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Top 5 pick trade

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Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2021
Published: Mar. 5, 2021
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Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,750,000
8$7,500,000
3$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Acquired, Player
8$8,000,000
Trades
1.
OTT
    Trade with any team for a 1C
    What could this package return
    ANA
    1. Brännström, Erik
    2. Brown, Logan [RFA Rights]
    3. 2021 1st round pick (OTT)
    Additional Details:
    Top 5 Pick
    2.
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$69,071,925$0$3,457,500$12,428,075
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    C
    UFA - 2
    Acquired, Player
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 7
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 6
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    $749,250$749,250
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $3,600,000$3,600,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
    LW
    RFA - 1
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $925,000$925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 7
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $4,687,500$4,687,500
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $925,000$925,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 4
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    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
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    $835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
    G
    RFA - 2

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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.
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    I'll give you Johansen for it

    /s
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.
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    Au-revoir Dorion
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    if we have a top 5 pick i think we should just pick berniers/eklund/johnson
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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    I think this offer is pretty problematic, since it's too good for most of the 1Cs here, but not enough for the absolute franchise centers.

    I don't think I can think of an example to whom this offer is good for.
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    Mar. 5, 2021 at 1:53 p.m.
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    How about Filip Chytil? If Rags get Eichel, Pettersson or Barkov (without giving up Zibanejad) I could see it
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I think this offer is pretty problematic, since it's too good for most of the 1Cs here, but not enough for the absolute franchise centers.

    I don't think I can think of an example to whom this offer is good for.


    Will be interesting to see which franchise need to tighten the spending with the lack of revenue coming in. If you could get and extend someone like Hertl, it wouldn't be a bad move. I could honestly see a package being built for Eichel, but I don't think you get it done without Stuetzle involved, which is a waste. If you *could* do it, and have Sanderson, 5OA, Ridley Greig, Colin White+Something, it'd be a smart move, but again, I don't see Buffalo doing it without a high end offensive prospect coming back unfortunately.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 1:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: NYRFan92360244
    How about Filip Chytil? If Rags get Eichel, Pettersson or Barkov (without giving up Zibanejad) I could see it


    That package is too much for Chytil.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I think this offer is pretty problematic, since it's too good for most of the 1Cs here, but not enough for the absolute franchise centers.

    I don't think I can think of an example to whom this offer is good for.


    That offer isn't good enough for any youngish 1C...Brown is worth dirt, Brannstrom is nothing more than a bottom pair PP specialist, and a top 5 pick MIGHT turn into a good player
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drw4209
    That offer isn't good enough for any youngish 1C...Brown is worth dirt, Brannstrom is nothing more than a bottom pair PP specialist, and a top 5 pick MIGHT turn into a good player


    I reckon that the TOP15-20 of the centers won't be moved for an offer as such, but everyone behind that are very close.

    Brown is a bust, but Brännström is still looking very potential. Not exactly his fault if Smith doesn't like the guy. In terms of level he should easily be the 2nd pair D in Ottawa, but instead he trusts the position to players like Reilly and Wolanin, and the results are showing.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I reckon that the TOP15-20 of the centers won't be moved for an offer as such, but everyone behind that are very close.

    Brown is a bust, but Brännström is still looking very potential. Not exactly his fault if Smith doesn't like the guy. In terms of level he should easily be the 2nd pair D in Ottawa, but instead he trusts the position to players like Reilly and Wolanin, and the results are showing.


    Yeesh, probably don't follow the Sens much, eh?

    Wolanin's a trainwreck, that much is true. He's awful defensively and he hasn't done anything right offensively. Surprisingly though, Reilly is actually incredibly effective and the stats all back it up. Even more so since being placed with Zub. Some fans may want to convince you he's the whipping boy because their head's in the sand, but he's actually been good. Conversely, Brännström is poor defensively and hasn't been doing as well offensively as you'd expect from someone who should in theory be a strong puck carrier. He's electric on the powerplay though, so he's got that going for him. Drw4209 was right, Brännström at this point is nothing more than a bottom pair PP specialist, and he belongs nowhere close to Ottawa's 2nd pair. They'd be worse off because of it. People can pretend like he's good because he was the return for Mark Stone because it makes them feel better, but no. That's not the case.

    Brown is far from a bust though. You've got the players mixed up. It's not his fault that Smith doesn't like the guy. He's the one that should probably be on the 2nd line in Ottawa but won't because DJ (an assistant coach hired to do a head coach's job) wants him to play like a grinder.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Claebom
    Yeesh, probably don't follow the Sens much, eh?

    Wolanin's a trainwreck, that much is true. He's awful defensively and he hasn't done anything right offensively. Surprisingly though, Reilly is actually incredibly effective and the stats all back it up. Even more so since being placed with Zub. Some fans may want to convince you he's the whipping boy because their head's in the sand, but he's actually been good. Conversely, Brännström is poor defensively and hasn't been doing as well offensively as you'd expect from someone who should in theory be a strong puck carrier. He's electric on the powerplay though, so he's got that going for him. Drw4209 was right, Brännström at this point is nothing more than a bottom pair PP specialist, and he belongs nowhere close to Ottawa's 2nd pair. They'd be worse off because of it. People can pretend like he's good because he was the return for Mark Stone because it makes them feel better, but no. That's not the case.

