vegas is doing rn or what Chicago did with Crawford-Lehner. Strome is only in the trade for cap reason and will be a middle six guy.


Correction: Toews *Was* a top 10 or 15 defensive forward. After missing this entire season, who knows what to expect.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:09 a.m.
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Toews quite literally is not playing hockey, who knows if he ever plays again. That plus 10mil at 32 for 3 years and. He was good but his value is not that high right now. Especially when you’re selling to a rebuilding team who doesnt need to make this trade and lose 5 young assets with a couple of them being very quality


In the description I said this trade would happen assuming he is healthy and is the same player. Chicago is also retaining some salary, so at 9 million for 3 or 2 years is not bad considering what Toews can do on the ice. I could see if NY acquires Toews that won't be their only player their adding, Let's say they sign a guy like Martinez during the off-season, NY would have a great team and would be a contender for next season
Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:40 a.m.
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Why would the Rangers do that? Instead of spending 9m on Toews and trade all those players and futures. They could trade their own players for assets, keep their futures and then spend 9m on UFA.
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Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Beetlejuice
Toews is worth a lot more than a 1st and especially retained that 50%, 5 million for a Top 15 defensive forward in the league and player that could still put up 60-70 points, great at the dot and can play on the top units of the pp and pk is crazy


Quoting: Beetlejuice
Toews is worth a lot more than a 1st and especially retained that 50%, 5 million for a Top 15 defensive forward in the league and player that could still put up 60-70 points, great at the dot and can play on the top units of the pp and pk is crazy


Expect he’s regressing fast and may not be able to play again not even worth a 1st
Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Expect he’s regressing fast and may not be able to play again not even worth a 1st


I said this trade would happen if Toews is healthy but Toews isn't regressing Toews was good last season and was great during the playoffs, his stats show that he isn't regressing .
Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Beetlejuice
I said this trade would happen if Toews is healthy but Toews isn't regressing Toews was good last season and was great during the playoffs, his stats show that he isn't regressing .


Just because he was good last season doesn’t mean he isn’t regressing, he had decent defensive stats where not even close to what they used to be nor where his offensive
Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Just because he was good last season doesn’t mean he isn’t regressing, he had decent defensive stats where not even close to what they used to be nor where his offensive


How can you assume he is regressing when he hasn't played yet this season, last time he played which was only a few months ago he put up 5 g 4 a in 9 games in the playoffs, and then in 2019 he put up 81 points (career high) and in 2020 he put 60 points in 70 games. This trade would happen when he is healthy and if he is the same player, so there is no evidence he is regressing.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.
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Jonathan Toews is a franchise player. No way he gets traded unless it is a Marian Hossa type thing.
Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Beetlejuice
How can you assume he is regressing when he hasn't played yet this season, last time he played which was only a few months ago he put up 5 g 4 a in 9 games in the playoffs, and then in 2019 he put up 81 points (career high) and in 2020 he put 60 points in 70 games. This trade would happen when he is healthy and if he is the same player, so there is no evidence he is regressing.


Points don’t show your defensive play, even his offensive play went down he went from a 15 ixG to a 10
Mar. 5, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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Rangers have plenty of cap space to afford Toews. But they are on giving up the games best offensive prospect for him. Take Kravtsov out.
 
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