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Do People Overvalue Eichel

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Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2021
Published: Mar. 5, 2021
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IMO This Is A Fair Deal, Mika, Fills In The N.1 center role, Gauthier fills the young depth forward, 22 is a really big draft, and the first is a cherry on top. Kakko nor Laf should be anywhere close to being in these deals.
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    If they want Kakko or Laf We Will Just Keep Our Roster :)
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:48 a.m.
    #26
    Lets Go Blues
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    He has on a 94 point pace and got hart votes last year. This year he has a extremely low shooting percentage and is on track to win the selkie he’s definitely a top 10 center.


    My point was that arguing about whether he is in the top 1% of NHL centers or the top 1.5% of NHL centers is a useless way of justifying poor trade value.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:50 a.m.
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    Thank you everyone for making this my most viewed Post! It may be controversial but it's a debate!
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    He has on a 94 point pace and got hart votes last year. This year he has a extremely low shooting percentage and is on track to win the selkie he’s definitely a top 10 center.


    200_d.gif

    lol. No one has Eichel up for winning the Selke.
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: Byrr
    mp4


    ngl I laughed at this
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lafszn
    ngl I laughed at this


    Evolving hockey does..

    https://twitter.com/evolvingwild/status/1367539825386139650?s=21
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:55 a.m.
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Evolving hockey does..

    https://twitter.com/evolvingwild/status/1367539825386139650?s=21


    Oh I didn't mean it to see like I laughed at ur comment the gif made me laugh, Eichel can win selke but he's got beat bergy and others
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Evolving hockey does..

    https://twitter.com/evolvingwild/status/1367539825386139650?s=21


    Also Eriksson Ek
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lafszn
    Thank you everyone for making this my most viewed Post! It may be controversial but it's a debate!


    I think my mock trade value would be something like:
    Kreider, Kakko, Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, lottery-protected 1st
    and I think the Rangers still win that deal. If Kreider has trade protection, it can be anyone with cap to ballast the move and the value adjusts.
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lafszn
    Oh I didn't mean it to see like I laughed at ur comment the gif made me laugh, Eichel can win selke but he's got beat bergy and others


    Eichel can't win the Selke. It's slated as the best defensive forward but really its voted on as being the best two way forward. Eichel has sacrificed massively at one end for the other. Another almost required criteria...who was the last Selke winner who didn't penalty kill? Thinking Eichel is even in the running a pipe dream from Sabres fans.
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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    Quoting: A_K
    I think my mock trade value would be something like:
    Kreider, Kakko, Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, lottery-protected 1st
    and I think the Rangers still win that deal. If Kreider has trade protection, it can be anyone with cap to ballast the move and the value adjusts.


    I can see it happening BUF is gonna have to take a big contract like Kreids. Probably won't go through bc Kreider is Virtually the captain, nice mock.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: Byrr
    Eichel can't win the Selke. It's slated as the best defensive forward but really its voted on as being the best two way forward. Eichel has sacrificed massively at one end for the other. Another almost required criteria...who was the last Selke winner who didn't penalty kill? Thinking Eichel is even in the running a pipe dream from Sabres fans.


    Im not saying he will win, but he screams good defense this year might be a reason why he isn't scoring much.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:04 a.m.
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    Sabres easily decline
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: SalamiCheese
    Sabres easily decline


    Yeah they would, this is a mock trade.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lafszn
    PSA: This is a mock trade, it looks like I think Eichel is overrated (I don't) I just see tons of trades that put way to much for him


    I don't find your trade unreasonable. In some many these CF, folks think Sabres are going to get equal "on ice value for Eichel. Well that can't/won't happen.
    Your tradde...Buffalo has to take cap back. A 5m player who is serviceable for two year helps the Sabres immediately.
    The value in your trade is that the Sabres would then have 10m freed up cap space in 22/23 plus the two picks. Spend that 10m wisely and hopes the picks work out.

    I kinda think your type of trade is going to the one the Sabres would eventually accept.
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    I don't find your trade unreasonable. In some many these CF, folks think Sabres are going to get equal "on ice value for Eichel. Well that can't/won't happen.
    Your tradde...Buffalo has to take cap back. A 5m player who is serviceable for two year helps the Sabres immediately.
    The value in your trade is that the Sabres would then have 10m freed up cap space in 22/23 plus the two picks. Spend that 10m wisely and hopes the picks work out.


    Thank you for the feedback!
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:29 a.m.
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    Why is it crazy for Laf to be in a trade for Eichel?

    Rookie season Jack 24+32 in 81
    Rookie season Alexis 4+3 in 7

    What is crazy about asking for Lafreniere?
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:34 a.m.
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    In many instances yes but it still starts with one of Laf, Kaako, or Fox, + another good prospect + 1st
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: leafs101
    In many instances yes but it still starts with one of Laf, Kaako, or Fox, + another good prospect + 1st


    probably
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: Smithcd995
    Why is it crazy for Laf to be in a trade for Eichel?

    Rookie season Jack 24+32 in 81
    Rookie season Alexis 4+3 in 7

    What is crazy about asking for Lafreniere?


    Laf is the number 1 pick he still has time to grow he's our future never wanna give him up
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lafszn
    Mock trade, just my opinion that EIchel is overvalued


    All opinions are welcome!! that's what makes this site so awesome.
    I just think it's so hard to put value on Eichel. He's an elite young C under contract for a long time. His value should be insane on the trade market. Guys like this dont get dealt too often
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: masterjuddi
    All opinions are welcome!! that's what makes this site so awesome.
    I just think it's so hard to put value on Eichel. He's an elite young C under contract for a long time. His value should be insane on the trade market. Guys like this dont get dealt too often


    I can agree with that!
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Zib has only 1,5 years left on his deal and has arguably been pretty bad this year.

    Don't think Sabres is interested.


    Has eichel been good himself?
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    I personally think a fair trade is
    Kakko
    Chyitl
    1st
    One of lundkvist/kravstov/Schneider
    Strome (cap)


    Thats just not possible
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.
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    Jeez this is bad, eichel is worth more than kakko and laf combined, much less a couple of scrubs and 2 1st which will be late picks once eichel carry’s the rangers to the playoffs
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 11:05 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Jeez this is bad, eichel is worth more than kakko and laf combined, much less a couple of scrubs and 2 1st which will be late picks once eichel carry’s the rangers to the playoffs


    I disagree with Laf and kakko combined, Kakko problaby but Laf idk, and I wouldn't do this trade it's a mock trade
     
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