    Brown is far from a bust though. You've got the players mixed up. It's not his fault that Smith doesn't like the guy. He's the one that should probably be on the 2nd line in Ottawa but won't because DJ (an assistant coach hired to do a head coach's job) wants him to play like a grinder.


    I don't follow the Sens that much, but from a simple logical deduction of Brown being a 23 year old prospect still not being able to break into one of the weakest rosters in league kinda tells me he's a bust. And it's kinda followed by Sens fans constantly trading him here.

    Reilly has been comparably impressive this year, but according to the statistics this site here has shown me, Brännström's at least as good as him, and points wise more effective. I dunno whether they're used in different roles but the OTT fans seem to be pissed with how Smith is treating Brännström, more than actually agreeing with the guy of his decision.

    I'm not that great of a judge on their play as I don't have all the facts, so I'm gonna go with what the majority in here have claimed, or by a simple logical deduction.
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.
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    Hextall takes that deal and says thanks!
    Mar. 5, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    I don't follow the Sens that much, but from a simple logical deduction of Brown being a 23 year old prospect still not being able to break into one of the weakest rosters in league kinda tells me he's a bust. And it's kinda followed by Sens fans constantly trading him here.

    Reilly has been comparably impressive this year, but according to the statistics this site here has shown me, Brännström's at least as good as him, and points wise more effective. I dunno whether they're used in different roles but the OTT fans seem to be pissed with how Smith is treating Brännström, more than actually agreeing with the guy of his decision.

    I'm not that great of a judge on their play as I don't have all the facts, so I'm gonna go with what the majority in here have claimed, or by a simple logical deduction.


    Sens fans trade him a lot here because the organization has turned their back on him and as a result, he seems like the odd one out. The local media clown, Bruce Garrioch, attempts to throw assassination attempts at the youth of the team every game to see what sticks. The current circus is Logan Brown trade rumours. That doesn't make him a bust; most of us are terrified to watch any inevitable trade because he will almost certainly do better on whichever team he ends up on. He's ready for the roster, has comparable if not superior numbers to Norris, and yet he hasn't been afforded the same opportunity or a leash as long. It has less to do with his growth as a player and more to do with the stunting of his development and their failure to give him his earned opportunity. It's a huge debate in the fanbase and a hotly contested argument that the GM intentionally avoids and has remained secretive on. Their most recent public comment is that they "have a plan" for Brown but they won't share what it is. DJ Smith says he wants for him to play a stronger 5v5 game (while we were playing Batherson and Norris, who began the season with 1 and 2 even strength points in 16 GP respectively) and hopes that he changes his style of play in order to make it onto the roster. The same was seen with Colin White to begin the season, who has now become more of a grinder as the season has gone on.

    Not sure which stats you've seen. Mike Reilly's isolated impact from hockeyviz has him at +16% relative to the league on even strength offense, and 0% on even strength defense. Ottawa's offense is 2.79 xGF/60 with Reilly (+11%), 2.45 without (-3%). Their defense is 2.19 xGA/60 with (-13%), 2.73 without (+9%). Conversely, Brännström is -4% relative to the league on offense, and is -1% on defense. With sheltered minutes, Ottawa's offense is 1.87 xGF/60 with Erik (-26%), 2.63 without (+5%). Their defense is 2.46 xGA/60 with (-2%) and 2.59 without (+3). Brännström's 5v5 CF is 52%, his xGF is 43% and his ixG is 0.38 while looking at a 59% oZS%. Reilly's 5v5 CF is 53%, his xGF is 54% and ixG is 0.84 while having 47% oZS%. To help line it all up:

    Reilly: +16% isolated xGF/60, -0% isolated xGA/60. +11% team xGF/60, -13% team xGA/60. 53% CF, 54% xGF, 0.84 ixG, 47% oZS%.
    Bränn: -4% isolated xGF/60, -1% isolated xGA/60. -26% team xGF/60, -2% team xGA/60. 52% CF, 43% xGF, 0.38 ixG, 59% oZS%.

    This indicates that Reilly is absolutely blowing Brännström out of the water offensively, while remaining similar defensively (despite Reilly playing much heavier defensive minutes). Brännström has not been at least as good as him. Sens fans are upset with Smith because there were rumours that DJ simply doesn't like Bränn, and because Sens fans want the entire roster to be under the age of 25. They labeled Reilly as public enemy number 1 from the very start and decided that he needed to go, not realizing that he's actually been pretty good. Additionally, it's less of a Reilly vs Brännström battle and more of a Coburn vs Brännström battle, as Coburn was the one who got games while Erik was scratched.
     
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